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Old April 16th 03, 01:09 AM
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Default Disaster recovery options - complex ??

During the NT4 days a sugested method for full disaster recovey was to
install a
dual boot NT4 system on the same hard drive. One system being the main
working system ( I'll call this NT4[1]) and the other being a minimum
install ( I'll call this NT4[2]) for purely backup purposes. Then boot from
NT4[2] and do a tape backup of all but the NT4[2] folder - keep this safe
for disaster recovery and always boot to NT4[1] for normal use and boot to
NT4[2] if recovery is needed. The main system 'files in use' problem would
not occur during backup of NT4[1] because that OS would not be active at the
time of the backup when booted to NT4[2]. This arrangement would not appear
to contravene licencing agreements as NT is only installed on one PC and
plainly only one installation can be used at any one time - I know there are
some slight risks in this strategy for disaster recovery but these are
acceptable. I used this method previously - luckily not in a real recovery
situation but the proc was proven.
Having recently bought XP and after visiting the various XP newsgroups over
a period of time I am convinced that a disaster recovery procedure (full
recovery not just the OS) will be
needed sometime in the (not too distant) future and I need to have a
procedure in place to cope. Perhaps this is a comonly held view of users of
the OS and if so could be a reflection of its percieved reliability.
Now I have XP installed ( and activated ) but of course I can't install the
OS again on the same PC and the same HDD for a dual boot ( to do the above)
because of the activation process, or certainly not in within a short time
of initial activation and I need a full recovery procedure documented ASAP.
I am using XP Home for this example so what is the best disaster recovery
option. When I installed XP I formatted to NTFS which, from what I read, is
incompatible with the earlier NT4 NTFS so a dual boot with NT4 as the backup
system is not an option unless I wipe and reinstall making the NT4 NTFS the
first install. Then I would need to reactivate XP, and this within a month
of its
initial activation and only due to OS doubts learned since install.

What would be the best disaster recovery (FULL RECOVERY not just OS)
procedure to implement. I'm not in the
market to go XP Pro purely for the ability to overcome any reliabilty
shortcommings there may (or may not) be in Home, I'd go back to reliable
NT4WS
or Linux first and put XP down as a 'learning experience'. NT4WS didnt raise
these doubts.

Come on Nicolas get your head round this.

Any suggestions from anyone welcome and thanks in advance.




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  #2  
Old April 16th 03, 01:21 AM
mrtee
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Default Disaster recovery options - complex ??


ASR Automated System Restore
1. Use Backup to Restore Files and Folders on Your Computer in Windows =
XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q309340

2. An Error Message Is Displayed When You Attempt to Use the Automated =
System Recovery Wizard =
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q302700

3. Cannot Restore Backups That You Create in Windows 95, Windows 98, =
or Windows Me with the Windows XP Ntbackup Tool =
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q305381

4. Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer in =
Windows XP =
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q308422
--=20
Just my 2=A2 worth
Jeff
_____in response to_____
"-0-" wrote in message =
...
| During the NT4 days a sugested method for full disaster recovey was to
| install a
| dual boot NT4 system on the same hard drive. One system being the main
| working system ( I'll call this NT4[1]) and the other being a minimum
| install ( I'll call this NT4[2]) for purely backup purposes. Then boot =
from
| NT4[2] and do a tape backup of all but the NT4[2] folder - keep this =
safe
| for disaster recovery and always boot to NT4[1] for normal use and =
boot to
| NT4[2] if recovery is needed. The main system 'files in use' problem =
would
| not occur during backup of NT4[1] because that OS would not be active =
at the
| time of the backup when booted to NT4[2]. This arrangement would not =
appear
| to contravene licencing agreements as NT is only installed on one PC =
and
| plainly only one installation can be used at any one time - I know =
there are
| some slight risks in this strategy for disaster recovery but these are
| acceptable. I used this method previously - luckily not in a real =
recovery
| situation but the proc was proven.
| Having recently bought XP and after visiting the various XP newsgroups =
over
| a period of time I am convinced that a disaster recovery procedure =
(full
| recovery not just the OS) will be
| needed sometime in the (not too distant) future and I need to have a
| procedure in place to cope. Perhaps this is a comonly held view of =
users of
| the OS and if so could be a reflection of its percieved reliability.
| Now I have XP installed ( and activated ) but of course I can't =
install the
| OS again on the same PC and the same HDD for a dual boot ( to do the =
above)
| because of the activation process, or certainly not in within a short =
time
| of initial activation and I need a full recovery procedure documented =
ASAP.
| I am using XP Home for this example so what is the best disaster =
recovery
| option. When I installed XP I formatted to NTFS which, from what I =
read, is
| incompatible with the earlier NT4 NTFS so a dual boot with NT4 as the =
backup
| system is not an option unless I wipe and reinstall making the NT4 =
NTFS the
| first install. Then I would need to reactivate XP, and this within a =
month
| of its
| initial activation and only due to OS doubts learned since install.
|=20
| What would be the best disaster recovery (FULL RECOVERY not just OS)
| procedure to implement. I'm not in the
| market to go XP Pro purely for the ability to overcome any reliabilty
| shortcommings there may (or may not) be in Home, I'd go back to =
reliable
| NT4WS
| or Linux first and put XP down as a 'learning experience'. NT4WS didnt =
raise
| these doubts.
|=20
| Come on Nicolas get your head round this.
|=20
| Any suggestions from anyone welcome and thanks in advance.
|=20
|=20
|=20
|=20


