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Old December 30th 15, 01:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
g.bon2
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

Hi,
for few days, my laptop doesn"t sleep as in the pass.
When I want it to sleep, it completely shutdown.
When I'm restarting it, I have to start new session and all aplications
have been shut down.
Down know what settings have changed and how to correct this.
It"s the same behaviour when I'm using the power button, when the
computer go and sleep himself (spelling settings) and when I'm using
sleep option in the power Windows menu (exactly the same as power off).
Is there any setting to change ?
Thanks,
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Old December 30th 15, 05:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

g.bon2 wrote:
Hi,
for few days, my laptop doesn"t sleep as in the pass.
When I want it to sleep, it completely shutdown.
When I'm restarting it, I have to start new session and all aplications
have been shut down.
Down know what settings have changed and how to correct this.
It"s the same behaviour when I'm using the power button, when the
computer go and sleep himself (spelling settings) and when I'm using
sleep option in the power Windows menu (exactly the same as power off).
Is there any setting to change ?
Thanks,


Are you using the power button ?

Have you checked the binding of the power
button, to see what it activates ?

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...-to-shut-down/

That page is for Vista/Win7, but Windows 10 should be similar.

Paul
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Old December 30th 15, 06:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
g.bon2
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

Are you using the power button ?
Yes and no...
The computer completely shut down :
- with power button (that is currently set to sleep)
- but also with sleep option in windows menu
- when computer go to sleep (as power save / screen saver)

Have you checked the binding of the power
button, to see what it activates ?

It's avtivated as sleeping and not power off

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...-to-shut-down/

All my setting were corrects.
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Old December 30th 15, 06:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
g.bon2
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

In addition, after several tests.
All manners for go on sleeping mode or hibernate mode are producing the
same things : a full shutdown.
I can't find where to change this behaviour.
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Old December 30th 15, 10:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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g.bon2 wrote:
In addition, after several tests.
All manners for go on sleeping mode or hibernate mode are producing the
same things : a full shutdown.
I can't find where to change this behaviour.


At one time, the dumppo utility would be used for
working on these ACPI issues. I don't think dumppo works any
more. Instead, you can try powercfg.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...ercfg-command/

If you cannot see the figures in the article, try here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140724...wercfg-command

Here, powercfg is used to remove "blocks" preventing sleep,
which is not your problem. Still, it illustrates the
depth of problems with ACPI and hardware.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...w8itprogeneral

*******

A possible hardware reason, would be something to do with battery
status, but that's just a guess. And would not explain
a refusal to hibernate, which is not dependent on the
laptop battery in order to work.

Paul

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Old December 30th 15, 11:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

On 12/30/2015 8:02 AM, g.bon2 wrote:
Hi,
for few days, my laptop doesn"t sleep as in the pass.
When I want it to sleep, it completely shutdown.
When I'm restarting it, I have to start new session and all aplications
have been shut down.


Does your computer hardware support a sleep state?

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Old December 30th 15, 02:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
g.bon2
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

Does your computer hardware support a sleep state?
Yes, it worked until a few weeks ago.
I've didn't changed anything in bios settings.
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Old December 30th 15, 03:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Spalls Hurgenson
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:02:38 +0100, g.bon2 wrote:

Hi,
for few days, my laptop doesn"t sleep as in the pass.
When I want it to sleep, it completely shutdown.
When I'm restarting it, I have to start new session and all aplications
have been shut down.
Down know what settings have changed and how to correct this.
It"s the same behaviour when I'm using the power button, when the
computer go and sleep himself (spelling settings) and when I'm using
sleep option in the power Windows menu (exactly the same as power off).
Is there any setting to change ?
Thanks,


Even when you "shutdown" Windows 8/10, it doesn't really do a clean
shutdown; it goes into a hybrid hibernation state so it boots faster
the next time you start it up.

To fully shutdown Windows, create a shortcut to:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32.EXE /s /t 0

Then double-click the icon.

This will force Windows to shut-down "old school" (very useful if
tinkering with hardware or other operating systems). Your next boot
will take longer than usual though.

I am unaware of anyway to force Windows to use this shutdown method
when you use the normal procedures.



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Old December 30th 15, 03:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Nomen Nescio
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

In article
g.bon2 wrote:

Does your computer hardware support a sleep state?

Yes, it worked until a few weeks ago.
I've didn't changed anything in bios settings.


Do you have a sleep option through the start button?

I ask this because a Win10 upgrade disabled my video card driver
and replaced it with a MSFT video driver which didn't support sleep.

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Old December 30th 15, 03:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2015-12-30 5:09 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 12/30/2015 8:02 AM, g.bon2 wrote:
Hi, for few days, my laptop doesn"t sleep as in the pass. When I
want it to sleep, it completely shutdown. When I'm restarting it,
I have to start new session and all aplications have been shut
down.


