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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Bit more here as I only have USB2, but principle agreed. A USB3 card would help a bit. Laptops don't always give you much in the way of options. On some machines here, my best option is to back up via file sharing. (GbE being faster than USB2.) Paul |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
Boris wrote: Ed Cryer wrote in newsinbuk$imh$1@dont- email.me: Boris wrote: I have 1.271.1173.0 for both, updated 7 mins ago. Ed Got up this morning, and I still have 1.271.1140.0 running the show, but 1.271.1166.0 waiting in the wings. Blimey! I just did a Windows Update check and got 1.271.1182.0. This all points to an inescapable conclusion. MS are releasing every new added virus definition as an update! And an "important" update! And it depends entirely on your local check-for-updates setting as to how frequently you get them. I think my update-checker calls in once a day. If I ever get any indication that it's doing it more often, I'll do a system restore immediately, and then find the offending KB and hide it. Ed https://www.thewindowsclub.com/autom...tion-frequency "The Windows operating system is set to check if Windows Updates are available periodically. By default, such checks are set at every 22 hours. In practice, however, the checks may take place anytime between 17.6 hours and 22 hours. But you can make Windows check for Updates faster." So there's something for you to check. Paul |
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Boris wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote in news Boris wrote: Ed Cryer wrote in newsinbuk$imh$1@dont- email.me: Boris wrote: I have 1.271.1173.0 for both, updated 7 mins ago. Ed Got up this morning, and I still have 1.271.1140.0 running the show, but 1.271.1166.0 waiting in the wings. Blimey! I just did a Windows Update check and got 1.271.1182.0. This all points to an inescapable conclusion. MS are releasing every new added virus definition as an update! And an "important" update! And it depends entirely on your local check-for-updates setting as to how frequently you get them. I think my update-checker calls in once a day. If I ever get any indication that it's doing it more often, I'll do a system restore immediately, and then find the offending KB and hide it. Ed Ed, Are you manually installing the MSE updates that appear in your Windows Update? If so, do they then appear in your "View update history" window? For me, I have never manually installed a MSE update that appeared in my Windows Update. All the MSE updates that appear in my "View update history" have gotten there on their own, and have never appeared in my Windows Update. My MSE scheduled scan is set for "Around: 1:00 PM", and "Check for the latest virus and spyware definitionis before running a scheduled scan". I just noticed that on the Home tab of my MSE, "Last scan: 7/17/2018 PM", which is the exact time that 1.271.1136.0 shows as the time it was installed in View update history. Because only MSE updates that appear in the MSE program show up installed in View update history, and none of the MSE updates in Windows Updates ever do show up in View update history, I suspect that it's the MSE program, that is set to look for updates right before running it's scheduled scan at around 1:00 PM, if it finds an update, it installs it, making it show up in View update history. Then (and this is entirely speculation), the MSE update that was in Windows Update disappears after the next look for Windows updates, since the MSE update now installed is newer than the one sitting in Windows Update. Why are there are sometimes two MSE updates in View update history? I'd have to noodle that one some more. In the end, I think this is one of those much-a-do about nothings. I think we'd spend a lot of time, but eventually figure this out, then not make any settings or configuration changes, and then forget about it all together in a week or so. Perhaps of some interest: https://postimg.cc/gallery/1jmw3q36k/ Boris My settings have scheduled scan switched off. Your having a daily scan scheduled fulfils the daily download of updates. I don't have any duplicate installs of definitions. And I can't figure out why you do. Perhaps it's the clash of having two different MS programs checking for updates daily. I've switched on a daily scan at 1-00pm; to see what happens. Ed |
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In message , Paul
writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: Bit more here as I only have USB2, but principle agreed. A USB3 card would help a bit. Laptops don't always give you much in the way of options. On some machines here, my best option is to back up via file sharing. (GbE being faster than USB2.) Paul I don't _think_ this laptop has a card slot (other than an SD one). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I hate the guys that criticize the enterprise of other guys whose enterprise has made them rise above the guys who criticize!" (W9BRD, former editor of "How's DX?" column in "QST") |
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Boris wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote in newsioamu$v61$1@dont- email.me: Boris wrote: Ed Cryer wrote in newsinv6a$io0$1@dont- email.me: Boris wrote: Ed Cryer wrote in newsinbuk$imh$1@dont- email.me: Boris wrote: I have 1.271.1173.0 for both, updated 7 mins ago. Ed Got up this morning, and I still have 1.271.1140.0 running the show, but 1.271.1166.0 waiting in the wings. Blimey! I just did a Windows Update check and got 1.271.1182.0. This all points to an inescapable conclusion. MS are releasing every new added virus definition as an update! And an "important" update! And it depends entirely on your local check-for-updates setting as to how frequently you get them. I think my update-checker calls in once a day. If I ever get any indication that it's doing it more often, I'll do a system restore immediately, and then find the offending KB and hide it. Ed Ed, Are you manually installing the MSE updates that appear in your Windows Update? If so, do they then appear in your "View update history" window? For me, I have never manually installed a MSE update that appeared in my Windows Update. All the MSE updates that appear in my "View update history" have gotten there on their own, and have never appeared in my Windows Update. My MSE scheduled scan is set for "Around: 1:00 PM", and "Check for the latest virus and spyware definitionis before running a scheduled scan". I just noticed that on the Home tab of my MSE, "Last scan: 7/17/2018 PM", which is the exact time that 1.271.1136.0 shows as the time it was installed in View update history. Because only MSE updates that appear in the MSE program show up installed in View update history, and none of the MSE updates in Windows Updates ever do show up in View update history, I suspect that it's the MSE program, that is set to look for updates right before running it's scheduled scan at around 1:00 PM, if it finds an update, it installs it, making it show up in View update history. Then (and this is entirely speculation), the MSE update that was in Windows Update disappears after the next look for Windows updates, since the MSE update now installed is newer than the one sitting in Windows Update. Why are there are sometimes two MSE updates in View update history? I'd have to noodle that one some more. In the end, I think this is one of those much-a-do about nothings. I think we'd spend a lot of time, but eventually figure this out, then not make any settings or configuration changes, and then forget about it all together in a week or so. Perhaps of some interest: https://postimg.cc/gallery/1jmw3q36k/ Boris My settings have scheduled scan switched off. Your having a daily scan scheduled fulfils the daily download of updates. I don't have any duplicate installs of definitions. And I can't figure out why you do. Perhaps it's the clash of having two different MS programs checking for updates daily. I've switched on a daily scan at 1-00pm; to see what happens. Ed Thanks for trying that. I now have 1.271.1182.0 installed at 1:18PM, the exact time that the MSE program tells me it did it's last scan, and the MSE update that was sitting in Windows Update has disappeared, as expected. I have turned off scheduled scans to see what happens here. Here's a cute, amusing comment on MSE updates. My Reliability Monitor contains nothing more than daily informational events about them; https://goo.gl/K25H5w Ed |
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For whatever it might be worth :
7/21/18 Important 2018-07 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB 4338818 ( failed ) 7/21/18 Optional 2018-07 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB 4338821 ( failed ) |
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