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  #3  
Old April 16th 03, 01:34 AM
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Default Disaster recovery options - complex ??

Hi Jeff,
That was a very quick reply.

I realise that this is available in Pro but in Home ASR has doubts
about reliability from what I recall reading XP newsgroups. Will check
though and welcome other contributions.

thanks - Colin

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www.homes-fs.co.uk/
"mrtee" hingelickeratnew.rr.com wrote in message
...

ASR Automated System Restore
1. Use Backup to Restore Files and Folders on Your Computer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q309340

2. An Error Message Is Displayed When You Attempt to Use the Automated
System Recovery Wizard
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q302700

3. Cannot Restore Backups That You Create in Windows 95, Windows 98, or
Windows Me with the Windows XP Ntbackup Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q305381

4. Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer in
Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q308422
--
Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
_____in response to_____
"-0-" wrote in message
...
| During the NT4 days a sugested method for full disaster recovey was to
| install a
| dual boot NT4 system on the same hard drive. One system being the main
| working system ( I'll call this NT4[1]) and the other being a minimum
| install ( I'll call this NT4[2]) for purely backup purposes. Then boot
from
| NT4[2] and do a tape backup of all but the NT4[2] folder - keep this safe
| for disaster recovery and always boot to NT4[1] for normal use and boot to
| NT4[2] if recovery is needed. The main system 'files in use' problem would
| not occur during backup of NT4[1] because that OS would not be active at
the
| time of the backup when booted to NT4[2]. This arrangement would not
appear
| to contravene licencing agreements as NT is only installed on one PC and
| plainly only one installation can be used at any one time - I know there
are
| some slight risks in this strategy for disaster recovery but these are
| acceptable. I used this method previously - luckily not in a real recovery
| situation but the proc was proven.
| Having recently bought XP and after visiting the various XP newsgroups
over
| a period of time I am convinced that a disaster recovery procedure (full
| recovery not just the OS) will be
| needed sometime in the (not too distant) future and I need to have a
| procedure in place to cope. Perhaps this is a comonly held view of users
of
| the OS and if so could be a reflection of its percieved reliability.
| Now I have XP installed ( and activated ) but of course I can't install
the
| OS again on the same PC and the same HDD for a dual boot ( to do the
above)
| because of the activation process, or certainly not in within a short time
| of initial activation and I need a full recovery procedure documented
ASAP.
| I am using XP Home for this example so what is the best disaster recovery
| option. When I installed XP I formatted to NTFS which, from what I read,
is
| incompatible with the earlier NT4 NTFS so a dual boot with NT4 as the
backup
| system is not an option unless I wipe and reinstall making the NT4 NTFS
the
| first install. Then I would need to reactivate XP, and this within a month
| of its
| initial activation and only due to OS doubts learned since install.
|
| What would be the best disaster recovery (FULL RECOVERY not just OS)
| procedure to implement. I'm not in the
| market to go XP Pro purely for the ability to overcome any reliabilty
| shortcommings there may (or may not) be in Home, I'd go back to reliable
| NT4WS
| or Linux first and put XP down as a 'learning experience'. NT4WS didnt
raise
| these doubts.
|
| Come on Nicolas get your head round this.
|
| Any suggestions from anyone welcome and thanks in advance.
|
|
|
|


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  #4  
Old April 16th 03, 01:53 AM
mrtee
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Default Disaster recovery options - complex ??

There is information in the list that applies to XP home.

--=20
Just my 2=A2 worth
Jeff
_____in response to_____
"-0-" wrote in message =
...
| Hi Jeff,
| That was a very quick reply.
|=20
| I realise that this is available in Pro but in Home ASR has =
doubts
| about reliability from what I recall reading XP newsgroups. Will =
check
| though and welcome other contributions.
|=20
| thanks - Colin
|=20
| --
| Looking to sell or buy a home in the North West - visit my website -
| www.homes-fs.co.uk/
|


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