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#16
November 25th 16, 05:17 PM
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Micro$oft's role in the world
On 26/11/2016 1:05 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
If you are determined to use a Microsoft OS, you are stuck with their sucky licence agreement. Your problem. A commercial operating system does NOT need to compromise our privacy and data security. The two things can be decoupled! An operating system is just an operating system. 
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#17
November 25th 16, 05:21 PM
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"voluntary data theft"
BTW, you and others really need to separate the operating system functions from app(lication)s that stole data. They are two layers of services, with the operating system being the bottom one. On 26/11/2016 1:05 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: I repeat: there is no other Microsoft operating system! Indeed. But I repeat: there are alternatives to Microsoft. Here is a non-exclusive list of some of those alternatives. BSD FreeBSD Linux (in any of a great variety of flavours) NetBSD Oberon OpenBEOS OpenBSD Plan 9 QNX ReactOS As far as I'm aware, none of these require you to agree to "these conditions, and any others that we decide to add in the future without consulting you". If you are determined to use a Microsoft OS, you are stuck with their sucky licence agreement. Your problem.
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#18
November 25th 16, 05:40 PM
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Micro$oft's role in the world
On 25/11/16 17:17, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 26/11/2016 1:05 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: If you are determined to use a Microsoft OS, you are stuck with their sucky licence agreement. Your problem. A commercial operating system does NOT need to compromise our privacy and data security. The two things can be decoupled! An operating system is just an operating system. I don't care. You asked about abusive licence agreements, and I pointed out that you don't have to sign them. If you want a commercial operating system that doesn't compromise your privacy and data security, feel free to write one. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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#19
November 25th 16, 05:41 PM
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"voluntary data theft"
On 25/11/16 17:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
BTW, you and others really need to separate the operating system functions from app(lication)s that stole data. Fine. If you're okay with the OS licence agreement but not okay with the application licence agreement, use a different application. FCOL! -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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#20
November 25th 16, 08:20 PM
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Micro$oft's role in the world
On 11/25/2016 12:17 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Richard Heathfield wrote: If you are determined to use a Microsoft OS, you are stuck with their sucky licence agreement. Your problem. A commercial operating system does NOT need to compromise our privacy and data security. The two things can be decoupled! An operating system is just an operating system. Perhaps you could have a quiet word with Bill.
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#21
November 25th 16, 08:46 PM
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Micro$oft's role in the world
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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: On 26/11/2016 1:05 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: If you are determined to use a Microsoft OS, you are stuck with their sucky licence agreement. Your problem. A commercial operating system does NOT need to compromise our privacy and data security. The two things can be decoupled! An operating system is just an operating system. What part of the word "commercial" do you not understand diaper boi. No one foced you into an OS. In fact it's best that you stay away from computers entirely as they seemingly elude your mental grasp.
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#22
November 26th 16, 12:00 AM
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"voluntary data theft"
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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: On 25/11/2016 11:38 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: But there is no other Micro$oft operating systems.  Then use one of the many alternatives. I repeat: there is no other Microsoft operating system! Shut up. You're wasting oxygen and electrons again.
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#23
November 26th 16, 11:20 AM
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"voluntary data theft"
On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow...
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#24
November 26th 16, 12:11 PM
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"voluntary data theft"
On 26/11/16 11:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. If you don't agree, don't install the damn thing. I had the same choice as you the last time I set up a laptop, and I chose to install Linux instead. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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#25
November 26th 16, 12:53 PM
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Intention of clicking "YES" or "AGREE"
On 26/11/2016 1:41 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 25/11/16 17:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: BTW, you and others really need to separate the operating system functions from app(lication)s that stole data. Fine. If you're okay with the OS licence agreement but not okay with the application licence agreement, use a different application. FCOL! Then users are NOT agreeing on anything, Your Honor! They just wanna install Windows 10, Your Honor! And that's all in their minds and brains!
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#26
November 26th 16, 02:55 PM
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Intention of clicking "YES" or "AGREE"
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Then users are NOT agreeing on anything, Your Honor! They just wanna install Windows 10, Your Honor! As been said, either click 'Yes' and agree to your digital-colonoscopy or click 'No' and install some other OS. That is the only choice MS gives, you plain and simple. trimmed the insane cross-posting -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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#27
November 26th 16, 02:57 PM
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"voluntary data theft"
On 26/11/16 14:52, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:20:49 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow... So you made the choice to agree to the terms and conditions and install Windows 10. OK. What, exactly, is the issue? The issue is, I think, obvious, and it's this: the choice is unpalatable to him. He has only two options: 1) agree to something he doesn't want to agree to (payoff: he gets to use Windows 10, which for some reason he really wants to do); 2) decline to use Windows 10 (payoff: he can decline the licence agreement, which I can fully understand him wanting to do). The problem is that he doesn't know which choice to make, and presumably he thinks we can have a quiet word with Microsoft on his behalf. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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#28
November 26th 16, 03:13 PM
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"voluntary data theft"
Then users are NOT agreeing on anything, Your Honor! They just wanna install Windows 10, Your Honor! And that's all in their minds and brains! On 26/11/2016 10:57 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: On 26/11/16 14:52, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:20:49 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow... So you made the choice to agree to the terms and conditions and install Windows 10. OK. What, exactly, is the issue? The issue is, I think, obvious, and it's this: the choice is unpalatable to him. He has only two options: 1) agree to something he doesn't want to agree to (payoff: he gets to use Windows 10, which for some reason he really wants to do); 2) decline to use Windows 10 (payoff: he can decline the licence agreement, which I can fully understand him wanting to do). The problem is that he doesn't know which choice to make, and presumably he thinks we can have a quiet word with Microsoft on his behalf.
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#29
November 26th 16, 03:13 PM
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"voluntary data theft"
Then users are NOT agreeing on anything, Your Honor! They just wanna install Windows 10, Your Honor! And that's all in their minds and brains! On 26/11/2016 10:52 PM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:20:49 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow... So you made the choice to agree to the terms and conditions and install Windows 10. OK. What, exactly, is the issue?
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#30
November 26th 16, 04:14 PM
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"voluntary data theft" and Window$ installation
Then users are NOT agreeing on anything, Your Honor! They just wanna install Windows 10, Your Honor! Your Honor, users are *tricked* to sign something dangerous when all they want is to get the operating system installed and working! On 26/11/2016 8:00 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: Shut up. You're wasting oxygen and electrons again.
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