Unknown device

Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature of
'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular, having
installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled the machine,
including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS enabled all show up
just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached
to the PCI bus with absolutely no information as to what it may be except
that it uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is. When not
viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung under '?Other
Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown' and
'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a post with
such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to locate it in
context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable to locate it with the
Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there was only ONE post with a header
dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone tell
me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news this AM,
I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace the brain-dead
native OE facility) to see if it would still be available, and of course, it
wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have
made it available for purchase, or if not that, for beta evaluation? This
doesn't sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Generally, going to Start/Control Panel/Add New Hardware, it will prompt you
for what it is looking for, foremost.

Added info: SM Bus Controller
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
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All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"jt3" wrote in message
...
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature of
'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular, having
installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled the machine,
including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS enabled all show up
just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached
to the PCI bus with absolutely no information as to what it may be except
that it uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is. When not
viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung under '?Other
Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown' and
'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a post
with
such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to locate it in
context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable to locate it with
the
Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there was only ONE post with a
header
dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone
tell
me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news this
AM,
I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace the brain-dead
native OE facility) to see if it would still be available, and of course,
it
wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have
made it available for purchase, or if not that, for beta evaluation? This
doesn't sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in Device
Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature
of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular,
having installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled
the machine, including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS
enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an
'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI bus with absolutely no
information as to what it may be except that it uses resources of I/O
range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also hanging off the PCI bus
with no information as to what it is. When not viewed by connection,
but by type, they are both hung under '?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown'
and 'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a
post with such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to
locate it in context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable
to locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there
was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I
had seen previously. Can anyone tell me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news
this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace
the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would still be
available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it
down. Couldn't they at least have made it available for purchase, or
if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't sound like good
relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Nice find, Wes. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:NZdKc.104007$IQ4.54995@attbi_s02...
Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in Device
Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature
of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular,
having installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled
the machine, including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS
enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an
'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI bus with absolutely no
information as to what it may be except that it uses resources of I/O
range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also hanging off the PCI bus
with no information as to what it is. When not viewed by connection,
but by type, they are both hung under '?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown'
and 'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a
post with such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to
locate it in context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable
to locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there
was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I
had seen previously. Can anyone tell me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news
this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace
the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would still be
available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it
down. Couldn't they at least have made it available for purchase, or
if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't sound like good
relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Kelly,

Oh, I've had this for a while. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Nice find, Wes. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:NZdKc.104007$IQ4.54995@attbi_s02...
Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in Device
Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature
of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In
particular, having installed XP P everything that I put on it when
I assembled the machine, including all the onboard devices (mdb)
which are BIOS enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but
additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI bus
with absolutely no information as to what it may be except that it
uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is. When
not viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung under
'?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the
NG subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of
'unknown' and 'device' when I noticed that although on the first
pass I found a post with such content in its header dated 7/9/04,
when I tried to locate it in context of a thread, it disappeared,
then I was unable to locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I
noticed that there was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04
(and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone tell me
what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news
this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace
the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would still be
available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it
down. Couldn't they at least have made it available for purchase,
or if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't sound like good
relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Well, well.....why did you wait so long. Nice, very nice! )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:wuiKc.81039$WX.54799@attbi_s51...
Kelly,

Oh, I've had this for a while. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Nice find, Wes. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:NZdKc.104007$IQ4.54995@attbi_s02...
Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in Device
Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature
of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In
particular, having installed XP P everything that I put on it when
I assembled the machine, including all the onboard devices (mdb)
which are BIOS enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but
additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI bus
with absolutely no information as to what it may be except that it
uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is. When
not viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung under
'?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the
NG subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of
'unknown' and 'device' when I noticed that although on the first
pass I found a post with such content in its header dated 7/9/04,
when I tried to locate it in context of a thread, it disappeared,
then I was unable to locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I
noticed that there was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04
(and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone tell me
what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news
this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace
the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would still be
available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it
down. Couldn't they at least have made it available for purchase,
or if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't sound like good
relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Hadn't run across a post asking about unknown devices before.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Well, well.....why did you wait so long. Nice, very nice! )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:wuiKc.81039$WX.54799@attbi_s51...
Kelly,

