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  #16  
Old July 18th 18, 07:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Bit more here as I only have USB2, but principle agreed.


A USB3 card would help a bit.

Laptops don't always give you much in the
way of options. On some machines here, my
best option is to back up via file sharing.
(GbE being faster than USB2.)

Paul
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  #17  
Old July 18th 18, 07:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Ed Cryer wrote:
Boris wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote in newsinbuk$imh$1@dont-
email.me:

Boris wrote:



I have 1.271.1173.0 for both, updated 7 mins ago.

Ed


Got up this morning, and I still have 1.271.1140.0 running the show, but
1.271.1166.0 waiting in the wings.


Blimey! I just did a Windows Update check and got 1.271.1182.0.

This all points to an inescapable conclusion. MS are releasing every new
added virus definition as an update! And an "important" update! And it
depends entirely on your local check-for-updates setting as to how
frequently you get them.
I think my update-checker calls in once a day. If I ever get any
indication that it's doing it more often, I'll do a system restore
immediately, and then find the offending KB and hide it.

Ed


https://www.thewindowsclub.com/autom...tion-frequency

"The Windows operating system is set to check if Windows Updates
are available periodically. By default, such checks are set at
every 22 hours. In practice, however, the checks may take place
anytime between 17.6 hours and 22 hours. But you can make Windows
check for Updates faster."

So there's something for you to check.

Paul
  #18  
Old July 18th 18, 10:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ed Cryer
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Boris wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote in news
Boris wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote in newsinbuk$imh$1@dont-
email.me:

Boris wrote:



I have 1.271.1173.0 for both, updated 7 mins ago.

Ed


Got up this morning, and I still have 1.271.1140.0 running the show, but
1.271.1166.0 waiting in the wings.


Blimey! I just did a Windows Update check and got 1.271.1182.0.

This all points to an inescapable conclusion. MS are releasing every new
added virus definition as an update! And an "important" update! And it
depends entirely on your local check-for-updates setting as to how
frequently you get them.
I think my update-checker calls in once a day. If I ever get any
indication that it's doing it more often, I'll do a system restore
immediately, and then find the offending KB and hide it.

Ed



Ed,

Are you manually installing the MSE updates that appear in your Windows
Update? If so, do they then appear in your "View update history" window?

For me, I have never manually installed a MSE update that appeared in my
Windows Update. All the MSE updates that appear in my "View update history"
have gotten there on their own, and have never appeared in my Windows Update.

My MSE scheduled scan is set for "Around: 1:00 PM", and "Check for the latest
virus and spyware definitionis before running a scheduled scan".

I just noticed that on the Home tab of my MSE, "Last scan: 7/17/2018 PM",
which is the exact time that 1.271.1136.0 shows as the time it was installed
in View update history.

Because only MSE updates that appear in the MSE program show up installed in
View update history, and none of the MSE updates in Windows Updates ever do
show up in View update history, I suspect that it's the MSE program, that is
set to look for updates right before running it's scheduled scan at around
1:00 PM, if it finds an update, it installs it, making it show up in View
update history.

Then (and this is entirely speculation), the MSE update that was in Windows
Update disappears after the next look for Windows updates, since the MSE
update now installed is newer than the one sitting in Windows Update.

Why are there are sometimes two MSE updates in View update history? I'd have
to noodle that one some more.

In the end, I think this is one of those much-a-do about nothings. I think
we'd spend a lot of time, but eventually figure this out, then not make any
settings or configuration changes, and then forget about it all together in a
week or so.

Perhaps of some interest:

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1jmw3q36k/

Boris


My settings have scheduled scan switched off.
Your having a daily scan scheduled fulfils the daily download of updates.

I don't have any duplicate installs of definitions. And I can't figure
out why you do. Perhaps it's the clash of having two different MS
programs checking for updates daily. I've switched on a daily scan at
1-00pm; to see what happens.

Ed

  #19  
Old July 18th 18, 11:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Bit more here as I only have USB2, but principle agreed.


A USB3 card would help a bit.

Laptops don't always give you much in the
way of options. On some machines here, my
best option is to back up via file sharing.
(GbE being faster than USB2.)

Paul


I don't _think_ this laptop has a card slot (other than an SD one).
--
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has made them rise above the guys who criticize!" (W9BRD, former editor of
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  #20  
Old July 19th 18, 10:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ed Cryer
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Boris wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote in newsioamu$v61$1@dont-
email.me:

Boris wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote in newsinv6a$io0$1@dont-

email.me:

Boris wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote in newsinbuk$imh$1@dont-
email.me:

Boris wrote:


I have 1.271.1173.0 for both, updated 7 mins ago.

Ed


Got up this morning, and I still have 1.271.1140.0 running the show,

but
1.271.1166.0 waiting in the wings.


Blimey! I just did a Windows Update check and got 1.271.1182.0.

This all points to an inescapable conclusion. MS are releasing every

new
added virus definition as an update! And an "important" update! And it
depends entirely on your local check-for-updates setting as to how
frequently you get them.
I think my update-checker calls in once a day. If I ever get any
indication that it's doing it more often, I'll do a system restore
immediately, and then find the offending KB and hide it.

Ed



Ed,

Are you manually installing the MSE updates that appear in your Windows
Update? If so, do they then appear in your "View update history"

window?

For me, I have never manually installed a MSE update that appeared in

my
Windows Update. All the MSE updates that appear in my "View update

history"
have gotten there on their own, and have never appeared in my Windows

Update.

My MSE scheduled scan is set for "Around: 1:00 PM", and "Check for the

latest
virus and spyware definitionis before running a scheduled scan".

I just noticed that on the Home tab of my MSE, "Last scan: 7/17/2018

PM",
which is the exact time that 1.271.1136.0 shows as the time it was

installed
in View update history.

Because only MSE updates that appear in the MSE program show up

installed in
View update history, and none of the MSE updates in Windows Updates

ever do
show up in View update history, I suspect that it's the MSE program,

that is
set to look for updates right before running it's scheduled scan at

around
1:00 PM, if it finds an update, it installs it, making it show up in

View
update history.

Then (and this is entirely speculation), the MSE update that was in

Windows
Update disappears after the next look for Windows updates, since the

MSE
update now installed is newer than the one sitting in Windows Update.

Why are there are sometimes two MSE updates in View update history?

I'd have
to noodle that one some more.

In the end, I think this is one of those much-a-do about nothings. I

think
we'd spend a lot of time, but eventually figure this out, then not make

any
settings or configuration changes, and then forget about it all

together in a
week or so.

Perhaps of some interest:

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1jmw3q36k/

Boris


My settings have scheduled scan switched off.
Your having a daily scan scheduled fulfils the daily download of

updates.

I don't have any duplicate installs of definitions. And I can't figure
out why you do. Perhaps it's the clash of having two different MS
programs checking for updates daily. I've switched on a daily scan at
1-00pm; to see what happens.

Ed



Thanks for trying that. I now have 1.271.1182.0 installed at 1:18PM, the
exact time that the MSE program tells me it did it's last scan, and the
MSE update that was sitting in Windows Update has disappeared, as
expected.

I have turned off scheduled scans to see what happens here.


Here's a cute, amusing comment on MSE updates.
My Reliability Monitor contains nothing more than daily informational
events about them;
https://goo.gl/K25H5w

Ed

  #21  
Old July 22nd 18, 09:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
No_Name
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For whatever it might be worth :

7/21/18
Important
2018-07
Security Monthly Quality Rollup
for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems
KB 4338818 ( failed )

7/21/18
Optional
2018-07
Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup
for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems
KB 4338821 ( failed )
 




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