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Old December 15th 16, 04:02 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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Has anyone bought the Win7 ISOs online?
Places advertise $40-$50 for an ISO download
of the install disk and an activation code. It
seems like a very good deal but I want to make
sure it's legitimate.


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Old December 15th 16, 04:10 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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On 15/12/2016 11:02 PM, Mayayana wrote:
Has anyone bought the Win7 ISOs online?
Places advertise $40-$50 for an ISO download
of the install disk and an activation code. It
seems like a very good deal but I want to make
sure it's legitimate.


Beware of used/2nd-hand keys and MSDN keys.

Call your country's Micro$oft office for further information?

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Old December 15th 16, 05:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Wolf K" wrote

| The ISO is free. I hve one on this box. The key is what costs. I would
| buy a key only from MS, or buy the ISO plus key from a legitimate
| reseller such as Newegg:
|
|
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-804-_-Product
|
| A 2nd-hand key may work if it was bought by an end-user, because you can
| transfer the licence if you do a hardware upgrade. However, an OEM key
| will definitely not work.
|

I'm not talking about a second-hand key or
questionable sources. That's why I'm asking
this question. I want the cheapest way
to get legitimate Win7, perhaps buying just
the key to save money. But I want to know
whether sites selling just the key are selling
legitimate keys.

Samples:

https://softwareempire.com/product/w...um-sp1-64-bit/

http://www.softwareking.com/microsof...Speed=noscript

The NewEgg link shows no price. Apparently
they'll only show a price if I enable script and
let them figure out who I am. (Staples is
another one like that.) I prefer not to do business
with such people.

The sites I'm looking at are advertising prices
in the $40-$70 range. Buying an OEM disk, by
contrast, seems to cost more like $140. I'm
planning to buy parts for a new box from
Tigerdirect, but their prices for Windows are
high:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=5213932




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Old December 15th 16, 06:13 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mayayana wrote:
Has anyone bought the Win7 ISOs online?
Places advertise $40-$50 for an ISO download
of the install disk and an activation code. It
seems like a very good deal but I want to make
sure it's legitimate.


The only rational suggestion I could find
on this, is someone said there were people
buying an MSDN subscription, and then
"parting out" the OS installer DVDs from
the subscription. I don't know what is
bundled in an MSDN subscription, to see
if that lines up with the pricing or not.

Paul

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Old December 15th 16, 06:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Paul" wrote

| Has anyone bought the Win7 ISOs online?
| Places advertise $40-$50 for an ISO download
| of the install disk and an activation code. It
| seems like a very good deal but I want to make
| sure it's legitimate.
|
| The only rational suggestion I could find
| on this, is someone said there were people
| buying an MSDN subscription, and then
| "parting out" the OS installer DVDs from
| the subscription. I don't know what is
| bundled in an MSDN subscription, to see
| if that lines up with the pricing or not.
|

I figured that maybe it was just the basic
OEM cost, since the cost of making/shipping
the DVD is removed. An MSDN subscription
includes all OSs, I think, but only licensed for
testing use.
I was just hoping that maybe someone has
had experience with key-only purchase and
could perhaps suggest a reputable site.


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Old December 15th 16, 07:02 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Wolf K" wrote

| $139.99 shown in right-hand box. I've dealt with them, they are
| reliable. So is Tigerdirect IME.
|

OK, thanks. I also like TD. I've bought from
them several times. They've got Win7 at about
the same price. But $140 is a lot of money
for a 1-box Windows license. I was hoping
to find a better deal, but that may be the
best there is.

Softwareking is mysterious. They seem to
have a good rating and are rated well by the
Canada BBB. But there are also some complaints.


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Old December 15th 16, 09:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 12/15/2016 12:25 PM, Mayayana wrote:
I figured that maybe it was just the basic
OEM cost, since the cost of making/shipping
the DVD is removed. An MSDN subscription
includes all OSs, I think, but only licensed for
testing use.
I was just hoping that maybe someone has
had experience with key-only purchase and
could perhaps suggest a reputable site.

IMHO:
The DVD or lack of DVD is the least of the cost. What? maybe a quarter
for the DVD? I haven't bought a pack in years so I can't say accurately.

