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  #31  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:39 PM
Rocket J. Squirrel
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

You upgraded Real Player? Real Player has components that run in the
background and slow your computer. You deleted pre-fetch files? They are
designed to improve performance.

Instead of running around and trying things willy-nilly, let's get serious.
If you're 100% certain that your computer is not affected by a virus or
spyware - and won't be - and that the integrity of your system has not been
compromised by well-meaning but misguided tweaking, then the way to diagnose
performance problems is through a slow and thoughtful process of
elimination.

Here are just two of the excellent and authoritative resources available
from the Microsoft web site. Microsoft has many resources to help Windows XP
run at its best.

""How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

"Support WebCast: Microsoft Windows XP: Troubleshooting Startup and Shutdown
Problems"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326841

Rocky

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



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  #32  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:39 PM
Rocket J. Squirrel
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

You upgraded Real Player? Real Player has components that run in the
background and slow your computer. You deleted pre-fetch files? They are
designed to improve performance.

Instead of running around and trying things willy-nilly, let's get serious.
If you're 100% certain that your computer is not affected by a virus or
spyware - and won't be - and that the integrity of your system has not been
compromised by well-meaning but misguided tweaking, then the way to diagnose
performance problems is through a slow and thoughtful process of
elimination.

Here are just two of the excellent and authoritative resources available
from the Microsoft web site. Microsoft has many resources to help Windows XP
run at its best.

""How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

"Support WebCast: Microsoft Windows XP: Troubleshooting Startup and Shutdown
Problems"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326841

Rocky

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



  #33  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:41 PM
Marcus
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.

  #34  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:41 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



  #35  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:42 PM
Rocket J. Squirrel
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

You upgraded Real Player? Real Player has components that run in the
background and slow your computer. You deleted pre-fetch files? They are
designed to improve performance.

Instead of running around and trying things willy-nilly, let's get serious.
If you're 100% certain that your computer is not affected by a virus or
spyware - and won't be - and that the integrity of your system has not been
compromised by well-meaning but misguided tweaking, then the way to diagnose
performance problems is through a slow and thoughtful process of
elimination.

Here are just two of the excellent and authoritative resources available
from the Microsoft web site. Microsoft has many resources to help Windows XP
run at its best.

""How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

"Support WebCast: Microsoft Windows XP: Troubleshooting Startup and Shutdown
Problems"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=326841

Rocky

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



  #36  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:45 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Link Didn't work Marcus

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems
at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in
message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



.



  #37  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:45 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Link Didn't work Marcus

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems
at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in
message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



.



  #38  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:45 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Link Didn't work Marcus

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems
at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in
message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






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.



.



  #39  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:45 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Link Didn't work Marcus

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems
at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in
message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



.



  #40  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:45 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Link Didn't work Marcus

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems
at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in
message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



.



  #41  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:45 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Link Didn't work Marcus

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems
at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in
message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






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  #42  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:45 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Link Didn't work Marcus

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems
at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in
message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






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  #43  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:49 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Link Didn't work Marcus

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems
at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in
message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session
concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq
presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the
scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am
online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was
supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This
didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch
during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up
there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the
rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP
server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling
Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red
dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004
9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a
little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch
directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow
start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),
then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to
start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering
if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with
NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,
2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I
went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the
problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.
Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






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.



.



  #44  
Old April 24th 04, 01:42 PM
Marcus
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.



.

  #45  
Old April 24th 04, 01:42 PM
Marcus
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office.
Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer,

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?
reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d
ocName=c00009572

-----Original Message-----
OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM,

Processor, HD Size, Blah
Blah Etc...........

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
OK... Last night I have now done the following, and

start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice

compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be

fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed

mine
this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus"

wrote in
message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am
thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-

install,
but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging

in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled,

and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point.

This
worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work,

so I
just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update

available,
and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't

help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps

not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner

drivers
can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and

plug
N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem,

but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon

AV
2002
works better with a specified or static IP

address,
but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm

not
sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

3:30
PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your
problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us

know if
you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up.

Do
you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If

you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the

Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can

cause
OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I

read
the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a
ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file

anywhere
on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services

and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even

Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to

the
internet. It waits until everything has started

up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it

has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office

Outlook,
but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that

as
well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again,

but
when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed,

even
that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the
service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't

know.

Marcus


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