Disk space

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:150726

My Commodore 64 of course.

Testy

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Sooo, what did you have it hooked to? Please don't respond with the use of
names of any personal body parts.

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
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I still remember my sense of excitement and amazement hooking up my
first
1200 Baud.

testy

"Tom Swift" wrote in message
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Well I remember the days before modems, when you had to place the
telephone
receiver into an acoustic coupler. Those were the days when 300 baud
was
fast.

Tom Swift

"Testy" wrote in message
...
On which of my computers? I have XP Pro, 2000 Pro, 2003 Server, 2000
Advanced Server, Win 98 and 95, a Commodore 64 and a MAC Powerbook
with
OS
9.2. Have a
drawer full of old equipment. Even have an original Pong machine.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
What version of Window are the running?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Yes.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Oh, then, you have HD's that are 15 years old?

"Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every system I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD fail
due
to
this."

JAX


"Testy" wrote in message
...
I have had two HD fail both within 30 days of purchase.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
How can you possibly determine, for sure, that unnecessary
reader
movement
was not a factor in HD failure. Or, come to think of it,
have
you
never
had
one fail?...Right

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every
system
I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD
fail
due
to
this.

Testy


"Tom Swift" wrote in
message
...
The physical movement of the heads back and forth is
what
causes
the
hit,
to
say nothing of unnecessary additional wear.

Tom Swift

"Testy" wrote in message
...
With the speed of modern HD's it would not be
noticeable,
unless
you
can
see
milliseconds.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Moving the page file to a different partition on
the
same
HD
causes
a
performance hit due to the fact the head is
constantly
moving
back
and
forth
to write to/read from it.

JAX

"Battleax" wrote in
message
...

"JAX" wrote in
message
...
It is possible to run XP on that size
partition,
with
that
much
free
space,
I've done it but, it is too complicated for
most
users
to
keep
it
running
that way.


The original poster could move the swap file to
D:,
that
could
free
up
a
few
hunderd megs.
B






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Well friends, this thread has gone on long enough for me, and what a long
strange trip it's been. TTFN

Tom Swift

"JAX" wrote in message
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Damn, you're getting old!!

JAX

"Tom Swift" wrote in message
...
Well I remember the days before modems, when you had to place the
telephone
receiver into an acoustic coupler. Those were the days when 300 baud was
fast.

Tom Swift

"Testy" wrote in message
...
On which of my computers? I have XP Pro, 2000 Pro, 2003 Server, 2000
Advanced Server, Win 98 and 95, a Commodore 64 and a MAC Powerbook
with
OS
9.2. Have a
drawer full of old equipment. Even have an original Pong machine.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
What version of Window are the running?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Yes.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Oh, then, you have HD's that are 15 years old?

"Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every system I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD fail due
to
this."

JAX


"Testy" wrote in message
...
I have had two HD fail both within 30 days of purchase.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
How can you possibly determine, for sure, that unnecessary
reader
movement
was not a factor in HD failure. Or, come to think of it,
have
you
never
had
one fail?...Right

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every
system
I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD
fail
due
to
this.

Testy


"Tom Swift" wrote in
message
...
The physical movement of the heads back and forth is
what
causes
the
hit,
to
say nothing of unnecessary additional wear.

Tom Swift

"Testy" wrote in message
...
With the speed of modern HD's it would not be
noticeable,
unless
you
can
see
milliseconds.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Moving the page file to a different partition on the
same
HD
causes
a
performance hit due to the fact the head is
constantly
moving
back
and
forth
to write to/read from it.

JAX

"Battleax" wrote in
message
...

"JAX" wrote in message
...
It is possible to run XP on that size partition,
with
that
much
free
space,
I've done it but, it is too complicated for most
users
to
keep
it
running
that way.


The original poster could move the swap file to
D:,
that
could
free
up
a
few
hunderd megs.
B






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Agreed. It must have been the mushrooms.....ciao.

Testy

"Tom Swift" wrote in message
...
Well friends, this thread has gone on long enough for me, and what a long
strange trip it's been. TTFN

Tom Swift

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Damn, you're getting old!!

JAX

"Tom Swift" wrote in message
...
Well I remember the days before modems, when you had to place the
telephone
receiver into an acoustic coupler. Those were the days when 300 baud
was
fast.