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Old December 15th 16, 11:01 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Mayayana wrote:
Has anyone bought the Win7 ISOs online?
Places advertise $40-$50 for an ISO download
of the install disk and an activation code. It
seems like a very good deal but I want to make
sure it's legitimate.


IMO, they are all fakes.
Posted one day and gone the next due to complaints.
However, the only way to make sure is to buy one and see.

A friend of mine bought a $50 retail w7Pro cd off of ebay a few years ago.
MS said the key was not valid and would not activate it.
He showed me the box and disks and they looked perfect. Just like the real thing.
He ended up ordering one for $150 from Microcenter.

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Old December 15th 16, 11:03 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Big Al" wrote

| The DVD or lack of DVD is the least of the cost. What? maybe a quarter
| for the DVD? I haven't bought a pack in years so I can't say accurately.
|

Of course the DVD itself doesn't cost much. But
there's a cost of doing business. MS has to design
and print them, put them into a package, ship them
to the retailer... then the retailer has to ship it to
you. And people have to handle both of those
transactions. With a download and sale of a mere
alphanumeric code it would be virtually 100%
profit, so it stands to reason that should be cheaper.

But it looks like that's just my opinion. I'm not
finding a good deal on Win7 that seems legit, other
than buying a disk through eBay. There are good deals
there, down to about $50, but I've never used eBay
and don't really want to start. I guess I'll have to
just hold my nose and give MS 10 times what they
deserve to be paid.


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Old December 15th 16, 11:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Paul in Houston TX" wrote

| A friend of mine bought a $50 retail w7Pro cd off of ebay a few years ago.
| MS said the key was not valid and would not activate it.
| He showed me the box and disks and they looked perfect. Just like the
real thing.

Thanks for that info. eBay is tempting. There
are members there that eBay claims have over
1,000 good reviews with no negative reviews,
and they're selling Win7 relatively cheap. So it's
tempting. But I just don't have any experience
with that.
I'm building a box for someone with an Amazon
Prime account and their offering is the cheapest
I can find: $115 for Win76-64 Home OEM. So I'll
probably go with that. (They also have the same
thing for $89, but it's conveniently out of stock.



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Old December 15th 16, 11:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 12:40:13 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2016-12-15 11:21, Mayayana wrote:
"Wolf K" wrote

| The ISO is free. I hve one on this box. The key is what costs. I would
| buy a key only from MS, or buy the ISO plus key from a legitimate
| reseller such as Newegg:
|
|
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-804-_-Product
|
| A 2nd-hand key may work if it was bought by an end-user, because you can
| transfer the licence if you do a hardware upgrade. However, an OEM key
| will definitely not work.
|

I'm not talking about a second-hand key or
questionable sources. That's why I'm asking
this question. I want the cheapest way
to get legitimate Win7, perhaps buying just
the key to save money. But I want to know
whether sites selling just the key are selling
legitimate keys.

Samples:

https://softwareempire.com/product/w...um-sp1-64-bit/

http://www.softwareking.com/microsof...Speed=noscript


I have no knowledge of those vendors. To me, their names are a red flag.
Kking??? Empire???


www.resellerratings.com used to be the place to go to check on whether a
company was legit. Not sure how relevant it is these days, with
everything moving to Facebook lately.

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/The_Software_King

They get a high rating, but a very small number of reviews, only 377.
Not enough reviews for me to trust them at this point. Newegg, OTOH, has
a slightly lower rating, but over 40K reviews. I've ordered from newegg
literally hundreds of times and never had a problem.

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Newegg

I don't even see an entry for Software Empire, so that's a red flag.


The NewEgg link shows no price.


$139.99 shown in right-hand box. I've dealt with them, they are
reliable. So is Tigerdirect IME.


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Old December 16th 16, 02:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 12/15/2016 5:08 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Paul in Houston TX" wrote

| A friend of mine bought a $50 retail w7Pro cd off of ebay a few years ago.
| MS said the key was not valid and would not activate it.
| He showed me the box and disks and they looked perfect. Just like the
real thing.

Thanks for that info. eBay is tempting. There
are members there that eBay claims have over
1,000 good reviews with no negative reviews,
and they're selling Win7 relatively cheap. So it's
tempting. But I just don't have any experience
with that.
I'm building a box for someone with an Amazon
Prime account and their offering is the cheapest
I can find: $115 for Win76-64 Home OEM. So I'll
probably go with that. (They also have the same
thing for $89, but it's conveniently out of stock.

