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  #16  
Old January 8th 12, 01:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alex Clayton[_2_]
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Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 1/7/2012 3:38 PM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 09:36 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:45 AM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 05:08 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 7:47 AM, Ant wrote:
On 1/7/2012 2:39 AM PT, Rob typed:

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64
Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.




Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now

Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to
delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?



I was wondering that same thing. If the W7 copy was a factory install
you may have a surprise coming in a month or so.


I doubt Windows 7 Ultimate is a factory install. Even if it's a generic
OEM version, it has been proven time and time again that a computer is
not defined by upgrading the MB or CPU.


Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.


Acer put a new motherboard in one of our laptops and that was six months
ago and we have had no problems nor been asked to activate again. I
would have raised hell with Acer had it been me.


Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had
to have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they
would give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life
on hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.

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  #17  
Old January 8th 12, 01:20 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Rob
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Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 8/01/2012 10:57 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 2:21 PM, Rob wrote:
On 8/01/2012 7:36 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:45 AM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 05:08 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 7:47 AM, Ant wrote:
On 1/7/2012 2:39 AM PT, Rob typed:

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which
does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64
Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the
HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a
notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.




Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now

Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to
delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?



I was wondering that same thing. If the W7 copy was a factory install
you may have a surprise coming in a month or so.


I doubt Windows 7 Ultimate is a factory install. Even if it's a generic
OEM version, it has been proven time and time again that a computer is
not defined by upgrading the MB or CPU.


Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.



Its a full version of W7 x68 and it says its still activated and
genuine. If it does come up in 30 days Ill reactivate it.


If by "full version" you mean you have a copy of the OS that you can
move to any computer you chose, then you are fine. If by full version
you mean you bought the computer and it was already installed, then you
may have to re-install it every 30 days, or try to get the manufacturer
to make it right with MS.



*OEM - must purchase with system order. Cheapest version I can buy.

*OEM 32 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183
*OEM 64 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183
  #18  
Old January 8th 12, 01:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alex Clayton[_2_]
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Posts: 142
Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 1/7/2012 4:20 PM, Rob wrote:
On 8/01/2012 10:57 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:



Its a full version of W7 x68 and it says its still activated and
genuine. If it does come up in 30 days Ill reactivate it.


If by "full version" you mean you have a copy of the OS that you can
move to any computer you chose, then you are fine. If by full version
you mean you bought the computer and it was already installed, then you
may have to re-install it every 30 days, or try to get the manufacturer
to make it right with MS.



*OEM - must purchase with system order. Cheapest version I can buy.

*OEM 32 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183
*OEM 64 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183



If this means you do not have a copy you can move to another computer
then you "may" be in for a headache. It's been a while since I went
through this but MS considered a new MB as making a new machine. Now if
you have a copy of the OS that did not come pre-installed, then it will
of course not matter.
Of course this may be something that MS has decided to change also. I am
sure I was not the only person who got caught up in this, so they may
have changed their policy. You will know soon enough.

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But to blame someone else shows management potential.
  #19  
Old January 8th 12, 01:52 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alias[_67_]
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Posts: 65
Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 01/08/2012 01:10 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 3:38 PM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 09:36 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:45 AM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 05:08 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 7:47 AM, Ant wrote:
On 1/7/2012 2:39 AM PT, Rob typed:

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which
does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64
Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the
HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a
notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.




Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now

Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to
delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?



I was wondering that same thing. If the W7 copy was a factory install
you may have a surprise coming in a month or so.


I doubt Windows 7 Ultimate is a factory install. Even if it's a generic
OEM version, it has been proven time and time again that a computer is
not defined by upgrading the MB or CPU.


Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.


Acer put a new motherboard in one of our laptops and that was six months
ago and we have had no problems nor been asked to activate again. I
would have raised hell with Acer had it been me.


Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had to
have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they would
give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life on
hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.


Or multiple experiences.

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Alias
  #20  
Old January 8th 12, 10:07 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
charlie[_2_]
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Posts: 707
Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 1/7/2012 7:10 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 3:38 PM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 09:36 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:45 AM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 05:08 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 7:47 AM, Ant wrote:
On 1/7/2012 2:39 AM PT, Rob typed:

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which
does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64
Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the
HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a
notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.




Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now

Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to
delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?



I was wondering that same thing. If the W7 copy was a factory install
you may have a surprise coming in a month or so.


I doubt Windows 7 Ultimate is a factory install. Even if it's a generic
OEM version, it has been proven time and time again that a computer is
not defined by upgrading the MB or CPU.


Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.


Acer put a new motherboard in one of our laptops and that was six months
ago and we have had no problems nor been asked to activate again. I
would have raised hell with Acer had it been me.


Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had to
have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they would
give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life on
hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.


Sometime back, I had a similar problem with a netbook.
After a bunch of phone calls to ACER, they sent a DVD copy of the as
installed OPS system. That installed with no problem. The original issue
was that the one time make a system backup scheme failed, due to a bad
DVD burn. While I had other means of making a backup, it really
irritated me that there was no easy way to totally restore the netbook's
HD to exactly out of the box configuration without a DVD copy.
The netbook in question is also the last XP based system I have.

One other system is an odd ball, in that it is used for hardware
debugging and general development. The ops system is up for grabs on it
- - Windows(Usually 7), Linux, and a couple of others under a virtual
machine as needed. The BIOS on that machine is also a customized
version. Seems the chipset drivers plus BIOS didn't completely conform
to current "standards", causing performance problems with some SSD
drives and SATA. It even has a current "high end" MBD, and before mods,
the current BIOS. The falling out between Intel and NVIDIA is not
helping either.



  #21  
Old January 8th 12, 11:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Allen Drake
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Posts: 451
Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:10:54 -0800, Alex Clayton
wrote:

On 1/7/2012 3:38 PM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 09:36 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:45 AM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 05:08 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 7:47 AM, Ant wrote:
On 1/7/2012 2:39 AM PT, Rob typed:

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64
Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.




Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now

Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to
delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?



I was wondering that same thing. If the W7 copy was a factory install
you may have a surprise coming in a month or so.


I doubt Windows 7 Ultimate is a factory install. Even if it's a generic
OEM version, it has been proven time and time again that a computer is
not defined by upgrading the MB or CPU.


Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.


Acer put a new motherboard in one of our laptops and that was six months
ago and we have had no problems nor been asked to activate again. I
would have raised hell with Acer had it been me.


Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had
to have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they
would give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life
on hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.


Alex did you get pop-up warnings that you had 30 days and reminders
your time was running out? That is very strange as I have never heard
of that happening but I always build my own and only use OEM OS
reinstalls with the old XP systems I have had for longer then I can
recall. Those I have moved to new builds and modified systems with
little hassle.

I try to stay clear of outlets and outside vendors after finding out
what Best Buys does to their laptops before they sell them.

Al.

  #22  
Old January 8th 12, 05:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alex Clayton[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 142
Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 1/7/2012 4:52 PM, Alias wrote:
On 01/08/2012 01:10 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 3:38 PM, Alias wrote:




Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran
out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had to
have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they would
give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life on
hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.


Or multiple experiences.


That was what I was thinking, I am sure I was not the only one this
happened to. That machine is made so that the power in port is part of
the MB. If it gets damaged or broken the only fix (that will work) is
replace the MB.
So all of you who no longer have to deal with this owe me a thanks
for fixing it. :-)


--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
[Lazarus Long]

  #23  
Old January 8th 12, 05:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alex Clayton[_2_]
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Posts: 142
Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 1/8/2012 2:53 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:10:54 -0800, Alex
wrote:

On 1/7/2012 3:38 PM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 09:36 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:45 AM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 05:08 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 7:47 AM, Ant wrote:
On 1/7/2012 2:39 AM PT, Rob typed:

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64
Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.




Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now

Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to
delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?



I was wondering that same thing. If the W7 copy was a factory install
you may have a surprise coming in a month or so.


I doubt Windows 7 Ultimate is a factory install. Even if it's a generic
OEM version, it has been proven time and time again that a computer is
not defined by upgrading the MB or CPU.


Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.


Acer put a new motherboard in one of our laptops and that was six months
ago and we have had no problems nor been asked to activate again. I
would have raised hell with Acer had it been me.


Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had
to have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they
would give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life
on hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.


Alex did you get pop-up warnings that you had 30 days and reminders
your time was running out? That is very strange as I have never heard
of that happening but I always build my own and only use OEM OS
reinstalls with the old XP systems I have had for longer then I can
recall. Those I have moved to new builds and modified systems with
little hassle.

I try to stay clear of outlets and outside vendors after finding out
what Best Buys does to their laptops before they sell them.

Al.