Tom Swift

"Testy" wrote in message
...
On which of my computers? I have XP Pro, 2000 Pro, 2003 Server, 2000
Advanced Server, Win 98 and 95, a Commodore 64 and a MAC Powerbook
with
OS
9.2. Have a
drawer full of old equipment. Even have an original Pong machine.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
What version of Window are the running?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Yes.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Oh, then, you have HD's that are 15 years old?

"Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every system I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD fail
due
to
this."

JAX


"Testy" wrote in message
...
I have had two HD fail both within 30 days of purchase.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
How can you possibly determine, for sure, that unnecessary
reader
movement
was not a factor in HD failure. Or, come to think of it,
have
you
never
had
one fail?...Right

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every
system
I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD
fail
due
to
this.

Testy


"Tom Swift" wrote in
message
...
The physical movement of the heads back and forth is
what
causes
the
hit,
to
say nothing of unnecessary additional wear.

Tom Swift

"Testy" wrote in message
...
With the speed of modern HD's it would not be
noticeable,
unless
you
can
see
milliseconds.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Moving the page file to a different partition on
the
same
HD
causes
a
performance hit due to the fact the head is
constantly
moving
back
and
forth
to write to/read from it.

JAX

"Battleax" wrote in
message
...

"JAX" wrote in
message
...
It is possible to run XP on that size
partition,
with
that
much
free
space,
I've done it but, it is too complicated for
most
users
to
keep
it
running
that way.


The original poster could move the swap file to
D:,
that
could
free
up
a
few
hunderd megs.
B






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If you have nothing to say that will help, why don't you just read what the
rest of us have to say, of course, just for you're own amusement and quit
posting at all?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Occasionally I do. Most times though I charge $75 per hour so I balk at
giving free advice.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
With all that equipment and experience, why do you never have anything
to
say that is constructive? All you ever post is something to try and
"slam"
others who are, at least, trying to help someone who is having a problem
with their computer.

Those of us who, are less knowledgeable than you, are offering the best
we
can. Most all are none destructive suggestions. What suggestions have
you
made?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
On which of my computers? I have XP Pro, 2000 Pro, 2003 Server, 2000
Advanced Server, Win 98 and 95, a Commodore 64 and a MAC Powerbook
with
OS
9.2. Have a
drawer full of old equipment. Even have an original Pong machine.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
What version of Window are the running?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Yes.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Oh, then, you have HD's that are 15 years old?

"Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every system I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD fail due
to
this."

JAX


"Testy" wrote in message
...
I have had two HD fail both within 30 days of purchase.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
How can you possibly determine, for sure, that unnecessary
reader
movement
was not a factor in HD failure. Or, come to think of it,
have
you
never
had
one fail?...Right

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every
system
I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD
fail
due
to
this.

Testy


"Tom Swift" wrote in
message
...
The physical movement of the heads back and forth is
what
causes
the
hit,
to
say nothing of unnecessary additional wear.

Tom Swift

"Testy" wrote in message
...
With the speed of modern HD's it would not be
noticeable,
unless
you
can
see
milliseconds.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Moving the page file to a different partition on the
same
HD
causes
a
performance hit due to the fact the head is
constantly
moving
back
and
forth
to write to/read from it.

JAX

"Battleax" wrote in
message
...

"JAX" wrote in message
...
It is possible to run XP on that size partition,
with
that
much
free
space,
I've done it but, it is too complicated for most
users
to
keep
it
running
that way.


The original poster could move the swap file to
D:,
that
could
free
up
a
few
hunderd megs.
B






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I will continue to correct your errors. Bye-Bye.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
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If you have nothing to say that will help, why don't you just read what
the
rest of us have to say, of course, just for you're own amusement and quit
posting at all?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Occasionally I do. Most times though I charge $75 per hour so I balk at
giving free advice.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
With all that equipment and experience, why do you never have anything
to
say that is constructive? All you ever post is something to try and
"slam"
others who are, at least, trying to help someone who is having a
problem
with their computer.