Oh, I've had this for a while. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Nice find, Wes. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:NZdKc.104007$IQ4.54995@attbi_s02...
Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in
Device Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the
nature of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In
particular, having installed XP P everything that I put on it when
I assembled the machine, including all the onboard devices (mdb)
which are BIOS enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but
additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI bus
with absolutely no information as to what it may be except that it
uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is.
When not viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung
under '?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching
the NG subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of
'unknown' and 'device' when I noticed that although on the first
pass I found a post with such content in its header dated 7/9/04,
when I tried to locate it in context of a thread, it disappeared,
then I was unable to locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I
noticed that there was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04
(and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone tell me
what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the
news this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to
replace the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would
still be available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in
shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have made it available
for purchase, or if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't
sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Wesley,
Thanks for the links--I will need some time to digest it all. Still, or
even more confused about the posting questions, esp. with all the repost
character indications in your reply, unless it was a cut and paste.

Thanks,
Joe
"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:fcwKc.123225$XM6.12193@attbi_s53...
Hadn't run across a post asking about unknown devices before.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Well, well.....why did you wait so long. Nice, very nice! )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:wuiKc.81039$WX.54799@attbi_s51...
Kelly,

Oh, I've had this for a while. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Nice find, Wes. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:NZdKc.104007$IQ4.54995@attbi_s02...
Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in
Device Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the
nature of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In
particular, having installed XP P everything that I put on it when
I assembled the machine, including all the onboard devices (mdb)
which are BIOS enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but
additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI bus
with absolutely no information as to what it may be except that it
uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is.
When not viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung
under '?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching
the NG subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of
'unknown' and 'device' when I noticed that although on the first
pass I found a post with such content in its header dated 7/9/04,
when I tried to locate it in context of a thread, it disappeared,
then I was unable to locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I
noticed that there was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04
(and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone tell me
what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the
news this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to
replace the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would
still be available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in
shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have made it available
for purchase, or if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't
sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Joe,

You mean the brackets?? [[ ]]

I use those instead of "quotes" to show that whatever are inside the
[[brackets]] are not my words.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
Thanks for the links--I will need some time to digest it all.
Still, or even more confused about the posting questions, esp. with
all the repost character indications in your reply, unless it was a
cut and paste.

Thanks,
Joe
"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:fcwKc.123225$XM6.12193@attbi_s53...
Hadn't run across a post asking about unknown devices before.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Well, well.....why did you wait so long. Nice, very nice! )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:wuiKc.81039$WX.54799@attbi_s51...
Kelly,

Oh, I've had this for a while. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Nice find, Wes. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:NZdKc.104007$IQ4.54995@attbi_s02...
Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in
Device Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the
nature of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In
particular, having installed XP P everything that I put on it
when I assembled the machine, including all the onboard devices
(mdb) which are BIOS enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but
additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI
bus with absolutely no information as to what it may be except
that it uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus
controller' also hanging off the PCI bus with no information as
to what it is. When not viewed by connection, but by type, they
are both hung under '?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching
the NG subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence
of 'unknown' and 'device' when I noticed that although on the
first pass I found a post with such content in its header dated
7/9/04, when I tried to locate it in context of a thread, it
disappeared, then I was unable to locate it with the Edit
search, and *then* I noticed that there was only ONE post with
a header dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I had seen
previously. Can anyone tell me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the
news this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to
replace the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would
still be available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in
shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have made it available
for purchase, or if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't
sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Joe,

I can't help with the *.inf problem. I had to buy a new modem because of a
similar problem.