No, everything would be fine until all of a sudden I would get a "Not
Genuine copy of Windows, bla bla bla".
The machine came from BB, but nothing was wrong until Acer "fixed it".
We had been using it for around 6 months. Wife managed to bend the pin
in the power port. I figured Acer would not cover something like that so
I took it to a shop. They said they would solder in a new port but that
it would never hold. Only way to fix it was new MB. I just bought Wife a
new machine. Then later sent that one to Acer to see how much it would
cost. They got it on a Friday and the next Monday instead of an E-mail
with cost, I got one that said they fixed it under warranty and here is
the tracking for it coming back. I thought wow, that was cool. I was
just using it for school since it was lighter to carry then. After 30
days all the fun started. After sending it back to Acer twice and
multiple re-installs I just bought a new key from MS. That machine is
now just used to play movies onto our TV. Acer could have fixed this but
they chose not to. If they had just told me the truth I would have not
really cared. I never expected them to fix the power port free. What
really ****ed me off was the way they wasted so much of my time and
money stalling after they knew full well what the hell was wrong.

--
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Will Rogers

  #24  
Old January 8th 12, 06:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Allen Drake
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:53:38 -0800, Alex Clayton
wrote:

On 1/8/2012 2:53 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:10:54 -0800, Alex
wrote:

On 1/7/2012 3:38 PM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 09:36 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 8:45 AM, Alias wrote:
On 01/07/2012 05:08 PM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 7:47 AM, Ant wrote:
On 1/7/2012 2:39 AM PT, Rob typed:

If I change the MB and CPU from a 1156 CPU to a 1155 CPU which does
involve the MB as well - The current setup is running W7 x64
Ultimate

What procedure does one go about this change so as to leave the HDD
information intact (like doing a repair install with XP).

or do you have to reformat the HDD and start from scratch?

Thanks

Just do the change and nothing will happen other then maybe a notice
to reactivate. Do that and everything will be fine.

Al.




Thanks Al

just done what you mentioned and it all comes back as previous just
added the new MB drivers and all looks fine.

Saved heaps of time in reinstalling software and activations etc.

Activation was not required for W7

Lot easier than XP repair setup.

Thanks again
.........................

To the other reply

All I changed was the MB and CPU.

The old MB developed a problem which I traced back to the MB, this
occurred after the Power Supply spat the dummy.

Since the 1156 MB's are now obsolete, when for a new 1155 MB and CPU
lucky it was just the MB and none of the other hardware bits.


I have a i5 760 (1156 pin) CPU for sale now

Wow, no reactivation. Was this a retail W7? Did you have to
delete/clean
out old hardwares in Windows' Device Manager?



I was wondering that same thing. If the W7 copy was a factory install
you may have a surprise coming in a month or so.


I doubt Windows 7 Ultimate is a factory install. Even if it's a generic
OEM version, it has been proven time and time again that a computer is
not defined by upgrading the MB or CPU.


Don't know how many times it's been proven, just know that when Acer put
a new MB in one of my machines what happened. Every 30 days it would
stop working. Told me the license was a 30 day trial and the 30 days was
up. if I reinstalled the OS it would start the 30 day clock all over.
After a few times of doing that and getting a snow job from Acer I
finally just bought a "get genuine" license from MS.


Acer put a new motherboard in one of our laptops and that was six months
ago and we have had no problems nor been asked to activate again. I
would have raised hell with Acer had it been me.


Maybe they learned something from their experience with me then. They
lost my business for life over the screwing they gave me. Not that they
are going to care. We drug this through the weeds for weeks back when
this was going on. Some were trying to be helpful, others where offering
me insane solutions. Like hire a lawyer and sue MS over the $100.00. I
sent the machine back to Acer twice. Both times I had to pay the
shipping to them, they paid the return. Each time they would on the
phone have me re-install the OS first. This of course worked for 30
days. Then they would give me the RMA to send it back and they obviously
did the same thing. Then sent it back. So in 30 days I would be on the
phone again and they would start in with the, "lets re-install Windows".
After doing this a few times I figured out this was not a solution. It
was easy to see they were going to just snow me until the warranty ran out.
Calling MS got me no where. They blamed it on Acer and told me I had
to have them fix it. Some here told me if I raised hell with MS they
would give me a new Key to fix it. I did not feel like spending my life
on hold to talk to more of their robots. Took the easy way out and just
paid for the new Key and disc. I made it clear to Acer that I would
never buy anything they made again and they said "sorry". So maybe they
have learned something from the experience.