Does your computer hardware support a sleep state?


It must have since he indicated that the "laptop doesn't sleep as in
the past." I'm pointing the finger at a BIOS setting myself.


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Old December 30th 15, 04:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2015-12-30 8:31 AM, g.bon2 wrote:
Does your computer hardware support a sleep state?

Yes, it worked until a few weeks ago. I've didn't changed anything
in bios settings.


If you are using Windows 10, I will assume that the drivers your
system uses have been updated without your consent. Yes, Windows 10
does that.

I would recommend getting a utility like SlimDrivers and seeing
whether there are drivers for you to update. Windows 10 generally
updates to something which it considers to be most compatible but not
necessarily the latest drivers. SlimDrivers looks for the latest which
can solve the problem.

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Old December 30th 15, 04:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 09:15:49 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:02:38 +0100, g.bon2 wrote:

Hi,
for few days, my laptop doesn"t sleep as in the pass.
When I want it to sleep, it completely shutdown.
When I'm restarting it, I have to start new session and all aplications
have been shut down.
Down know what settings have changed and how to correct this.
It"s the same behaviour when I'm using the power button, when the
computer go and sleep himself (spelling settings) and when I'm using
sleep option in the power Windows menu (exactly the same as power off).
Is there any setting to change ?
Thanks,


Even when you "shutdown" Windows 8/10, it doesn't really do a clean
shutdown; it goes into a hybrid hibernation state so it boots faster
the next time you start it up.

To fully shutdown Windows, create a shortcut to:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32.EXE /s /t 0



That looks suspiciously like C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0


Then double-click the icon.

This will force Windows to shut-down "old school" (very useful if
tinkering with hardware or other operating systems). Your next boot
will take longer than usual though.

I am unaware of anyway to force Windows to use this shutdown method
when you use the normal procedures.



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Old December 30th 15, 04:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:02:38 +0100, g.bon2 wrote:

Hi,
for few days, my laptop doesn"t sleep as in the pass.
When I want it to sleep, it completely shutdown.
When I'm restarting it, I have to start new session and all aplications
have been shut down.
Down know what settings have changed and how to correct this.
It"s the same behaviour when I'm using the power button, when the
computer go and sleep himself (spelling settings) and when I'm using
sleep option in the power Windows menu (exactly the same as power off).
Is there any setting to change ?
Thanks,


Even when you "shutdown" Windows 8/10, it doesn't really do a clean
shutdown; it goes into a hybrid hibernation state so it boots faster
the next time you start it up.

To fully shutdown Windows, create a shortcut to:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32.EXE /s /t 0

Then double-click the icon.

This will force Windows to shut-down "old school" (very useful if
tinkering with hardware or other operating systems). Your next boot
will take longer than usual though.

I am unaware of anyway to force Windows to use this shutdown method
when you use the normal procedures.


Would that be

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\shutdown.EXE /s /t 0

The sysinternals.com pstools also has a shutdown utility.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...als/psshutdown

But the shutdown utilities are still subject to the workings
of the ACPI subsystem, so I don't think you can
"beat a computer into submission" with stuff
like that. Broken is broken :-)

In the past, I was able to quote a certain dumppo recipe,
and that solved a lot of problems. But that no longer
works on modern OSes, and it's too bad Microsoft didn't
just update that utility, as it makes misbehavior
a relatively quick fix. In typical usage, you "make a BIOS
settings mistake", damage your ACPI settings, and the
override in dumppo allows repair, after you've corrected
the deficiency in the BIOS. Modern motherboards don't
even seem to have that "trap" any more, so you may not
even have an ACPI setting to shoot yourself in the foot with.
My newest system doesn't have that option (S1 versus S1&S3).

Paul
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Old December 30th 15, 04:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

g.bon2 wrote on 12/29/2015 7:02 PM:
Hi,
for few days, my laptop doesn"t sleep as in the pass.
When I want it to sleep, it completely shutdown.
When I'm restarting it, I have to start new session and all aplications have been shut down.
Down know what settings have changed and how to correct this.
It"s the same behaviour when I'm using the power button, when the computer go and sleep himself (spelling settings) and
when I'm using sleep option in the power Windows menu (exactly the same as power off).
Is there any setting to change ?
Thanks,


I have a windows gadget that I use to sleep, (which is OT) but the command it uses is:
onClick="System.Shell.execute('C:\\windows\\System 32\\rundll32.exe', 'powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState Standby');" class="sleep"

Pull out the necessary execute command from that line. Has worked thru Windows 7 /8 / 8.1/ and now 10.


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Old December 30th 15, 07:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
g.bon2
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Default shutdown instead of sleeping

Do you have a sleep option through the start button?
Yes, I've got the option "sleep" but it does the same as shutdown
 




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