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Then you are the only one that has hit the fictitious 25 limit.
It is also noted that you ignored the request for a source for the 25 activation limit. I have known some who are well beyond that. Even the harshest critics of Microsoft activation know there is no such limit. You did not hit a limit, but you may think you have. Post proof of your claim. Also explain why you seem to be the only one affected. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org "Husky" wrote in message When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here. 25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all by voice to a machine that's programmed to fail, and an international caller on the other end when it fails. You don't need to reinstall the OS 25 times, upgrading software, replacing old worthless parts, upgrading hardware, any time you reboot the machine the liar software checks your last few changes. If you use something it acquires wear and tear. requiring upgrading, replacing parts. But no sense really arguing with the MS robot dogs. You all seem to have been bought off ages ago by MS. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:19:24 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote: Then you are the only one that has hit the fictitious 25 limit. It is also noted that you ignored the request for a source for the 25 activation limit. I have known some who are well beyond that. Even the harshest critics of Microsoft activation know there is no such limit. You did not hit a limit, but you may think you have. Post proof of your claim. Also explain why you seem to be the only one affected. Take your foot of your mouth long enough to read my previous post with PROOF1 and PROOF2 jpg's... http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof1.jpg http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof2.jpg It's amazing this loyalty to a clearly illegal company. Monopolies are definitely illegal. You may throw out brand x exists as some sort of argument that M$ is NOT a monopoly, all that proves is that M$ doesn't create their monopoly the same as criminals in the 20's did by eradicating the competition. I wish there were another choice. Apple won't survive much longer unless they merge with M$. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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I never even suggested "brand x", that is your attempted misdirection of
this thread. Your reference to monopolies clearly shows how desperate you are to foist this fiction. Monopoly has nothing to do with this thread except for you to some how change the subject from your lost point. There is nothing on those links to support the 25 limit. I suggest you look at those images again, especially the parts you seem to have missed. Hint: The word "error" is part of it. That message will come up if the activation system believes that key has been installed on more computers than licensed. So if Windows has been installed on more than one computer you have exceeded the number of activations. You need to get your facts straight. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org "Husky" wrote in message Take your foot of your mouth long enough to read my previous post with PROOF1 and PROOF2 jpg's... http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof1.jpg http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof2.jpg It's amazing this loyalty to a clearly illegal company. Monopolies are definitely illegal. You may throw out brand x exists as some sort of argument that M$ is NOT a monopoly, all that proves is that M$ doesn't create their monopoly the same as criminals in the 20's did by eradicating the competition. I wish there were another choice. Apple won't survive much longer unless they merge with M$. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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Proof of what?
--=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------- http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/...nt/001075.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "Husky" wrote in message = ... On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:34:12 -0500, "Shenan Stanley" = wrote: =20 Husky wrote: When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here. 25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all by voice to a machine that's programmed to fail, and an = international caller on the other end when it fails. Doesn't exist. No limit on activation. You are just incorrect. When you are wrong - you are just wrong - no matter what it is. There is no limit on the number of times you can activate a license of = Windows XP. =20 You aren't the only one that doesn't have a clue what you're talking = about, so let me provide PROOF. =20 http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof1.jpg http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof2.jpg =20 The word "EXCEEDED" plainly means a LIMITATION in every dictionary = I've ever read. =20 Final comment by the operator this will happen EVERY time it needs = reactivation from now on. Voice activation ONLY ! =20 --=20 more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:47:31 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote: I never even suggested "brand x", that is your attempted misdirection of this thread. Your reference to monopolies clearly shows how desperate you are to foist this fiction. Monopoly has nothing to do with this thread except for you to some how change the subject from your lost point. There is nothing on those links to support the 25 limit. I suggest you look at those images again, especially the parts you seem to have missed. Hint: The word "error" is part of it. That message will come up if the activation system believes that key has been installed on more computers than licensed. So if Windows has been installed on more than one computer you have exceeded the number of activations. You need to get your facts straight. The facts are straight. That 'LIMIT' "EXCEEDED' Means beyond a Limit. MWD : Main Entry: ex·ceed MWD : Pronunciation: ik-'sEd MWD : Function: verb MWD : Etymology: Middle English exceden, from Middle French exceder, from Latin excedere, from ex- + cedere to go MWD : transitive senses MWD : 1 : to extend outside of the river will exceed its banks MWD : 2 : to be greater than or superior to MWD : 3 : to go beyond a limit set by exceeded his authority MWD : intransitive senses As for monopolies. Denying facts about that is also ridiculous. M$ is definitely a monopoly. And can get away with this ridiculous