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My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make the samemistake again!)



 
 
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Old December 19th 15, 01:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make thesame mistake again!)

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On 2015-12-18 5:03 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 15/12/2015 12:34 PM, Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the
same mistake again!).

Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which
turned out to not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to
play (and Target wouldn't even take the games back).

So I don't want to make both those mistakes again.

This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd
like to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't
apparently work on his playstation 3 we bought him a few years
ago.

What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play
such games?


The biggest mistake you're going to make this time is to get a
laptop. Laptops aren't great for gaming, you should get him a
desktop with a high-end graphics card. Fallout 4's recommended
system requirements are ridiculous, you basically need to buy the
highest of all components, and there's no laptop in existence
that'll fill that bill, even the gaming laptops.

Fallout 4 system requirements | Can I Run Fallout 4
http://systemrequirementslab.com/cyr...ut-4/12905/?p=

a



Yousuf Khan

I _finished_ Fallout 4 on my gaming laptop. It is a MSI GT72 Q2Q
laptop that cost around $2k with a 970M GPU and a Core i7-4710HQ
processor. I ran Fallout 4 at ultra settings with 60FPS throughout.

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Old December 19th 15, 03:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 00:07:47 +0000, jbm wrote:

* Most importantly, he might start to enjoy himself!!!


That's not an argument; I'm pretty sure he'll enjoy himself playing that
game. I know I would!

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Old December 19th 15, 05:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:10:41 -0000 (UTC), Oscar
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:34:37 +0000, Oscar wrote:

What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games?


Thank you for all the advice!

Based on my read of *all* the wonderful input, can you correct my
summary "shopping list" below so that I can print it and bring it
with me to the computer store?

0. Game requirements:
Fallout4: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/fallout-4-ps4/
http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-sys...nts-released/#

1. Available consoles:
XBox One (~$300 to $400 depending on accessories)
Playstation 4 (~$300 to $400 depending on accessories)

What accessories do you recommend?

2. Minimum desktop (not laptop):
a. Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
b. Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz
c. 8 GB RAM
d. NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB or AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB

3. Recommended desktop (not laptop):
a. Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
b. Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz or AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz
c. 8 GB RAM
d. NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB or AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB

4. More than enough desktop:
A. Windows 7 and above (64-bit)
B. Intel i3 6300T
C. 8 GB RAM
D. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB or AMD ATI Radeon HD 7850 2GB
E. DirectX 11.0 Compatible video card or equivalent

5. Even better than enough desktop:
A. Windows 10 (64-bit)
B. Intel i5 6600
C. 16GB RAM
D. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB or AMD Radeon R9 290 4GB
E. DirectX 11.1 Compatible video card

How do I know if a video card is "directx" compatible?


The specs on the card will tell you which DirectX level it meets. Most
current is 12.

Go to a local computer builder and ask for price and extended warranty
for a desktop midtower that meets your specs:

Midtower case w/500+w PS,
Extra fans to cool the stuff inside the case,
Intel i7 CPU+heatsink and fan to play the game,
Current chipset mb to handle everything,
Video card to run the game properly (DX12),
16 or 32 GB memory (memory is cheap),
SSD for bootup and gaming,
4TB HDD for various data storage,
Win10,
MSE for antivirus, etc--it's free with Win10 and is decent,
Let the kid pick keyboard and mouse.

Get price of extended warranty (3-5 yrs) on the box.
Make sure the kid understands what that warranty means (what is
covered, what is not, service on-site or "bring it in", etc).

You ARE making an investment. Do it right.
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Old December 25th 15, 10:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make thesame mistake again!)

On 12/18/2015 5:03 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 15/12/2015 12:34 PM, Oscar wrote:
My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (and don't want to make the
same mistake again!).

Long ago, I bought a different grandchild a computer, which turned out to
not be able to run Call of Duty games he wanted to play (and Target
wouldn't even take the games back).

So I don't want to make both those mistakes again.

This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like
to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on
his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago.

What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games?


The biggest mistake you're going to make this time is to get a laptop.
Laptops aren't great for gaming, you should get him a desktop with a
high-end graphics card. Fallout 4's recommended system requirements are
ridiculous, you basically need to buy the highest of all components, and
there's no laptop in existence that'll fill that bill, even the gaming
laptops.

Fallout 4 system requirements | Can I Run Fallout 4
http://systemrequirementslab.com/cyr...t-4/12905/?p=a

Yousuf Khan

I second the opinion!

Although there are laptops sold as games machines, they generally do not
come close to a desktop game machine in performance.

The most noticeable difference is two to three times the price of the a
a desktop of about the same speed.

Next, don't expect to get an "off the shelf" desktop from the typical
store front retail sources that is really a games machine.

The "game machine" laptop has about twice the weight of the same size
general purpose laptop. The Laptop processor is slower, in order to
conserve power. Laptop video systems are faster than they used to be,
but still don't have the speed and dedicated memory of the high end
desktop video cards.
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Old December 27th 15, 06:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default My grandkid wants a "gaming" computer (don't want to make the same mistake again!)

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 message , Tue,
15 Dec 2015 17:34:37, Oscar posted:


This time, I asked what games he wants to play, and he said he'd like
to play something called "fallout 4" which doesn't apparently work on
his playstation 3 we bought him a few years ago.

What do I need to look for in a Windows laptop that will play such games?


You bought him a playstation 3 "a few years ago"; therefore, he should
by now have some idea of the value of money and the need to make
important decisions carefully. If he does not, he needs relevant
education within the family.

Don't _buy_ him a "gaming" computer. Make sure he has what little
equipment he really needs for school work and other useful applications.

Then let him earn the necessary money and decide what to do with it. If
he is old enough, let him get proper paid work outside the family. If
he is still really a child, let him do regular "work" within the family,
"earnings" paid into a savings account that he cannot himself withdraw
from. Put gifts into the account on suitable occasions, if deserved.

When he has enough money in the account, let him choose (with technical
guidance) what he wants to get; and, when ready, let him buy or order it
with an ancestor/uncle/aunt. By then, of course, he may want something
else entirely.


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