Alex did you get pop-up warnings that you had 30 days and reminders
your time was running out? That is very strange as I have never heard
of that happening but I always build my own and only use OEM OS
reinstalls with the old XP systems I have had for longer then I can
recall. Those I have moved to new builds and modified systems with
little hassle.

I try to stay clear of outlets and outside vendors after finding out
what Best Buys does to their laptops before they sell them.

Al.


No, everything would be fine until all of a sudden I would get a "Not
Genuine copy of Windows, bla bla bla".
The machine came from BB, but nothing was wrong until Acer "fixed it".
We had been using it for around 6 months. Wife managed to bend the pin
in the power port. I figured Acer would not cover something like that so
I took it to a shop. They said they would solder in a new port but that
it would never hold. Only way to fix it was new MB. I just bought Wife a
new machine. Then later sent that one to Acer to see how much it would
cost. They got it on a Friday and the next Monday instead of an E-mail
with cost, I got one that said they fixed it under warranty and here is
the tracking for it coming back. I thought wow, that was cool. I was
just using it for school since it was lighter to carry then. After 30
days all the fun started. After sending it back to Acer twice and
multiple re-installs I just bought a new key from MS. That machine is
now just used to play movies onto our TV. Acer could have fixed this but
they chose not to. If they had just told me the truth I would have not
really cared. I never expected them to fix the power port free. What
really ****ed me off was the way they wasted so much of my time and
money stalling after they knew full well what the hell was wrong.


That would irritate me to. I guess I am lucky not to have to deal
with problems with anything I have purchased so far. The only thing I
didn't like about BB is they provided me with a different version of
my ASUS G73SW. A special model that is sold only by BB. I found out
later that it didn't have everything ASUS had if I bought it from them
and maybe other stores like a smaller screen and a different DVD-ROM
and a few other stripped out features. I would have done exactly what
you did as I hate to be put through the ringer like Acer seems to do.

I have read where others have gotten that notice of not having a
genuine copy of Windows but I can't remember what the fix was. What do
you mean by "all the fun started"? What exactly happened other then
the "not genuine" issue? Maybe that wasn't an Acer issue although you
did say MS said it was. It seems you are past that now but I still
wonder if there could have been a fix that didn't involve Acer.

I wonder if I should have a spare key around just for emergencies.
After all I have a spare everything else. Spare PSUs, Video cards,
computers

Al.



  #25  
Old January 8th 12, 10:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Rob
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Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 8/01/2012 11:51 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 4:20 PM, Rob wrote:
On 8/01/2012 10:57 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:



Its a full version of W7 x68 and it says its still activated and
genuine. If it does come up in 30 days Ill reactivate it.

If by "full version" you mean you have a copy of the OS that you can
move to any computer you chose, then you are fine. If by full version
you mean you bought the computer and it was already installed, then you
may have to re-install it every 30 days, or try to get the manufacturer
to make it right with MS.



*OEM - must purchase with system order. Cheapest version I can buy.

*OEM 32 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183
*OEM 64 bit MS Win7 Home Premium /Pro /Ultimate 95 / 127 / 183



If this means you do not have a copy you can move to another computer
then you "may" be in for a headache. It's been a while since I went
through this but MS considered a new MB as making a new machine. Now if
you have a copy of the OS that did not come pre-installed, then it will
of course not matter.
Of course this may be something that MS has decided to change also. I am
sure I was not the only person who got caught up in this, so they may
have changed their policy. You will know soon enough.


Its still on one machine and it is on the same HDD and in the same box.

So what you are saying if a PC requires another MB then I should buy
another copy of the system?
  #26  
Old January 9th 12, 04:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alex Clayton[_2_]
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Default Changing MB and CPU W7

On 1/8/2012 9:20 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:53:38 -0800, Alex
wrote:



I have read where others have gotten that notice of not having a
genuine copy of Windows but I can't remember what the fix was. What do
you mean by "all the fun started"? What exactly happened other then
the "not genuine" issue? Maybe that wasn't an Acer issue although you
did say MS said it was. It seems you are past that now but I still
wonder if there could have been a fix that didn't involve Acer.

I wonder if I should have a spare key around just for emergencies.
After all I have a spare everything else. Spare PSUs, Video cards,
computers

Al.




