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The file to be deleted is: not locked, attribut normal, o byte The exception here is that it's filename ended with a space. Filename "25 The " explorer.exe gives the following message when the action is to delete it: Impossible de supprimer fichier: impossible de lire à partir du fichier ou de la disquette source This can be translated as: Impossible to delete file: Impossible to read from file or from diskette source After a Google search I did the following (resulting messages are translated): del "25 The " del "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " Impossible to find ... 25 The chkdsk /f c: problem still persistant C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "25 The " C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " No message RmDir \\.\C:\prob /s /q 25 The - Le fichier spécifié est introuvable. 25 The - Specified file can not be found C:\SysinternalsSuite\sdelete.exe ".\25 The " No files found that match Boot with safety mode + del Impossible to find hardlinkcreate.exe ".\bof.txt" ".\25 The " Specified file (2) can not be found fsutil file createnew ".\25 The " 0 25 The created. The file created here is "25 The" not "25 The ". From my humble opinion a direct intervention in NTFS is the only way to go. But I don't know how. Someone can help me ? Thank you in advance. |
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Crest Teethgel wrote:
The file to be deleted is: not locked, attribut normal, o byte The exception here is that it's filename ended with a space. Filename "25 The " explorer.exe gives the following message when the action is to delete it: Impossible de supprimer fichier: impossible de lire à partir du fichier ou de la disquette source This can be translated as: Impossible to delete file: Impossible to read from file or from diskette source After a Google search I did the following (resulting messages are translated): del "25 The " del "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " Impossible to find ... 25 The chkdsk /f c: problem still persistant C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "25 The " C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " No message RmDir \\.\C:\prob /s /q 25 The - Le fichier spécifié est introuvable. 25 The - Specified file can not be found C:\SysinternalsSuite\sdelete.exe ".\25 The " No files found that match Boot with safety mode + del Impossible to find hardlinkcreate.exe ".\bof.txt" ".\25 The " Specified file (2) can not be found fsutil file createnew ".\25 The " 0 25 The created. The file created here is "25 The" not "25 The ". From my humble opinion a direct intervention in NTFS is the only way to go. But I don't know how. Someone can help me ? Thank you in advance. Try dragging the file from Explorer to the DEL command at the Command Prompt. Open Explorer.exe and navigate to the stubborn file, leave the Explorer Window open. Open a Command Prompt and type the following partial command: del "\\?\ Now, from Explorer highlight and grab the stubborn file and drag it to the Command Prompt and drop it at the end of the partial command. Pay attention to the "quotation marks", if there are spaces in the file name Explorer will automatically surround the path with quotation marks. Make sure that there is only on set of quotation marks, like so: del "\\?\C:\temp\New Text Document.txt" and *not* like this: "\\?\"C:\temp\New Text Document.txt" John |
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you might try running
check disk so that the fat can be reconciled to the file system. another thing you might try is booting into safe mode and try to delete the file. lastly, I recall a utility that deletes zero byte files from the disk. don't recall what it is anymore, but worth a try searching for the feature and see what utility has it. -- -- db·´¯`·...¸)))º DatabaseBen, Retired Professional ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This NNTP newsgroup is evolving to: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx "Crest Teethgel" crest@teethgel wrote in message newsp.vermq0ia1vz4pt@localhost... The file to be deleted is: not locked, attribut normal, o byte The exception here is that it's filename ended with a space. Filename "25 The " explorer.exe gives the following message when the action is to delete it: Impossible de supprimer fichier: impossible de lire Ã* partir du fichier ou de la disquette source This can be translated as: Impossible to delete file: Impossible to read from file or from diskette source After a Google search I did the following (resulting messages are translated): del "25 The " del "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " Impossible to find ... 25 The chkdsk /f c: problem still persistant C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "25 The " C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " No message RmDir \\.\C:\prob /s /q 25 The - Le fichier spécifié est introuvable. 25 The - Specified file can not be found C:\SysinternalsSuite\sdelete.exe ".\25 The " No files found that match Boot with safety mode + del Impossible to find hardlinkcreate.exe ".\bof.txt" ".\25 The " Specified file (2) can not be found fsutil file createnew ".\25 The " 0 25 The created. The file created here is "25 The" not "25 The ". From my humble opinion a direct intervention in NTFS is the only way to go. But I don't know how. Someone can help me ? Thank you in advance. |
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In message op.vermq0ia1vz4pt@localhost, Crest Teethgel
