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Old September 26th 04, 12:48 AM
johnm
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Default why the different screen saver behavior?

2 different machines, both running XP Home, but both machines display
different dialogs under Display Properties / Screen Saver...

On one machine, there is a checkbox that reads "On Resume, Prompt for
Password" while the othr maechine says "On Resume, display Welcome Screen"

why the difference?
FWIW, the first machine is running FAT32 whiole machine #2 is NTFS - is this
the reason?




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Old September 26th 04, 01:23 AM
Patti MacLeod
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Default why the different screen saver behavior?

Hi johnm,

Besides the Guest Account and the built-in Administrator account, does the
machine that reads "On Resume, password protect" have only one User Account
while the other machine has more than one User Account? If so, then that's
the reason why the two different dialogues.



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Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

"johnm" wrote in message
...
2 different machines, both running XP Home, but both machines display
different dialogs under Display Properties / Screen Saver...

On one machine, there is a checkbox that reads "On Resume, Prompt for
Password" while the othr maechine says "On Resume, display Welcome Screen"

why the difference?
FWIW, the first machine is running FAT32 whiole machine #2 is NTFS - is

this
the reason?






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Old September 26th 04, 01:26 AM
Shenan Stanley
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Default why the different screen saver behavior?

johnm wrote:
2 different machines, both running XP Home, but both machines display
different dialogs under Display Properties / Screen Saver...

On one machine, there is a checkbox that reads "On Resume, Prompt for
Password" while the othr maechine says "On Resume, display Welcome
Screen"
why the difference?
FWIW, the first machine is running FAT32 whiole machine #2 is NTFS -
is this the reason?



No, that is not the reason.

On one, you are setup to use the Welcome screen logon - new in XP.
On the other, you are set to use the classic logon - like Windows 2000 has.

When a machine is a member of a domain, the classic logon is the default.
Otherwise you can switch between them normally.

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Old September 26th 04, 01:55 PM
johnm
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Default why the different screen saver behavior?

Sounds like that's it...
thanks



"Patti MacLeod" wrote in message
...
Hi johnm,

Besides the Guest Account and the built-in Administrator account, does the
machine that reads "On Resume, password protect" have only one User
Account
while the other machine has more than one User Account? If so, then that's
the reason why the two different dialogues.



Regards,

--
Patti MacLeod
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

"johnm" wrote in message
...
2 different machines, both running XP Home, but both machines display
different dialogs under Display Properties / Screen Saver...

On one machine, there is a checkbox that reads "On Resume, Prompt for
Password" while the othr maechine says "On Resume, display Welcome
Screen"

why the difference?
FWIW, the first machine is running FAT32 whiole machine #2 is NTFS - is

this
the reason?








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Old September 29th 04, 08:55 PM
Information Scavenger
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Default why the different screen saver behavior?

I have read dozens of threads containing similar questions. Let me
explain what I did, and what my system is now doing.

I only have one user account (my own) besides the disabled guest
account, and the hidden admin and hidden asp.net account. For over
two years, my system was fine. It always went back to the welcome
screen when the screen saver kicks in and I just click my name, type
my password, and am back in.

ALL I did was changed my screen saver settings to not kick in for 45
minutes (so that when I am burning a DVD or CD, the disc has time to
complete before the screen saver kicks in).

After I did so, when my computer screen saver kicks in, when I go to
log back in, it brings up the classic 2k looking UNLOCK screen. I
went back to the screen saver settings and reset them back to the
default, but no luck.

Since this has happened, I noticed 2 things. My screen saver settings
now display ON RESUME, PASSWORD PROTECT instead of the ON RESUME,
DISPLAY WELCOME SCREEN. Also, about half the time I am on my home PC,
its tunneled in to it from work via REMOTE DESKTOP CONNECTION.
Previously, when I would minimize my connection and work locally here
at work, if the screen saver at home had time to come on, when I click
to maximize my home PC, I could tell that the screen saver was
running, and it would immediately refresh and bring me back to my
desktop (assuming that since it was set to ON RESUME, DISPLAY WELCOME
SCREEN and since that would not be a possible thing connected via RDC,
it just turned the screen saver off and I was ready to work.

Now, when I am tunneled in, when the screen saver comes on and I go
back to my home computer session, it brings up the UNLOCK PC prompt
and requires me to logon.

Everything I have read about this says that the reason it is doing
this is because I only have one user account setup. But I ran for
almost 2 years with it set this way and no problems like this have
ever occurred. (Although I have never been required to change any of
my screen saver settings, so I think that has something to do with
it).

I have read posts after posts and microsoft people suggest to go to
the registry and change or edit some registry settings (no luck) and
also download a tweak from kelley's corner but that didn't help
either. (There were only 3 registry changes in the .REG file, and all
it seemed to do was make the option to change the ON DISPLAY PASSWORD
PROTECT field greyed out and I just had to undo those changes...but
still it is not doing what it should be doing.

I don't want anyone to give me "guesses" or "things to try"... I
simply want someone with knowledge of this issue (who knows EXACTLY
what I am talking about) to reply and give me the SOLUTION of exactly
what to do...
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Old September 30th 04, 12:14 AM
Shenan Stanley
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Default why the different screen saver behavior?

Information Scavenger wrote:
I have read dozens of threads containing similar questions. Let me
explain what I did, and what my system is now doing.

I only have one user account (my own) besides the disabled guest
account, and the hidden admin and hidden asp.net account. For over
two years, my system was fine. It always went back to the welcome
screen when the screen saver kicks in and I just click my name, type
my password, and am back in.

ALL I did was changed my screen saver settings to not kick in for 45
minutes (so that when I am burning a DVD or CD, the disc has time to
complete before the screen saver kicks in).

