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On 1/7/2010 10:34 PM, Stewart wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... I know just what you mean. I really, really, really object to being dictated to about what I am allowed to have... grrrrrrrrrrrrr We ARE the customers here!!! So you think that by using the built-in mail client that MS decided to include that you are NOT being dictated to? Sheeeesh - I wouldn't want to know when you ARE being dictated to! The whole point of NOT having an email client in Windows 7 is PERSONAL CHOICE!!!!!!! There are at LEAST half a dozen free email clients out there that YOU can choose from - or are you SO used to accepting blindly what MS provides that you are incapable of making any choices any more? There was nothing wrong with OE. They could have just left it alone, and we would have had better choices. Oh but there are things that are wrong with OE. For example: Outlook Express does not correctly handle MIME, and will not display the body of signed messages inline. Users get a blank e-mail and two attachments (one of the message text and one of the signature) and therefore need to open an attachment to see the e-mail. If the email has been forwarded several times, users need to open attached email messages one inside the other multiple times till they reach the parent e-mail message. This bug has still not been rectified. The proper behavior is described in RFC1847. This defect was carried forward to Windows Mail, and is still present in Windows Live Mail. Also canceling sending an email while it is being sent does not effectively prevent it from being sent. Also, when importing .PST files, cancelling the import while it is in progress merely cancels the import of the current folder and the import resumes with the next folder. -- Roy Smith Windows 7 Timestamp: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:10:51 PM |
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"Gordon" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... ... and it was OUR choice. So I bet you didn't TRY anything else - you just blindly went with whatever MS decided to give you - just like most people blindly use IE and don't try any other browser... Quite the contrary...I have tried a few others, and OE worked best for me. I also use Chrome and Firefox, IE only if I have to. |
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"SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... ... and it was OUR choice. So I bet you didn't TRY anything else - you just blindly went with whatever MS decided to give you - just like most people blindly use IE and don't try any other browser... I don't see it as "blindly using" or being "dictated to" when an OS contains certain accessories. The people (like you and I and many others) who WANT to try other things, or feel the urge to experiment, or are always looking for a better and easier way to do something will always continue on the way we are- try it, don't like it, discard it; try it, like it, keep it; try it, like it, maybe discard first "like it". I can't count how many mail clients, news clients, mail and news clients, and browsers I've tried over the decades. But I generally (but not always) end up using a MS product mostly because I like the feel of it and it plays nicely with my OS. Windows started bundling email clients and browsers with their OS's because of ease of use and the attractiveness of having all that together in one package (kind of like the Office suites). The average Joe ate it up and bought it up, so they continued. Toward the later days of XP and into Vista, there were so many other tried and true choices, I think they just decided not waste the valuable resources of programming and implementation by including it in Windows 7. I would have to disagree to some of that, as they did take the resources for the WLM interface and offer it for free DL and integrates into their hotmail service (which competes with Google). I'm kinda surprised they didn't include the most basic of browser with it and leave the choice of a full blown one to the users. I've always felt that their time and resources would have been better spent on the OS itself without the fluff, but hey, I don't work for them, I just buy from them. I think their premise is the same as most everyone else now- "If you don't like what we offer, get something else and see where you are." And people are trying those other things. Are the "other things" going to dethrone MS? Maybe someday, but probably not any time real soon. Are some people going to continue to try other things? You betcha, until this country and the rest of the world succumbs to sloth and loses its drive to experiment. So whether or not an OS comes with an email client, or a browser, or even a calculator, that doesn't mean something else can't be tried. And if the owner/user of that OS decides not to use a different email client, or browser, or even a calculator, that doesn't necessarily mean they are blindly following the MS road. That just means they didn't like the alternatives, or they didn't feel it necessary to try an alternative. Just my HAWO :-) -- SC Tom |
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"Roy Smith" wrote in message ... On 1/7/2010 10:34 PM, Stewart wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... I know just what you mean. I really, really, really object to being dictated to about what I am allowed to have... grrrrrrrrrrrrr We ARE the customers here!!! So you think that by using the built-in mail client that MS decided to include that you are NOT being dictated to? Sheeeesh - I wouldn't want to know when you ARE being dictated to! The whole point of NOT having an email client in Windows 7 is PERSONAL CHOICE!!!!!!! There are at LEAST half a dozen free email clients out there that YOU can choose from - or are you SO used to accepting blindly what MS provides that you are incapable of making any choices any more? There was nothing wrong with OE. They could have just left it alone, and we would have had better choices. Oh but there are things that are wrong with OE. For example: Outlook Express does not correctly handle MIME, and will not display the body of signed messages inline. Users get a blank e-mail and two attachments (one of the message text and one of the signature) and therefore need to open an attachment to see the e-mail. If the email has been forwarded several times, users need to open attached email messages one inside the other multiple times till they reach the parent message. This bug has still not been rectified. The proper behavior is described in RFC1847. This defect was carried forward to Windows Mail, and is still present in Windows Live Mail. Also canceling sending an email while it is being sent does not effectively prevent it from being sent. Also, when importing .PST files, cancelling the import while it is in progress merely cancels the import of the current folder and the import resumes with the next folder. -- Roy Smith Windows 7 Timestamp: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:10:51 PM Let me rephrase....there was nothing wrong with OE for me. Of course, I'm sure that some people were affected by these issues, but since they carried it forward they have done no better when they had the opportunity. |
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