Those of us who, are less knowledgeable than you, are offering the
best
we
can. Most all are none destructive suggestions. What suggestions have
you
made?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
On which of my computers? I have XP Pro, 2000 Pro, 2003 Server, 2000
Advanced Server, Win 98 and 95, a Commodore 64 and a MAC Powerbook
with
OS
9.2. Have a
drawer full of old equipment. Even have an original Pong machine.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
What version of Window are the running?

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Yes.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Oh, then, you have HD's that are 15 years old?

"Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every system I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD fail
due
to
this."

JAX


"Testy" wrote in message
...
I have had two HD fail both within 30 days of purchase.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
How can you possibly determine, for sure, that unnecessary
reader
movement
was not a factor in HD failure. Or, come to think of it,
have
you
never
had
one fail?...Right

JAX

"Testy" wrote in message
...
Moving the pagefile is the first thing I do on every
system
I
install.
In
15+ years and over 350 installs I have yet to see a HD
fail
due
to
this.

Testy


"Tom Swift" wrote in
message
...
The physical movement of the heads back and forth is
what
causes
the
hit,
to
say nothing of unnecessary additional wear.

Tom Swift

"Testy" wrote in message
...
With the speed of modern HD's it would not be
noticeable,
unless
you
can
see
milliseconds.

Testy

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Moving the page file to a different partition on
the
same
HD
causes
a
performance hit due to the fact the head is
constantly
moving
back
and
forth
to write to/read from it.

JAX

"Battleax" wrote in
message
...

"JAX" wrote in
message
...
It is possible to run XP on that size
partition,
with
that
much
free
space,
I've done it but, it is too complicated for
most
users
to
keep
it
running
that way.


The original poster could move the swap file to
D:,
that
could
free
up
a
few
hunderd megs.
B






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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:07:11 -0800, "Aragorn"
wrote:

I'm not sure if I am posting this in the correct
newsgroup, but I still hope someone can help me out.

I partitioned my disk drive into two parts. One part of 3
GB and one for the rest. On the drive with 3 GB, I have
Windows XP installed. However, recently, Windows is
prompting me and saying I don't have enough space on that
drive. But even if I delete files, it doesn't really get
any better. Also, when I right-click on the drive, it
says I have about 100 MB free space (200 is minimum for
running smoothly according to the message). But when I
select all of the files on that drive, only 1.8 GB is
occupied. So over 1 GB seems to be 'lost'. Does anyone
know how to solve this problem?

Thanks.

You are probably not seeing the hidden and system files when you
R/click on the root of C: and display properties. Make sure you go
into files and folders properties in an explorer window and deselect
hide system and hidden files and folders.


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wrote:

Moving the page file to a different partition on the same HD causes a
performance hit due to the fact the head is constantly moving back and forth
to write to/read from it.

Bunk.
It don't matter. The page file is PHYSICALLY on another part of the
drive anyway, whether that be on C or D, it the same drive and the
read/write heads will have to move anyway.


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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:07:11 -0800, "Aragorn"
wrote:

I'm not sure if I am posting this in the correct
newsgroup, but I still hope someone can help me out.

I partitioned my disk drive into two parts. One part of 3
GB and one for the rest. On the drive with 3 GB, I have
Windows XP installed. However, recently, Windows is
prompting me and saying I don't have enough space on that
drive. But even if I delete files, it doesn't really get
any better. Also, when I right-click on the drive, it
says I have about 100 MB free space (200 is minimum for
running smoothly according to the message). But when I
select all of the files on that drive, only 1.8 GB is
occupied. So over 1 GB seems to be 'lost'. Does anyone
know how to solve this problem?

Thanks.

I don't know how large the rest of your hd is, but you may want to get
a prog called Partition Magic, which has a nice GUI where you move a
slider bar to increase the size of your c drive. As I said in a prior
post, you probably don't have 1gb of "lost" drive space, you just
can't see it.

In the future, you may want to consider not partioning the drive at
all when installing a new operating system. Sounds like a good idea,
but the problems associated with it are sometimes not worth it, as you
seem to be finding out.


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Jones,
Have you looked into something called sectors?

JAX

"jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:10:53 -0700, "JAX"
wrote:

Moving the page file to a different partition on the same HD causes a
performance hit due to the fact the head is constantly moving back and
forth
to write to/read from it.

