Windows XP SP3 Twice As Fast As Vista

Gordon wrote:

"Gerry" wrote in message
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I am not impressed with their pricing strategy outside the US.


I emailed MS UK to ask why retail copies of Vista in UK were DOUBLE the cost
of Vista in the US, given the exchange rate of 2$ to the £, and in the reply
was the wonderful statement "one factor in determining the retail price in
the UK is the GDP per head"!!!!!!!!!!
As a Management Accountant of many years standing I have NEVER EVER seen ANY
organisation use "GDP per Head" as part of their pricing strategy! And that
backfired on them as the GDP per head in the US is higher than that of the
UK! When I put that to MS UK they became remarkably silent....



I would suspect that it's to cover the costs of doing business in the
"European community".

"Bob I" wrote in message
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Gordon wrote:

"Gerry" wrote in message
...


I am not impressed with their pricing strategy outside the US.


I emailed MS UK to ask why retail copies of Vista in UK were DOUBLE the
cost of Vista in the US, given the exchange rate of 2$ to the £, and in
the reply was the wonderful statement "one factor in determining the
retail price in the UK is the GDP per head"!!!!!!!!!!
As a Management Accountant of many years standing I have NEVER EVER seen
ANY organisation use "GDP per Head" as part of their pricing strategy! And
that backfired on them as the GDP per head in the US is higher than that
of the UK! When I put that to MS UK they became remarkably silent....


I would suspect that it's to cover the costs of doing business in the
"European community".


I suspect not, because the same thing happened with XP - XP was double the
USA price, and that was WAY before the EU anti-trust thing....

Gordon wrote:

"Bob I" wrote in message
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Gordon wrote:


"Gerry" wrote in message
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I am not impressed with their pricing strategy outside the US.


I emailed MS UK to ask why retail copies of Vista in UK were DOUBLE the
cost of Vista in the US, given the exchange rate of 2$ to the £, and in
the reply was the wonderful statement "one factor in determining the
retail price in the UK is the GDP per head"!!!!!!!!!!
As a Management Accountant of many years standing I have NEVER EVER seen
ANY organisation use "GDP per Head" as part of their pricing strategy! And
that backfired on them as the GDP per head in the US is higher than that
of the UK! When I put that to MS UK they became remarkably silent....



I would suspect that it's to cover the costs of doing business in the
"European community".


I suspect not, because the same thing happened with XP - XP was double the
USA price, and that was WAY before the EU anti-trust thing....



You forgot about the Windows XP "N" edition. tongue in cheek

"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Gerry" wrote in message
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I am not impressed with their pricing strategy outside the US.

I emailed MS UK to ask why retail copies of Vista in UK were DOUBLE the
cost of Vista in the US, given the exchange rate of 2$ to the £, and in
the reply was the wonderful statement "one factor in determining the
retail price in the UK is the GDP per head"!!!!!!!!!!
As a Management Accountant of many years standing I have NEVER EVER seen
ANY organisation use "GDP per Head" as part of their pricing strategy! And
that backfired on them as the GDP per head in the US is higher than that
of the UK! When I put that to MS UK they became remarkably silent....

Gates has got to pay his fines somehow :-)

Antioch

Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:58:06 -0800 from Frank :
ColTom2 wrote:
Recently released info:
http://www.dabcc.com:80/article.aspx?id=6507

Forget it...that was posted days ago and the test used was severely flawed.
Frank

Plus, what's this "SP3"?

Mcrosoft seems to think that the latest service pack is 2:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...p/default.mspx

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/

Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:15:04 -0000 from Gordon
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And would you like to explain to us less-knowledgeable people just WHY it's
flawed?

One reason is that it benchmarks nonexistent software against Vista.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/

Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:13:41 -0500 from Stan Brown
:
Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:58:06 -0800 from Frank :
ColTom2 wrote:
Recently released info:
http://www.dabcc.com:80/article.aspx?id=6507

Forget it...that was posted days ago and the test used was severely flawed.
Frank

Plus, what's this "SP3"?