writes: The file to be deleted is: not locked, attribut normal, o byte The exception here is that it's filename ended with a space. Filename "25 The " [] Move all other files in the folder to a temporary folder, then del *.* perhaps? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
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Crest Teethgel wrote:
The file to be deleted is: not locked, attribut normal, o byte The exception here is that it's filename ended with a space. Filename "25 The " explorer.exe gives the following message when the action is to delete it: Impossible de supprimer fichier: impossible de lire à partir du fichier ou de la disquette source This can be translated as: Impossible to delete file: Impossible to read from file or from diskette source After a Google search I did the following (resulting messages are translated): del "25 The " del "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " Impossible to find ... 25 The chkdsk /f c: problem still persistant C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "25 The " C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " No message RmDir \\.\C:\prob /s /q 25 The - Le fichier spécifié est introuvable. 25 The - Specified file can not be found C:\SysinternalsSuite\sdelete.exe ".\25 The " No files found that match Boot with safety mode + del Impossible to find hardlinkcreate.exe ".\bof.txt" ".\25 The " Specified file (2) can not be found fsutil file createnew ".\25 The " 0 25 The created. The file created here is "25 The" not "25 The ". From my humble opinion a direct intervention in NTFS is the only way to go. But I don't know how. Someone can help me ? Thank you in advance. Some of the things you've tried, are described here. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320081 NTFS stores file names in Unicode. Perhaps the file name is not exactly "25 The " as you expect ? Could it be, that a non-printable character is also in the file name ? That might be the problem, rather than the space character at the end of the name. Paul |
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Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:46:28 -0400, John John - MVP wrote:
Try dragging the file from Explorer to the DEL command at the Command Prompt. Open Explorer.exe and navigate to the stubborn file, leave the Explorer Window open. Open a Command Prompt and type the following partial command: del "\\?\ Now, from Explorer highlight and grab the stubborn file and drag it to the Command Prompt and drop it at the end of the partial command. Pay attention to the "quotation marks", if there are spaces in the file name Explorer will automatically surround the path with quotation marks. Make sure that there is only on set of quotation marks, like so: del "\\?\C:\temp\New Text Document.txt" and *not* like this: "\\?\"C:\temp\New Text Document.txt" From what I understood the UNC (Uniform Naming Convention) syntax could relieve some windows command from faulty filename. The example given was: del \\.\path\filename.ext Since my PC is not on a network the initial dot stands for localhost. And that command failed to remove the file. But with your syntax \\?\\path\filename. It works just fine. The ^%$#@ file is deleted. You can put this case in your well resolded pool !!! You deserve your MVP certificate. Can you tell me where I can learn more about UNC ? What does meen the ? instead of . for server identification ? Thanks again Jean-François |
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Paul wrote:
Crest Teethgel wrote: The file to be deleted is: not locked, attribut normal, o byte The exception here is that it's filename ended with a space. Filename "25 The " explorer.exe gives the following message when the action is to delete it: Impossible de supprimer fichier: impossible de lire à partir du fichier ou de la disquette source This can be translated as: Impossible to delete file: Impossible to read from file or from diskette source After a Google search I did the following (resulting messages are translated): del "25 The " del "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " Impossible to find ... 25 The chkdsk /f c: problem still persistant C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "25 The " C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " No message RmDir \\.\C:\prob /s /q 25 The - Le fichier spécifié est introuvable. 25 The - Specified file can not be found C:\SysinternalsSuite\sdelete.exe ".\25 The " No files found that match Boot with safety mode + del Impossible to find hardlinkcreate.exe ".\bof.txt" ".\25 The " Specified file (2) can not be found fsutil file createnew ".\25 The " 0 25 The created. The file created here is "25 The" not "25 The ". From my humble opinion a direct intervention in NTFS is the only way to go. But I don't know how. Someone can help me ? Thank you in advance. Some of the things you've tried, are described here. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320081 NTFS stores file names in Unicode. Perhaps the file name is not exactly "25 The " as you expect ? Could it be, that a non-printable character is also in the file name ? That might be the problem, rather than the space character at the end of the name. Paul To test what the real file name might be, I tried some testing in a VirtualPC session. I have Win2K running in a virtual machine. I created an NTFS virtual disk in there, and put a few files on it at the root level. Next, I booted the same virtual machine, using a Linux LiveCD (Knoppix 6.2.1), and used the ntfsinfo command, which is part of some ntfs utilities. It is already included on the CD, and doesn't need to be installed with package manager or anything. This is the command that worked for me, to give an example of the syntax. ntfsinfo -v -F / -d /dev/sdb1 The disk is not mounted in Linux, while running the command. If the file explorer window is currently showing the contents of the disk, you'd right click the disk icon and select an unmount option, to unmount it. Now, path names are referenced to the root level of the disk. In this example, by using the -v verbose option, the program will dump the file names of all the files in the "/" directory. If you were working in C:\some\directory , then you'd use -F /some/directory to list the directory contents. You still have to figure out the raw device name, which in my virtual example was /dev/sdb1. The "1" indicates in this example, that it was the first partition on the sdb disk device. So I can use that program, as an example of dumping detailed information about the files. I can get both the long file name and the short file name, using that method. Perhaps the file could be deleted, using its short file name (8.3 style). The weird part is, the execution of that command, does not give me the impression it could handle Unicode, but I don't really know how to fake a good Unicode example to work with :-) Paul |
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Crest Teethgel wrote:
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:46:28 -0400, John John - MVP wrote: Try dragging the file from Explorer to the DEL command at the Command Prompt. Open Explorer.exe and navigate to the stubborn file, leave the Explorer Window open. Open a Command Prompt and type the following partial command: del "\\?\ Now, from Explorer highlight and grab the stubborn file and drag it to the Command Prompt and drop it at the end of the partial command. Pay attention to the "quotation marks", if there are spaces in the file name Explorer will automatically surround the path with quotation marks. Make sure that there is only on set of quotation marks, like so: del "\\?\C:\temp\New Text Document.txt" and *not* like this: "\\?\"C:\temp\New Text Document.txt" From what I understood the UNC (Uniform Naming Convention) syntax could relieve some windows command from faulty filename. The example given was: del \\.\path\filename.ext Since my PC is not on a network the initial dot stands for localhost. And that command failed to remove the file. But with your syntax \\?\\path\filename. It works just fine. The ^%$#@ file is deleted. You can put this case in your well resolded pool !!! You deserve your MVP certificate. Can you tell me where I can learn more about UNC ? What does meen the ? instead of . for server identification ? It bypasses the Win32 reserved name check. Dropping the file to the command prompt is effective when dealing with special characters or trailing spaces. Thanks again You're welcome. John |
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You might also try a "wildcard" to delete the file, e.g. go into Safe Mode,
open a command prompt, cd to the folder and use "del 25*.*" (note the space after 25). God, miss the old days and Norton Utilities where could easily just do the low level edit on the filename stored on the hard disk. "Db" wrote in message ... you might try running check disk so that the fat can be reconciled to the file system. another thing you might try is booting into safe mode and try to delete the file. lastly, I recall a utility that deletes zero byte files from the disk. don't recall what it is anymore, but worth a try searching for the feature and see what utility has it. -- -- db·´¯`·...¸)))º DatabaseBen, Retired Professional ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This NNTP newsgroup is evolving to: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx "Crest Teethgel" crest@teethgel wrote in message newsp.vermq0ia1vz4pt@localhost... The file to be deleted is: not locked, attribut normal, o byte The exception here is that it's filename ended with a space. Filename "25 The " explorer.exe gives the following message when the action is to delete it: Impossible de supprimer fichier: impossible de lire à partir du fichier ou de la disquette source This can be translated as: Impossible to delete file: Impossible to read from file or from diskette source After a Google search I did the following (resulting messages are translated): del "25 The " del "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " Impossible to find ... 25 The chkdsk /f c: problem still persistant C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "25 The " C:\gnuwin32\bin\rm -f "\\.\c:\prob\25 The " No message RmDir \\.\C:\prob /s /q 25 The - Le fichier spécifié est introuvable. 25 The - Specified file can not be found C:\SysinternalsSuite\sdelete.exe ".\25 The " No files found that match Boot with safety mode + del Impossible to find hardlinkcreate.exe ".\bof.txt" ".\25 The " Specified file (2) can not be found fsutil file createnew ".\25 The " 0 25 The created. The file created here is "25 The" not "25 The ". From my humble opinion a direct intervention in NTFS is the only way to go. But I don't know how. Someone can help me ? Thank you in advance. |
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Boot with a Ubuntu Live CD and delete the file from outside Windows.
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