Bunk.
It don't matter. The page file is PHYSICALLY on another part of the
drive anyway, whether that be on C or D, it the same drive and the
read/write heads will have to move anyway.


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I neglected to ask about cylinders, what cylinder is the sector on? Some
people may be computer whizzes (in their minds) but have no idea of the pure
mechanics of the hardware. How dare you say "Bunk" when you obviously have
not done your homework?

JAX

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Jones,
Have you looked into something called sectors?

JAX

"jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:10:53 -0700, "JAX"
wrote:

Moving the page file to a different partition on the same HD causes a
performance hit due to the fact the head is constantly moving back and
forth
to write to/read from it.

Bunk.
It don't matter. The page file is PHYSICALLY on another part of the
drive anyway, whether that be on C or D, it the same drive and the
read/write heads will have to move anyway.


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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:07:11 -0800, "Aragorn"
wrote:

I'm not sure if I am posting this in the correct
newsgroup, but I still hope someone can help me out.

I partitioned my disk drive into two parts. One part of 3
GB and one for the rest. On the drive with 3 GB, I have
Windows XP installed. However, recently, Windows is
prompting me and saying I don't have enough space on that
drive. But even if I delete files, it doesn't really get
any better. Also, when I right-click on the drive, it
says I have about 100 MB free space (200 is minimum for
running smoothly according to the message). But when I
select all of the files on that drive, only 1.8 GB is
occupied. So over 1 GB seems to be 'lost'. Does anyone
know how to solve this problem?

Thanks.

You are probably not seeing the hidden and system files when you
R/click on the root of C: and display properties. Make sure you go
into files and folders properties in an explorer window and deselect
hide system and hidden files and folders.


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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:10:53 -0700, "JAX"
wrote:

Moving the page file to a different partition on the same HD causes a
performance hit due to the fact the head is constantly moving back and forth
to write to/read from it.

Bunk.
It don't matter. The page file is PHYSICALLY on another part of the
drive anyway, whether that be on C or D, it the same drive and the
read/write heads will have to move anyway.


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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:07:11 -0800, "Aragorn"
wrote:

I'm not sure if I am posting this in the correct
newsgroup, but I still hope someone can help me out.

I partitioned my disk drive into two parts. One part of 3
GB and one for the rest. On the drive with 3 GB, I have
Windows XP installed. However, recently, Windows is
prompting me and saying I don't have enough space on that
drive. But even if I delete files, it doesn't really get
any better. Also, when I right-click on the drive, it
says I have about 100 MB free space (200 is minimum for
running smoothly according to the message). But when I
select all of the files on that drive, only 1.8 GB is
occupied. So over 1 GB seems to be 'lost'. Does anyone
know how to solve this problem?

Thanks.

I don't know how large the rest of your hd is, but you may want to get
a prog called Partition Magic, which has a nice GUI where you move a
slider bar to increase the size of your c drive. As I said in a prior
post, you probably don't have 1gb of "lost" drive space, you just
can't see it.

In the future, you may want to consider not partioning the drive at
all when installing a new operating system. Sounds like a good idea,
but the problems associated with it are sometimes not worth it, as you
seem to be finding out.


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Jones,
Have you looked into something called sectors?

JAX

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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:10:53 -0700, "JAX"
wrote:

Moving the page file to a different partition on the same HD causes a
performance hit due to the fact the head is constantly moving back and
forth
to write to/read from it.

Bunk.
It don't matter. The page file is PHYSICALLY on another part of the
drive anyway, whether that be on C or D, it the same drive and the
read/write heads will have to move anyway.


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I neglected to ask about cylinders, what cylinder is the sector on? Some
people may be computer whizzes (in their minds) but have no idea of the pure
mechanics of the hardware. How dare you say "Bunk" when you obviously have
not done your homework?

JAX

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Jones,
Have you looked into something called sectors?

JAX

"jones" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:10:53 -0700, "JAX"
wrote:

Moving the page file to a different partition on the same HD causes a
performance hit due to the fact the head is constantly moving back and
forth
to write to/read from it.

Bunk.
It don't matter. The page file is PHYSICALLY on another part of the
drive anyway, whether that be on C or D, it the same drive and the
read/write heads will have to move anyway.


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