A couple days after the warning it would not run. It gave some kind of
link to "get genuine". It offered several possible solutions. At the
time I had no idea what the hell was going on. Fist I called Acer. They
had me re-install the OS from the HD. It has a section of the HD to
allow this, sets it back to factory. Of course all was working then so I
thought that was it. Put all my stuff back in and all was fine. Then 30
days later again same thing. Called Acer they tried to have me
re-install. I told them we had been through that. Then they gave me an
RMA to send it to them. I paid the shipping. A couple days after they
got it they paid to send it back. 30 days later here we go again with
the NG. I called, they tried the re-install, I said no, they gave
another RMA. Got it back, 30 days later here we go again. Now I followed
the links from MS. One option was to pay a C note for a "get genuine
kit" which is a new key. I called Acer they refused to pay for this. I
called MS they ran the serial numbers, told me it was Acer's fault. Acer
wanted me to send it back again. By now I had about had enough. I just
paid MS for the new key. some where in all this I was able to find out
that the "problem" was MS considers a new MB to be a new machine. If you
have a retail install they are not willing to let you move it to a new
machine. Now Acer could have of course fixed this, they have a lot more
pull with MS than I do. It got to where it was easy to see what Acer was
going to do was screw with me until the warranty ran out.
I gave up and told them never again would I buy anything they made.
It sounds like I was not the only one who had this happen and they have
now decided to not screw anyone else over. Like I said if they had just
told me at the start that they would replace the MB but I would have to
buy the new Key, I would have been fine. It was the way they kept lying
and stringing me along that made me really mad.

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  #27  
Old January 9th 12, 05:01 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alex Clayton[_2_]
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On 1/8/2012 1:14 PM, Rob wrote:
On 8/01/2012 11:51 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 4:20 PM, Rob wrote:



Its still on one machine and it is on the same HDD and in the same box.

So what you are saying if a PC requires another MB then I should buy
another copy of the system?




If it keeps working then you are golden. When W-7 came out MS was
considering a new MB to be a new machine. It sounds like they may have
stopped doing this now. You will know in a few weeks.
--
Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to
know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the
roads weren't paved.
Will Rogers
  #28  
Old January 9th 12, 09:50 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Allen Drake
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:01:29 -0800, Alex Clayton
wrote:

On 1/8/2012 1:14 PM, Rob wrote:
On 8/01/2012 11:51 AM, Alex Clayton wrote:
On 1/7/2012 4:20 PM, Rob wrote:



Its still on one machine and it is on the same HDD and in the same box.

So what you are saying if a PC requires another MB then I should buy
another copy of the system?




If it keeps working then you are golden. When W-7 came out MS was
considering a new MB to be a new machine. It sounds like they may have
stopped doing this now. You will know in a few weeks.


I had read long threads some years ago on a Windows group about that
issue. It became very heated while an MS MVP insisted a new board
constituted a new system. I never agreed on that stance. It seems MS
has become very soft on that with Windows XP anyway. I am continually
swapping out hardware and have re-activated countless times in the
past few months. I don't think MS or anyone would have anything to
gain by enforcing such a tight rule. I am sure their support overload
has dropped. I can't see many buying more computers then they already
are.

Al.
  #29  
Old January 9th 12, 09:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Allen Drake
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:59:05 -0800, Alex Clayton
wrote:

On 1/8/2012 9:20 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:53:38 -0800, Alex
wrote:



I have read where others have gotten that notice of not having a
genuine copy of Windows but I can't remember what the fix was. What do
you mean by "all the fun started"? What exactly happened other then
the "not genuine" issue? Maybe that wasn't an Acer issue although you
did say MS said it was. It seems you are past that now but I still
wonder if there could have been a fix that didn't involve Acer.

I wonder if I should have a spare key around just for emergencies.
After all I have a spare everything else. Spare PSUs, Video cards,
computers

Al.




A couple days after the warning it would not run. It gave some kind of
link to "get genuine". It offered several possible solutions. At the
time I had no idea what the hell was going on. Fist I called Acer. They
had me re-install the OS from the HD. It has a section of the HD to
allow this, sets it back to factory. Of course all was working then so I
thought that was it. Put all my stuff back in and all was fine. Then 30
days later again same thing. Called Acer they tried to have me
re-install. I told them we had been through that. Then they gave me an
RMA to send it to them. I paid the shipping. A couple days after they
got it they paid to send it back. 30 days later here we go again with
the NG. I called, they tried the re-install, I said no, they gave
another RMA. Got it back, 30 days later here we go again. Now I followed
the links from MS. One option was to pay a C note for a "get genuine
kit" which is a new key. I called Acer they refused to pay for this. I
called MS they ran the serial numbers, told me it was Acer's fault. Acer
wanted me to send it back again. By now I had about had enough. I just
paid MS for the new key. some where in all this I was able to find out
that the "problem" was MS considers a new MB to be a new machine. If you
have a retail install they are not willing to let you move it to a new
machine. Now Acer could have of course fixed this, they have a lot more
pull with MS than I do. It got to where it was easy to see what Acer was
going to do was screw with me until the warranty ran out.
I gave up and told them never again would I buy anything they made.
It sounds like I was not the only one who had this happen and they have
now decided to not screw anyone else over. Like I said if they had just
told me at the start that they would replace the MB but I would have to
buy the new Key, I would have been fine. It was the way they kept lying
and stringing me along that made me really mad.