I've bought one or two W7 licenses on ebay and have had no problems.
The were advertised as being from outdated or returned PCs.

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Old December 16th 16, 02:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 2016-12-16, Art Todesco wrote:
I've bought one or two W7 licenses on ebay and have had no problems.
The were advertised as being from outdated or returned PCs.


If a product key is activated "too many times" Microsoft considers it
to be an abuse and will not longer activate it. I'm not sure what the
number is.

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Old December 16th 16, 05:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Art Todesco" wrote

| I've bought one or two W7 licenses on ebay and have had no problems.
| The were advertised as being from outdated or returned PCs.
|
I didn't notice any details like that on the listings I
looked at. Here's an example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Wi...-/291701318202

$60. But it's not clear whether it's really full retail
version (which can be installed on multiple
computers as long as it's only one at a time)
or "full oem", which is keyed to a single machine.
It says "full version & upgrade".

If you bought a copy from an "outdated" PC
that worked then it must have been a full retail
license that was installed by the seller, not a
pre-installed OEM license.

There are some tempting offers at eBay but
there's just not enough info there. It looks like
the one I linked is probably for a new, unopened,
OEM disk, but it's just not clear. And if that seller
is selling thousands of disks at $60 then where
are they getting them? Mysterious.


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Old December 16th 16, 05:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mayayana" wrote


|| $139.99 shown in right-hand box. I've dealt with them, they are
|| reliable. So is Tigerdirect IME.
||
|
| OK, thanks. I also like TD. I've bought from
| them several times.

An update about Tigerdirect, for anyone who
might be interested: I just placed an
order yesterday. It turns out they were bought
by "PC Mall", pcm.com. It's no longer the same
company at all. They seem to be just a middleman
operation now, with support and sales staff based
in someplace like India. Previously, a TD order
came from the TD warehouse, in a single box.
This order is being shipped with each piece coming
from a different, unnamed source. I've got something
like 8 packages coming for 10 items. They mixed
up the email address. The shipping invoice was
confusing. They did, at least, get the order right.
It looks like the whole thing will eventually work out
and that the mixups are mainly just a result of them
not being very organized, but I don't think I'll deal
with them again.
One reason I avoided Amazon was because of just
this MO. I don't want to be buying every item from
a different seller. (And I also don't want to support
the exploitive, monopoly approach of Amazon.)

I also noticed that TD prices had gone up since
last year and that prices across different companies
are very similar. Looking at Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart,
etc seems to show nearly the same price for items
as TD. It's not clear that any of these companies are
actually acting as retail stores. They seem to be all
just middlemen arranging shipments through other
companies. I wouldn't be surprised if they all just
forward the order to the same "fulfillment center".
They all sell everything online, but nothing in their
stores. (Ask for a CPU at Best Buy or Walmart and
you'll just get stares.)

I'd much prefer to avoid all of this and just buy in a store,
but it's nearly impossible to do that these days. The only
store left in my area that sells parts is Microcenter. I had
a big fight with them many years ago when they refused
a return on a faulty board and have bought nothing but
minor items from them ever since. They seem to take a
discount warehouse approach, with delicate electronics
just piled up or even on pallettes, clerks who don't know
anything, and when I do buy from them I have to run a
gauntlet of pushy attempts to datamine. They want me
to sign up with private info and ask that I actually click a
screen twice to confirm that I've refused to share private
info!)

Staples, Best Buy and others that I used to get parts
from have gradually cut their stock to just a few items.
And they keep reducing. Last week I wanted a bluetooth
adapter. The Staples clerk says he can get it online. When
I recently wanted a cheap cellphone the Best Buy clerk
said he could get it online. I ended up getting it at
Target, of all places. The trend is frustrating and idiotic.
Of course I could get these things online, but if that's
what I wanted to do I wouldn't have driven to the store.
And my choice of online merchants would almost certainly
not include Best Buy, Staples or Walmart.

Do others get frustrated with these changes in retail,
I wonder? It's not clear what the solution is. One of
the advantages of living near a big city used to be that
a wide selection of items could be bought nearby. But
that's changing fast, in all categories. The stores that
are left are often just outlets or marketing venues for
an online face which, itself, is not really a store but
just an order forwarder.


 




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