You lost me, what needs to be run from a "DOS" box?
-------------------------

I just updated pcidevs.txt myself.

Latest pcidevs.txt. [[This is version 481 of this file; 15-07-2004
(D-M-Y).]]
Available he
http://members.datafast.net.au/~dft0802/downloads.htm

Craig's PCI & PnP ID's Pages
http://members.datafast.net.au/~dft0802/

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
I did try your suggested application, and found it of some use,
mainly in that it gives a more detailed listing of all drivers and
their IDs, etc., and in this particular case the 'details' provided
the information that the chipset manufacturer for both cases was
Nvidia, and the OEM for the 'Unknown device' was GigaByte
Technologies, as well. The mbd is a GigaByte, and it uses an Nvidia
chipset, so it appeared that for some reason the installation of the
OEM drivers hadn't completed. Further hunting in the links (Kelly's,
I think it was) you supplied suggested the use of the enhanced detail
tab in Dev Mgr, which I found gave exhaustive details on what was
available, enough to suggest that the 'Unknown device' was looking
for a hardware id of _NVRAIDBUS, or variant thereof. This suggested
that the BIOS disable wasn't sufficient to take care of the unused
functions of the chipset, so, after a few rounds of the
'uninstall'--'Windows has found new hardware' game, it finally
took care of those two. But since, in the process of enabling things,
I decided to enable the ethernet function, since it is counted into
the total for activation, which I have not yet done (OEM XP), I then
came to the interesting difficulty that WinXP didn't like the OEM
supplied .inf file for the controller and refused to install it. I
don't yet know whether it is a GigaByte, Nvidia, or someone
else-supplied problem, but at least I'm down from two problems
(that I knew about) to one (that I didn't know about)! In short, for
your kb, the program worked as claimed, gave some information, but I
found the XP function (detail tab)
provided more details. I only wish it didn't need to be run in a DOS
box to get the functionality in Dev Mgr.

Thanks very much,
Joe
"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:V3DKc.109766$JR4.40252@attbi_s54...
Joe,

You mean the brackets?? [[ ]]

I use those instead of "quotes" to show that whatever are inside the
[[brackets]] are not my words.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Wesley,
Thanks for the links--I will need some time to digest it all.
Still, or even more confused about the posting questions, esp. with
all the repost character indications in your reply, unless it was a
cut and paste.

Thanks,
Joe
"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:fcwKc.123225$XM6.12193@attbi_s53...
Hadn't run across a post asking about unknown devices before.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Well, well.....why did you wait so long. Nice, very nice! )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
news:wuiKc.81039$WX.54799@attbi_s51...
Kelly,

Oh, I've had this for a while. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
Kelly hunted and pecked:
Nice find, Wes. )

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
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"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message
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Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in
Device Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


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Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the
nature of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for?
In particular, having installed XP P everything that I put on
it when I assembled the machine, including all the onboard
devices (mdb) which are BIOS enabled all show up just fine in
DevMgr but additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached
to the PCI bus with absolutely no information as to what it
may be except that it uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and
an 'SM bus controller' also hanging off the PCI bus with no
information as to what it is. When not viewed by connection,
but by type, they are both hung under '?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was
searching the NG subject headers with the OE edit function
for incidence of 'unknown' and 'device' when I noticed that
although on the first pass I found a post with such content
in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to locate it in
context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable to
locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I noticed that
there was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04 (and it
wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone tell me
what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the
news this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal
to replace the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it
would still be available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost
no time in shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have
made it available for purchase, or if not that, for beta
evaluation? This doesn't sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Generally, going to Start/Control Panel/Add New Hardware, it will prompt you
for what it is looking for, foremost.