That's incredible. This is the number one reason I never buy
computers. That and the enjoyment I get from building my own. I knew a
guy who claimed be custom built laptops. I have never seen any parts
online that would confirm his claim but what happened to you would
give me reason to look further. I guess I have been lucky not to have
had any problems with any laptops other then one I gave my niece that
has just come back dead. Who knows that could be wrong but a crack is
something that runs through my mind. I doubt she would ever tell me
she had dropped it. I is rather old and heavy. Oh well.............

  #30  
Old January 9th 12, 04:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alex Clayton[_2_]
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On 1/9/2012 12:59 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:59:05 -0800, Alex
wrote:



A couple days after the warning it would not run. It gave some kind of
link to "get genuine". It offered several possible solutions. At the
time I had no idea what the hell was going on. Fist I called Acer. They
had me re-install the OS from the HD. It has a section of the HD to
allow this, sets it back to factory. Of course all was working then so I
thought that was it. Put all my stuff back in and all was fine. Then 30
days later again same thing. Called Acer they tried to have me
re-install. I told them we had been through that. Then they gave me an
RMA to send it to them. I paid the shipping. A couple days after they
got it they paid to send it back. 30 days later here we go again with
the NG. I called, they tried the re-install, I said no, they gave
another RMA. Got it back, 30 days later here we go again. Now I followed
the links from MS. One option was to pay a C note for a "get genuine
kit" which is a new key. I called Acer they refused to pay for this. I
called MS they ran the serial numbers, told me it was Acer's fault. Acer
wanted me to send it back again. By now I had about had enough. I just
paid MS for the new key. some where in all this I was able to find out
that the "problem" was MS considers a new MB to be a new machine. If you
have a retail install they are not willing to let you move it to a new
machine. Now Acer could have of course fixed this, they have a lot more
pull with MS than I do. It got to where it was easy to see what Acer was
going to do was screw with me until the warranty ran out.
I gave up and told them never again would I buy anything they made.
It sounds like I was not the only one who had this happen and they have
now decided to not screw anyone else over. Like I said if they had just
told me at the start that they would replace the MB but I would have to
buy the new Key, I would have been fine. It was the way they kept lying
and stringing me along that made me really mad.


That's incredible. This is the number one reason I never buy
computers. That and the enjoyment I get from building my own. I knew a
guy who claimed be custom built laptops. I have never seen any parts
online that would confirm his claim but what happened to you would
give me reason to look further. I guess I have been lucky not to have
had any problems with any laptops other then one I gave my niece that
has just come back dead. Who knows that could be wrong but a crack is
something that runs through my mind. I doubt she would ever tell me
she had dropped it. I is rather old and heavy. Oh well.............


I know very little about PC's. I am sure I "could" build one, I just
have no desire to learn enough about it. When I need a new desk top or
laptop I look for what is on sale in the Sunday ads. If I get a couple
years out of them I am happy. Now that I am getting older my eyes are
not as good as they used to be. For that reason I like the 17" screen
laptops. When I decided to replace my last one all I cared about was the
screen size. bought this one because it was on sale and they had one in
the store. To buy a builders copy of W-7 last I looked was almost as
much as I paid for this machine. As long as I get a couple years out of
it and can give it to someone else I am happy.
The Acer model I had all the trouble with I bought 2 of. I bought
them at a Black Friday sale in 09. One went to Wife, one went to one of
our kids. The one the kid had lasted over a year until her cat knocked a
container of yogurt on it and smeared it all over the keyboard. I took
it to a shop to have checked. They were able to put a new KB in it for
less than a C note so we had them do it. She is still using it and it
works fine. I figure since I paid about $300.00 for it she has more than
gotten the moneys worth out of it.

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