After I did so, when my computer screen saver kicks in, when I go to
log back in, it brings up the classic 2k looking UNLOCK screen. I
went back to the screen saver settings and reset them back to the
default, but no luck.

Since this has happened, I noticed 2 things. My screen saver settings
now display ON RESUME, PASSWORD PROTECT instead of the ON RESUME,
DISPLAY WELCOME SCREEN. Also, about half the time I am on my home PC,
its tunneled in to it from work via REMOTE DESKTOP CONNECTION.
Previously, when I would minimize my connection and work locally here
at work, if the screen saver at home had time to come on, when I click
to maximize my home PC, I could tell that the screen saver was
running, and it would immediately refresh and bring me back to my
desktop (assuming that since it was set to ON RESUME, DISPLAY WELCOME
SCREEN and since that would not be a possible thing connected via RDC,
it just turned the screen saver off and I was ready to work.

Now, when I am tunneled in, when the screen saver comes on and I go
back to my home computer session, it brings up the UNLOCK PC prompt
and requires me to logon.

Everything I have read about this says that the reason it is doing
this is because I only have one user account setup. But I ran for
almost 2 years with it set this way and no problems like this have
ever occurred. (Although I have never been required to change any of
my screen saver settings, so I think that has something to do with
it).

I have read posts after posts and microsoft people suggest to go to
the registry and change or edit some registry settings (no luck) and
also download a tweak from kelley's corner but that didn't help
either. (There were only 3 registry changes in the .REG file, and all
it seemed to do was make the option to change the ON DISPLAY PASSWORD
PROTECT field greyed out and I just had to undo those changes...but
still it is not doing what it should be doing.

I don't want anyone to give me "guesses" or "things to try"... I
simply want someone with knowledge of this issue (who knows EXACTLY
what I am talking about) to reply and give me the SOLUTION of exactly
what to do...



Here's what I have for you, then:

The solution is to get over semantics, deal with the extra security and take
the 5 extra seconds (each time - if you type slow or have a long password)
out of your life to enter the password when your system requests it of you.

It's not like this is more than a cosmetic issue. You noticed a wording
change, difference in response via remote desktop and difference in what the
"locked screen" looks like.

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Old December 17th 04, 04:04 PM
Wassuuuub
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Shenan Stanley wrote:
Information Scavenger wrote:
I have read dozens of threads containing similar questions. Let me
explain what I did, and what my system is now doing.

I only have one user account (my own) besides the disabled guest
account, and the hidden admin and hidden asp.net account. For over
two years, my system was fine. It always went back to the welcome
screen when the screen saver kicks in and I just click my name,

type
my password, and am back in.

ALL I did was changed my screen saver settings to not kick in for

45
minutes (so that when I am burning a DVD or CD, the disc has time

to
complete before the screen saver kicks in).

After I did so, when my computer screen saver kicks in, when I go

to
log back in, it brings up the classic 2k looking UNLOCK screen. I
went back to the screen saver settings and reset them back to the
default, but no luck.

Since this has happened, I noticed 2 things. My screen saver

settings
now display ON RESUME, PASSWORD PROTECT instead of the ON RESUME,
DISPLAY WELCOME SCREEN. Also, about half the time I am on my home

PC,
its tunneled in to it from work via REMOTE DESKTOP CONNECTION.
Previously, when I would minimize my connection and work locally

here
at work, if the screen saver at home had time to come on, when I

click
to maximize my home PC, I could tell that the screen saver was
running, and it would immediately refresh and bring me back to my
desktop (assuming that since it was set to ON RESUME, DISPLAY

WELCOME
SCREEN and since that would not be a possible thing connected via

RDC,
it just turned the screen saver off and I was ready to work.

Now, when I am tunneled in, when the screen saver comes on and I go
back to my home computer session, it brings up the UNLOCK PC prompt
and requires me to logon.

Everything I have read about this says that the reason it is doing
this is because I only have one user account setup. But I ran for
almost 2 years with it set this way and no problems like this have
ever occurred. (Although I have never been required to change any

of
my screen saver settings, so I think that has something to do with
it).

I have read posts after posts and microsoft people suggest to go to
the registry and change or edit some registry settings (no luck)

and
also download a tweak from kelley's corner but that didn't help
either. (There were only 3 registry changes in the .REG file, and

all
it seemed to do was make the option to change the ON DISPLAY

PASSWORD
PROTECT field greyed out and I just had to undo those changes...but
still it is not doing what it should be doing.

I don't want anyone to give me "guesses" or "things to try"... I
simply want someone with knowledge of this issue (who knows EXACTLY
what I am talking about) to reply and give me the SOLUTION of

exactly
what to do...



Here's what I have for you, then:

The solution is to get over semantics, deal with the extra security

and take
the 5 extra seconds (each time - if you type slow or have a long

password)
out of your life to enter the password when your system requests it

of you.

It's not like this is more than a cosmetic issue. You noticed a

wording
change, difference in response via remote desktop and difference in

what the
"locked screen" looks like.

--
- Shenan -
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Shenan,

This is a ridiculously stupid answer. It's incredibly annoying to have
to enter the password every time. I have the same problem and all I get
is nonsense anwers like yours. If you don't have anything to contribute
then just keep quite.

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Old December 17th 04, 08:39 PM
Wassuuuub
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Default why the different screen saver behavior?

The problem still stands:

The text next to the checkbox in the "Properties Screen Saver"
tab has changed from ON RESUME, DISPLAY WELCOME SCREEN to ON RESUME,
PASSWORD PROTECT and instead of switching to the welcome screen after
the screen saver is deactivated, I get the conventional w2k login
prompt.

"Use the Welcome Screen" and "Use Fast User Switching" are both
ENABLED.

I want my welcome screen back.
Thanks for any input ...

 




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