Added info: SM Bus Controller
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"jt3" wrote in message
...
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature of
'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular, having
installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled the machine,
including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS enabled all show up
just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached
to the PCI bus with absolutely no information as to what it may be except
that it uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is. When not
viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung under '?Other
Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown' and
'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a post
with
such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to locate it in
context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable to locate it with
the
Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there was only ONE post with a
header
dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone
tell
me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news this
AM,
I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace the brain-dead
native OE facility) to see if it would still be available, and of course,
it
wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have
made it available for purchase, or if not that, for beta evaluation? This
doesn't sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Generally, going to Start/Control Panel/Add New Hardware, it will prompt you
for what it is looking for, foremost.

Added info: SM Bus Controller
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"jt3" wrote in message
...
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature of
'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular, having
installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled the machine,
including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS enabled all show up
just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached
to the PCI bus with absolutely no information as to what it may be except
that it uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is. When not
viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung under '?Other
Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown' and
'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a post
with
such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to locate it in
context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable to locate it with
the
Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there was only ONE post with a
header
dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone
tell
me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news this
AM,
I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace the brain-dead
native OE facility) to see if it would still be available, and of course,
it
wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have
made it available for purchase, or if not that, for beta evaluation? This
doesn't sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Generally, going to Start/Control Panel/Add New Hardware, it will prompt you
for what it is looking for, foremost.

Added info: SM Bus Controller
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"jt3" wrote in message
...
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature of
'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular, having
installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled the machine,
including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS enabled all show up
just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an 'Unknown Device' attached
to the PCI bus with absolutely no information as to what it may be except
that it uses resources of I/O range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also
hanging off the PCI bus with no information as to what it is. When not
viewed by connection, but by type, they are both hung under '?Other
Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown' and
'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a post
with
such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to locate it in
context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable to locate it with
the
Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there was only ONE post with a
header
dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I had seen previously. Can anyone
tell
me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news this
AM,
I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace the brain-dead
native OE facility) to see if it would still be available, and of course,
it
wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it down. Couldn't they at least have
made it available for purchase, or if not that, for beta evaluation? This
doesn't sound like good relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in Device
Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature
of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular,
having installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled
the machine, including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS
enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an
'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI bus with absolutely no
information as to what it may be except that it uses resources of I/O
range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also hanging off the PCI bus
with no information as to what it is. When not viewed by connection,
but by type, they are both hung under '?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown'
and 'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a
post with such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to
locate it in context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable
to locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there
was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I
had seen previously. Can anyone tell me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news
this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace
the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would still be
available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it
down. Couldn't they at least have made it available for purchase, or
if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't sound like good
relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe

Unknown Devices
[[Unknown Devices helps you find what those unknown devices in Device
Manager really are.]]
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In ,
jt3 hunted and pecked:
Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to discover the nature
of 'Unknown Device' when everything is accounted for? In particular,
having installed XP P everything that I put on it when I assembled
the machine, including all the onboard devices (mdb) which are BIOS
enabled all show up just fine in DevMgr but additionally there is an
'Unknown Device' attached to the PCI bus with absolutely no
information as to what it may be except that it uses resources of I/O
range 04D2h, and an 'SM bus controller' also hanging off the PCI bus
with no information as to what it is. When not viewed by connection,
but by type, they are both hung under '?Other Devices'.

Unrelated to the above, except by accident, I was searching the NG
subject headers with the OE edit function for incidence of 'unknown'
and 'device' when I noticed that although on the first pass I found a
post with such content in its header dated 7/9/04, when I tried to
locate it in context of a thread, it disappeared, then I was unable
to locate it with the Edit search, and *then* I noticed that there
was only ONE post with a header dated 7/9/04 (and it wasn't the one I
had seen previously. Can anyone tell me what gives with this?

Finally, having noticed the sale of 'LookOut' to MS in the news
this AM, I went to the web site (since it sounded ideal to replace
the brain-dead native OE facility) to see if it would still be
available, and of course, it wasn't, MS lost no time in shutting it
down. Couldn't they at least have made it available for purchase, or
if not that, for beta evaluation? This doesn't sound like good
relations to me.

Thanks for any suggestions on the Unk Dev.
Joe