crap because of that fact. It's been in court for that before. My point has always been M$ exceeding their rights by taking rights away from the individuals. Once I paid for this that should have been the end of my association with M$. Not reminded every time I upgrade something, or something BSOD's and reinstalls drivers that I now have to actually talk to someone at M$ to ask permission to use it again. You don't buy a book, and have to call the author every time you want to turn a page. Yeah I'm real sorry M$ is the target of piracy not! They'd sell more if they charged less and be a larger monopoly than they already are. But you can bet there'd be less demand for piracy if the software were priced so the average guy didn't have to mortgage their 1st born to buy it. I just have no use for defending M$ or the code. At best it's a machine. Like a coffee maker. Weekly, daily, monthly security updates to close the barn door after the horse is gone. Stability is better with XP.. Better than what ? Why is it even an issue ? Because it's the #1 source of the BSOD's that require changing the setup of the machines to reach this ridiculous limit of activations. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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NOTHING in the links you supplied says "anything" about a 25 time activation
limit. It says that you need a 25 digit activation key. What you are seeing is normal. If you do nothing to your system for 180 days, the system resets to ZERO and you can activate over the internet as you first did. If you change things a lot, expect to have to make that phone call. But, there are even ways around that. I test scads of hardware and software and have had to only activate once. Now, instead of having an attitude, why don't you ask how that can be done - if you are something other than a TROLL! -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User Quote from: George Ankner "If you knew as much as you thought you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!" "Husky" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:19:24 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote: Then you are the only one that has hit the fictitious 25 limit. It is also noted that you ignored the request for a source for the 25 activation limit. I have known some who are well beyond that. Even the harshest critics of Microsoft activation know there is no such limit. You did not hit a limit, but you may think you have. Post proof of your claim. Also explain why you seem to be the only one affected. Take your foot of your mouth long enough to read my previous post with PROOF1 and PROOF2 jpg's... http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof1.jpg http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof2.jpg It's amazing this loyalty to a clearly illegal company. Monopolies are definitely illegal. You may throw out brand x exists as some sort of argument that M$ is NOT a monopoly, all that proves is that M$ doesn't create their monopoly the same as criminals in the 20's did by eradicating the competition. I wish there were another choice. Apple won't survive much longer unless they merge with M$. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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Husky
You have way too many preconceptions about computing in general and Microsoft in particular to ever overcome your problems.. changing to another platform requires a level of understanding that clearly you could not muster.. I would suggest that you either quit computing completely, or listen to people that may be able to give you the knowledge to make computing fun.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/User "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland "Husky" wrote in message news On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:47:31 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote: I never even suggested "brand x", that is your attempted misdirection of this thread. Your reference to monopolies clearly shows how desperate you are to foist this fiction. Monopoly has nothing to do with this thread except for you to some how change the subject from your lost point. There is nothing on those links to support the 25 limit. I suggest you look at those images again, especially the parts you seem to have missed. Hint: The word "error" is part of it. That message will come up if the activation system believes that key has been installed on more computers than licensed. So if Windows has been installed on more than one computer you have exceeded the number of activations. You need to get your facts straight. The facts are straight. That 'LIMIT' "EXCEEDED' Means beyond a Limit. MWD : Main Entry: ex·ceed MWD : Pronunciation: ik-'sEd MWD : Function: verb MWD : Etymology: Middle English exceden, from Middle French exceder, from Latin excedere, from ex- + cedere to go MWD : transitive senses MWD : 1 : to extend outside of the river will exceed its banks MWD : 2 : to be greater than or superior to MWD : 3 : to go beyond a limit set by exceeded his authority MWD : intransitive senses As for monopolies. Denying facts about that is also ridiculous. M$ is definitely a monopoly. And can get away with this ridiculous crap because of that fact. It's been in court for that before. My point has always been M$ exceeding their rights by taking rights away from the individuals. Once I paid for this that should have been the end of my association with M$. Not reminded every time I upgrade something, or something BSOD's and reinstalls drivers that I now have to actually talk to someone at M$ to ask permission to use it again. You don't buy a book, and have to call the author every time you want to turn a page. Yeah I'm real sorry M$ is the target of piracy not! They'd sell more if they charged less and be a larger monopoly than they already are. But you can bet there'd be less demand for piracy if the software were priced so the average guy didn't have to mortgage their 1st born to buy it. I just have no use for defending M$ or the code. At best it's a machine. Like a coffee maker. Weekly, daily, monthly security updates to close the barn door after the horse is gone. Stability is better with XP.. Better than what ? Why is it even an issue ? Because it's the #1 source of the BSOD's that require changing the setup of the machines to reach this ridiculous limit of activations. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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well, you caught on...it's just a big huge plot by MS to, at first, lull you
