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  #31  
Old December 19th 08, 05:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Jbarrick
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Posts: 21
Default XP computer fails to reboot

I changed the boot order for the computer in Bios.

I booted with the XP Professional CD

It came to a blue screen with the title of "Windows Setup"

At the bottom of the screen was "Setup is loading file (x)" where x was
several different files as they were being loaded.

Finally I got the blue screen of death with the following Technical
information:

*** STOP 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78CA208, 0xF78D9F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c






"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:

ok,

your first step is to
ensure your bios is
set to boot directly
from the cd.

to access the bios you
may have to review your
computer manual.

but generally, when you
first power up the machine
you will see a message
stating to press f2 to enter
the setup.

once the cd is set to be
the device to boot, then
save and exit.

if the win cd is in the
cd drive, then the machine
will boot from it and skip
booting from the harddisk.

after the cd executes and
installs the necessary set
up files a menu will be provided
with the option to install the
o.s. or install the repair console.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...
The CD is a Windows XP Professional disk. I am not certain that it is the
one that came with this specific computer.



"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:

is the cd a winxp
cd?

if so, then the label side
will be holographically
inscribed and you will
have a product key for
it as well.

you may be using a
recovery disk provided
by the machines' maker.

so you may have to borrow
a winxp cd.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...
When attempting to boot from the CD, I never got the option of repair console
or a command prompt to try fixboot, fixmbr or chkdsk.

Could I be doing something wrong?






"Gerry" wrote:


Jbarrick

Chkdsk can corrupt the data on the disk. It's an inherent risk. If you
have not backed up the data there are two ways you can still do so.

For either way you need a second computer. If the second computer is a
desktop and can take two drives you can remove the drive from first
computer and put it in the second computer as a slave. The computer
boots off the first (or master ) drive and you should be able to read
and copy off the data on the second drive. If the second computer does
not the capability of taking a second hard drive or it is a laptop you
can place the hard drive from the first computer in an external cradle
linked to the second computer. You can then read and copy from the drive
in the external cradle.

The next link illustrates what I mean by an external cradle:
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Enclos...c884/p753.aspx

Alternatively any small computer repair shop can back up data for you.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jbarrick wrote:
You are correct in that I don't have specific experience with the
repair console. However, I am somewhat familiar with the command
prompt and a few "basic" dos commands.

I did not want to approach this full speed ahead only to find out my
data will get erased.

Among "fixboot", "chkdsk" or "fixmbr" commands, do any of these
present a danger of wipping out my data? Is there one that would
better than the others to try first, or should I run all of these?


"databaseben" wrote:

like all tools, they can be
used as weapons as well
for those who are perversely
experienced with its power.

however, it seems that perhaps
the repair console is something
you are unfamaliar with.

it is really a window that provides
a disk prompt where you can
run commands from it.

i would describe it as being
similar to the old dos command
prompt, but i think you haven't
experienced this as well.

but if you had the opportunity
to do a run and open the cmd
window from the desktop, then
this is similar except that the
repair console is outside of the
windows enviroment.

there is more info at microsoft.com
if you want to research the subject
of the repair console.


"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
What kind of risk is there in wipping out data by running "repair
console"?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:

i suggested the commands
to help resolve disk issues
that are keeping you from
booting the o.s. at this time.

the only options you have
utilizing your win cd is to
either use the repair console
or format the disk to reinstall
sp2.

in regards to the integrity of
your data, it all depends on
what measures you had
taken in the past to ensure
or minimize risks.

------------

the other option could be
to install another disk and
install the o.s. to it and then
use it to access your faulty
drive "or"

you could take your faulty
drive and install it as a slave
on a functional computer and
use it to access the faulty drive.

but accessing data and repairing
the disk system and file system
would require to at least run the
commands i provided or repair
the faulty o.s. with a winxp cd.

however you cannot utilize your
winxp sp2 cd to repair the
winxp sp3.
--

db·´¯`·... ¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
What is my risk of loosing data on the C: drive?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:

my suggestion is to
boot with a windows
xp cd, then select the
repair/recovery console.

then you can execute
a couple of commands
at the disk prompt:

chkdsk
fixmbr
fixboot

then exit and
try to boot again
w/o the cd.

--

db·´Ãâ₠¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¯`·...ÂÃ⠀šÃ‚¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
I have a computer that runs XP Pro (SP-3) that fails to boot
every time.

This was shut down properly, however, it now will not boot back
up. Even in
safe mode it restarts just as windows should be loading.