Mcrosoft seems to think that the latest service pack is 2:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...p/default.mspx

I see Gerry has posted an official link to SP3:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...lyID=68c48dad-
bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/

Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:14:42 -0500 from Stan Brown
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Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:15:04 -0000 from Gordon
:
And would you like to explain to us less-knowledgeable people just WHY it's
flawed?

One reason is that it benchmarks nonexistent software against Vista.

Please disregard -- I see Gerry has posted an official link to SP3:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...lyID=68c48dad-
bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/

Stan Brown wrote:
I see Gerry has posted an official link to SP3:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

You should really go to/comprehend what is at the links before you post them
as something they are not. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Gordon

Do you really believe the Microsoft spin doctors and Bill Gates when
they try to explain the price differential? They all give different
explanations.Bill made a right cockup of his explanation when
interviewed on UK TV early in the year.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Gordon wrote:
"Bob I" wrote in message
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Gordon wrote:

"Gerry" wrote in message
...


I am not impressed with their pricing strategy outside the US.


I emailed MS UK to ask why retail copies of Vista in UK were DOUBLE
the cost of Vista in the US, given the exchange rate of 2$ to the £,
and in the reply was the wonderful statement "one factor in
determining the retail price in the UK is the GDP per head"!!!!!!!!!!
As a Management Accountant of many years standing I have NEVER EVER
seen ANY organisation use "GDP per Head" as part of their pricing
strategy! And that backfired on them as the GDP per head in the US
is higher than that of the UK! When I put that to MS UK they became
remarkably silent....

I would suspect that it's to cover the costs of doing business in the
"European community".


I suspect not, because the same thing happened with XP - XP was
double the USA price, and that was WAY before the EU anti-trust
thing....

Shenan

Stan did not post the link. I posted the link without commenting just to
see what the gang here made of it.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Shenan Stanley wrote:
Stan Brown wrote:
I see Gerry has posted an official link to SP3:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

You should really go to/comprehend what is at the links before you
post them as something they are not. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
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Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:15:04 -0000 from Gordon
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And would you like to explain to us less-knowledgeable people just WHY
it's
flawed?

One reason is that it benchmarks nonexistent software against Vista.


And just how did you deduce that from the article?

Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:23:58 -0000 from Gordon
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"Stan Brown" wrote in message
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Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:15:04 -0000 from Gordon
:
And would you like to explain to us less-knowledgeable people just WHY
it's
flawed?

One reason is that it benchmarks nonexistent software against Vista.


And just how did you deduce that from the article?

I deduced it because the latest SP shown in MS download center was
SP2. We've been hearing about SP3 for a long time, and it's always
been either vaporware or some hack's creation.

Then after posting I saw Gerry's link, so it appears part of
Microsoft's site has been updated and part has not -- or else SP3 has
been announced but isn't actually available for download.

As I said when I started a new thread, I was surprised there hadn't
been any discussion here.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/

Bob I wrote:


ColTom2 wrote:

I must have hit a sensitive nerve with the Vista pundits although
unintentional. Since reading some of the curt replies it now causes me
to wonder even more why XP represented over 40% of MS sales of OS
software this year. This is somewhat unprecedented I might add and is
not a "flawed fact".


That would infer that nearly 60% was Vista. So whats the big whoopie doo
about?


As one of those 60% ers, I did /not/ have a choice. My new portable came
pre-installed with Vista (no choice given) - and I refuse to pay more
money to a crooked organisation to have XP re-installed.

Now do you understand?

Bob I wrote:
Actually the real interesting point is that it is very reminiscent of 5
years ago. 'nough said.


So, Bob, people should wait for Vista "SP2" before they waste any money
on the new OS. Perhaps by that time Vista will have gone the way of
Windows ME (consigned to the dusbin of software history)