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Tip: USB 4 explained
Hi All,
Yes, I am cross posting. Bite me! This is a nice video on the upcoming USB 4 standard: There’s ANOTHER Version of USB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0W7fHJMnyg Basically, it is Thunderbolt without the license to Intel and missing some various proprietary features of Thunderbolt, although if you pay the license to Intel, you can have those features back. USB 4 is an open standard, so no licenses USB 4 has borrow bandwidth from itself to make for asymmetrical upload and downloads. I think I am going t0 really like USB 4. If you are a fan of USB-C (3.1), as am I, then you will probably will adore USB 4 too. -T |
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Tip: USB 4 explained
On 05/08/2019 00:57, T wrote:
Hi All, Yes, I am cross posting.Â* Bite me! This is a nice video on the upcoming USB 4 standard: There’s ANOTHER Version of USB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0W7fHJMnyg Basically, it is Thunderbolt without the license to Intel and missing some various proprietary features of Thunderbolt, although if you pay the license to Intel, you can have those features back. USB 4 is an open standard, so no licenses USB 4 has borrow bandwidth from itself to make for asymmetrical upload and downloads. I think I am going t0 really like USB 4.Â* If you are a fan of USB-C (3.1), as am I, then you will probably will adore USB 4 too. -T I try not to have emotional attachments to communications protocols -- "The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." - Leo Tolstoy |
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Tip: USB 4 explained
A USB chart:
Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name 5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s USB 4 |
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Tip: USB 4 explained
On 8/4/19 5:08 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
IÂ*tryÂ*notÂ*toÂ*haveÂ*emotionalÂ*attachmentsÂ*to *communicationsÂ*protocols I remember when e-sata was the cure all. I still use it, but it has it limitations. Mostly I use it for external backup with older computers that only support USB 2. |
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In message , T writes:
A USB chart: Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name 5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s USB 4 OK, _a_ USB chart. You left out USB1 slow, USB1 fast, and USB2. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf In my life I have written about six poems ... The rest of it is comedy that happens to rhyme. - Pam Ayres, interviwed in RT 2018/3/17-23 |
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On 8/4/19 6:07 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , T writes: A USB chart: Max speedÂ*Â*Â* OriginalÂ*Â* RenamedÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Renamed againÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Marketing name 5 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 3.0Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 1Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 1Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 2Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â *Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2Â*Â* SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 4 OK, _a_ USB chart. You left out USB1 slow, USB1 fast, and USB2. I was only going for 3+ and showing all the weird names You can add to the chart and get back to us |
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T writes:
I think I am going t0 really like USB 4. If you are a fan of USB-C (3.1), as am I, then you will probably will adore USB 4 too. If only we could just forget the naming mess we have with USB 3.anything now... |
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T wrote:
Hi All, Yes, I am cross posting. Bite me! This is a nice video on the upcoming USB 4 standard: There’s ANOTHER Version of USB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0W7fHJMnyg Basically, it is Thunderbolt without the license to Intel and missing some various proprietary features of Thunderbolt, although if you pay the license to Intel, you can have those features back. USB 4 is an open standard, so no licenses USB 4 has borrow bandwidth from itself to make for asymmetrical upload and downloads. I think I am going t0 really like USB 4. If you are a fan of USB-C (3.1), as am I, then you will probably will adore USB 4 too. -T A 6 foot cable is $74 in local currency. Now, we re-stamp the cable as "USB4" and away we go. https://www.amazon.ca/Cable-Matters-.../dp/B01H5QF2TK Yes, amazing technology. I hear Bill Gates may buy one. "I need to run USB4 to my back yard. What kind of cables do I need ?" Indeed. Paul |
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Tip: USB 4 explained
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote:
A USB chart: Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name 5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s USB 4 Could you re-code that table plix? []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote: A USB chart: Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name 5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s USB 4 Could you re-code that table plix? []'s What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls by your eMail client. |
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On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:27:09 -0700, T wrote:
On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote: A USB chart: Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name 5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s USB 4 Could you re-code that table plix? []'s What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls by your eMail client. Like this ? Max speed,Original,Renamed,Renamed again,Marketing name 5 Gbit/s,USB 3.0,USB 3.1 Gen 1,USB 3.2 Gen 1,SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s,USB 3.1 Gen 2,USB 3.2 Gen 2,SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s,USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2,SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s,USB 4 []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On 8/7/19 5:25 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:27:09 -0700, T wrote: On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote: A USB chart: Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name 5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s USB 4 Could you re-code that table plix? []'s What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls by your eMail client. Like this ? Max speed,Original,Renamed,Renamed again,Marketing name 5 Gbit/s,USB 3.0,USB 3.1 Gen 1,USB 3.2 Gen 1,SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s,USB 3.1 Gen 2,USB 3.2 Gen 2,SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s,USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2,SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s,USB 4 []'s A little harder to read what columns go with what, but it will do |
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T wrote:
On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote: A USB chart: Max speed Original Renamed Renamed again Marketing name 5 Gbit/s USB 3.0 USB 3.1 Gen 1 USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s USB 3.1 Gen 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2 SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/s USB 4 Could you re-code that table plix? []'s What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls by your eMail client. https://i.postimg.cc/VND3wXhZ/text-h...make-sense.gif Paul |
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On 8/7/19 8:11 AM, Paul wrote:
T wrote: On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote: A USB chart: Max speedÂ*Â*Â* OriginalÂ*Â* RenamedÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Renamed again Marketing name Â* 5 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 3.0Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 1Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 2Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â *Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2Â*Â* SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 4 Â*Â*Â* Could you re-code that table plix? Â*Â*Â* []'s What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls by your eMail client. https://i.postimg.cc/VND3wXhZ/text-h...make-sense.gif Â*Â* Paul Plus it scrolls perfectly on my machine: Thunderbird 60.8.0 |
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Tip: USB 4 explained
On 8/6/19 3:27 PM, T wrote:
On 8/6/19 9:03 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 17:19:41 -0700, T wrote: A USB chart: Max speedÂ*Â*Â* OriginalÂ*Â* RenamedÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Renamed againÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Marketing name Â* 5 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 3.0Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 1Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 1 SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.1 Gen 2Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps 20 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â *Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 2Â*Â* SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbps 40 Gbit/sÂ*Â*Â* USB 4 Â*Â*Â*Â*Could you re-code that table plix? Â*Â*Â*Â*[]'s What you need to do is copy and paste to a text editor so you can remove the artificially inserted scrolls by your eMail client. If you paste into a word processor, select a monospaced font |
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