into complacency, then, just as you get fairly comfortable with their software, they hit you with the full treatment.. they mess with your mind, your soul, your sanity..you begin to wonder just how many time are they going to make you activate before you will no longer have the strength to continue the process...The next thing you know, they will be snooping in your yard, your place of employment...checking to see if you are near, or have EXCEEDED your limit of 25 activations, and, just like Big Brother, they will be waiting for you when you do..oh, yes indeedy, they most certainly will. Then they'll start asking questions, ..like, 'How long have you been hearing voices in your head? that sort of thing. SO, you are right to be so paranoid..really, and please, don't let the MS robot dogs tell you anything different, no matter how many of them sound sane, sound like they know what they are talking about, or appear to be rational, because, well it's all part of the plot. "Husky" wrote in message news On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:03:39 -0400, "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)" wrote: Husky Even if the activation limit was a reality, anybody who has to re-activate 24 times really shouldn't own a computer.. When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here. 25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all by voice to a machine that's programmed to fail, and an international caller on the other end when it fails. You don't need to reinstall the OS 25 times, upgrading software, replacing old worthless parts, upgrading hardware, any time you reboot the machine the liar software checks your last few changes. If you use something it acquires wear and tear. requiring upgrading, replacing parts. But no sense really arguing with the MS robot dogs. You all seem to have been bought off ages ago by MS. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:25:27 -0400, "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)"
wrote: Husky You have way too many preconceptions about computing in general and Microsoft in particular to ever overcome your problems.. changing to another platform requires a level of understanding that clearly you could not muster.. I would suggest that you either quit computing completely, or listen to people that may be able to give you the knowledge to make computing fun.. I've been at it for more than 20 years. It was a pain arguing with a machine then, and it's even harder arguing with those that believe the machine is infallible. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:30:00 -0500, "lvee" wrote:
well, you caught on...it's just a big huge plot by MS to, at first, lull you into complacency, then, just as you get fairly comfortable with their software, they hit you with the full treatment.. they mess with your mind, your soul, your sanity..you begin to wonder just how many time are they going to make you activate before you will no longer have the strength to continue the process...The next thing you know, they will be snooping in your yard, your place of employment...checking to see if you are near, or have EXCEEDED your limit of 25 activations, and, just like Big Brother, they will be waiting for you when you do..oh, yes indeedy, they most certainly will. Then they'll start asking questions, ..like, 'How long have you been hearing voices in your head? that sort of thing. SO, you are right to be so paranoid..really, and please, don't let the MS robot dogs tell you anything different, no matter how many of them sound sane, sound like they know what they are talking about, or appear to be rational, because, well it's all part of the plot. And it would seem that you know even less about what's on your machine this moment than M$ does. They can track you with a simple text file on your machine. If you didn't create the program, you have no idea what all the extras behind the scenes are or can do. Majority are called Virus or Trojan. M$ isn't above their own brand of law and order. Bounty paid [not will pay, PAID] on Virus programmers. Last time that happened 6 million Jews were gassed or cooked. Children turning their parents in. Oh yeah... Ya gotta bow to M$. I'm stuck with it same as anyone else that chooses to use one of these things. I just don't feel it's necessary to ask permission to use what's already been paid for. Internet is a small part of what I use this for. I could live without the Internet, but M$ can't, they NEED to connect to home every so often. I've never been comfortable with any machine or software. When a virus wipes you out, it isn't your fault. it's the way the software and machine were DESIGNED to operate. "Husky" wrote in message news On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:03:39 -0400, "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)" wrote: Husky Even if the activation limit was a reality, anybody who has to re-activate 24 times really shouldn't own a computer.. When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here. 25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all by voice to a machine that's programmed to fail, and an international caller on the other end when it fails. You don't need to reinstall the OS 25 times, upgrading software, replacing old worthless parts, upgrading hardware, any time you reboot the machine the liar software checks your last few changes. If you use something it acquires wear and tear. requiring upgrading, replacing parts. But no sense really arguing with the MS robot dogs. You all seem to have been bought off ages ago by MS. -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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Husky wrote:
And it would seem that you know even less about what's on your machine this moment than M$ does. They can track you with a simple text file on your machine. If you didn't create the program, you have no idea what all the extras behind the scenes are or can do. Majority are called Virus or Trojan. M$ isn't above their own brand of law and order. Bounty paid [not will pay, PAID] on Virus programmers. Last time that happened 6 million Jews were gassed or cooked. Children turning their parents in. Oh yeah... Ya gotta bow to M$. I'm stuck with it same as anyone else that chooses to use one of these things. I just don't feel it's necessary to ask permission to use what's already been paid for. Internet is a small part of what I use this for. I could live without the Internet, but M$ can't, they NEED to connect to home every so often. I've never been comfortable with any machine or software. When a virus wipes you out, it isn't your fault. it's the way the software and machine were DESIGNED to operate. You are proof that ignorance really isn't bliss, eh? -- Shenan Stanley -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Husky wrote:
Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you only bought 25 uses of it ? Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old. Congratulations on a very successful troll post. -- Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell/User] www.webtree.ca\windowsxp |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:46:27 -0500, "Shenan Stanley" wrote: Husky wrote: Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you only bought 25 uses of it ? Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ? And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ? I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date. And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old. First paragraph - incorrect. Second paragraph - usually your own fault. Third paragraph - insanity. Fourth paragraph - personal choice. Fifth paragraph - registration is optional, activation is mandatory. Simply put - other than you making a statement that you are considering not using a Microsoft product anymore - everything you stated is due to ignorance of the facts about activation, poor maintenance of the machine (ignorance of how to properly maintain a Windows computer) and/or just ranting and raving because of some unknown event that has happened to you. You can activate your copy of Windows XP (if an OEM copy - 'on the same hardware' should be added) an unlimited number of times. Depending on how often and the circumstance - you may find yourself required to call and actibvate over the telephone instead of the Internet. While there are bugs in Windows XP - a majority of computer problems (evident even by these newsgroups) are user issues - either by direct interaction or by the attempted use of obselete hardware/software. A reinstall of a system should hardly ever be "necessary" - given proper maintenance. Yes - hardware can and will go bad - this is a valid reason - and it can be disheartening to find out that you had purchased an OEM version of Windows XP and when your motherboard and hard drive fried from that lightning strike - the copy of Windows XP went with it because you cannot get the manufacturer to replace it since your PC is out of warranty. To be perfectly honest however, that would usually be the fault of the OEM that sole you the PC for customizing the copy of Windows XP so much.. If your machine was that old and you replaced the motherboard and hard drive and reinstalled Windows - you would probably activate it with no problem if the copy of Windows was a generic OEM. The fact about activation is it is unlimited - you can do it as often as you want as many times as you want and Microsoft has even stated that when Windows XP support ends, the activation necessity will somehow be "removed". If you are having trouble with activation by Internet - you try telephone activation.. if you have to talk to a MS representative instead of the automated line - you tell them your story.. Then you are reactivated. To put it in simplest terms - if you wanted to reactivate your copy of Windows XP without interacting with anyone - you could reinstall and do so every 121 days. First of all - what caused this rant? Can we help solve this problem so that your machine will not be so unreasonably unstable that you have to reinstall this often? Are you performing tests opf some sort that requires you to start at a certain point every so often? Have you ever considered an imaging product to backup your system after a fresh installation/activation? If this was more of a trolling expedition - I expect you to get a few more hits with or without your further participation. Otherwise - perhaps you should consider learning about your system, how to secure and stabilize it and how to basically maintain/troubleshoot it and see if all of your worries don't just go away... I'll wait for an answer before I assist further.. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP About the only thing that can be said is if you haven't reached the 25 modem activation limit yet, you don't know what you're talking about or in for. That installation serial of yours is trash after 25 activations. And still they miss the point that MS is calling anyone using their software a bunch of liars and thieves. And they let a DUMB machine make that decision. Why should you have to 'ACTIVATE' something you've already paid for more than once ? -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html Although I legally own my copy of XP, i chose not to activate windows, living in England and not the US or any other country, it is perfectly legal to by pass the windows activation, I prefer my anonymity, the less information I send to Microsoft, the better, plus I can use this copy of XP on many different PC (obviously not at the same time :P) -- Posted using the http://www.windowsforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.windowsforumz.com/New-Use...ict396721.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.windowsforumz.com/eform.php?p=1308982 |
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You are confusing the issue. Product Activation is mandatory
and "registration" is entirely optional. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User Microsoft Newsgroups Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies: http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sparda" wrote: | Although I legally own my copy of XP, i chose not to activate windows, | living in England and not the US or any other country, it is perfectly | legal to by pass the windows activation, I prefer my anonymity, the | less information I send to Microsoft, the better, plus I can use this | copy of XP on many different PC (obviously not at the same time :P) |
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On 18 Jul 2005 21:35:36 -0400, Sparda wrote:
Although I legally own my copy of XP, i chose not to activate windows, living in England and not the US or any other country, it is perfectly legal to by pass the windows activation, I prefer my anonymity, the less information I send to Microsoft, the better, plus I can use this copy of XP on many different PC (obviously not at the same time :P) Interesting, how do you avoid the remind me NAG ? Or for that matter, how do you get it to work past the 30 day grace period allowed before needing to activate ? -- more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html |
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