Any ideas?







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  #32  
Old December 19th 08, 06:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
John John (MVP)
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Posts: 2,010
Default XP computer fails to reboot

Is your Windows XP CD SP2? If not slipsteam SP2 to it and try again.

John

Jbarrick wrote:

I changed the boot order for the computer in Bios.

I booted with the XP Professional CD

It came to a blue screen with the title of "Windows Setup"

At the bottom of the screen was "Setup is loading file (x)" where x was
several different files as they were being loaded.

Finally I got the blue screen of death with the following Technical
information:

*** STOP 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78CA208, 0xF78D9F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c






"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:


ok,

your first step is to
ensure your bios is
set to boot directly
from the cd.

to access the bios you
may have to review your
computer manual.

but generally, when you
first power up the machine
you will see a message
stating to press f2 to enter
the setup.

once the cd is set to be
the device to boot, then
save and exit.

if the win cd is in the
cd drive, then the machine
will boot from it and skip
booting from the harddisk.

after the cd executes and
installs the necessary set
up files a menu will be provided
with the option to install the
o.s. or install the repair console.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...

The CD is a Windows XP Professional disk. I am not certain that it is the
one that came with this specific computer.



"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:


is the cd a winxp
cd?

if so, then the label side
will be holographically
inscribed and you will
have a product key for
it as well.

you may be using a
recovery disk provided
by the machines' maker.

so you may have to borrow
a winxp cd.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...

When attempting to boot from the CD, I never got the option of repair console
or a command prompt to try fixboot, fixmbr or chkdsk.

Could I be doing something wrong?






"Gerry" wrote:


Jbarrick

Chkdsk can corrupt the data on the disk. It's an inherent risk. If you
have not backed up the data there are two ways you can still do so.

For either way you need a second computer. If the second computer is a
desktop and can take two drives you can remove the drive from first
computer and put it in the second computer as a slave. The computer
boots off the first (or master ) drive and you should be able to read
and copy off the data on the second drive. If the second computer does
not the capability of taking a second hard drive or it is a laptop you
can place the hard drive from the first computer in an external cradle
linked to the second computer. You can then read and copy from the drive
in the external cradle.

The next link illustrates what I mean by an external cradle:
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Enclos...c884/p753.aspx

Alternatively any small computer repair shop can back up data for you.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jbarrick wrote:

You are correct in that I don't have specific experience with the
repair console. However, I am somewhat familiar with the command
prompt and a few "basic" dos commands.

I did not want to approach this full speed ahead only to find out my
data will get erased.

Among "fixboot", "chkdsk" or "fixmbr" commands, do any of these
present a danger of wipping out my data? Is there one that would
better than the others to try first, or should I run all of these?


"databaseben" wrote:


like all tools, they can be
used as weapons as well
for those who are perversely
experienced with its power.

however, it seems that perhaps
the repair console is something
you are unfamaliar with.

it is really a window that provides
a disk prompt where you can
run commands from it.

i would describe it as being
similar to the old dos command
prompt, but i think you haven't
experienced this as well.

but if you had the opportunity
to do a run and open the cmd
window from the desktop, then
this is similar except that the
repair console is outside of the
windows enviroment.

there is more info at microsoft.com
if you want to research the subject
of the repair console.


"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...

What kind of risk is there in wipping out data by running "repair
console"?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:


i suggested the commands
to help resolve disk issues
that are keeping you from
booting the o.s. at this time.

the only options you have
utilizing your win cd is to
either use the repair console
or format the disk to reinstall
sp2.

in regards to the integrity of
your data, it all depends on
what measures you had
taken in the past to ensure
or minimize risks.

------------

the other option could be
to install another disk and
install the o.s. to it and then
use it to access your faulty
drive "or"

you could take your faulty
drive and install it as a slave
on a functional computer and
use it to access the faulty drive.

but accessing data and repairing
the disk system and file system
would require to at least run the
commands i provided or repair
the faulty o.s. with a winxp cd.

however you cannot utilize your
winxp sp2 cd to repair the
winxp sp3.
--

db·´¯`·. ..¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...

What is my risk of loosing data on the C: drive?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:


my suggestion is to
boot with a windows
xp cd, then select the
repair/recovery console.

then you can execute
a couple of commands
at the disk prompt:

chkdsk
fixmbr
fixboot

then exit and
try to boot again
w/o the cd.

--

db·Â ´Ã‚¯`·...à ƒâ€šÃ‚¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...

I have a computer that runs XP Pro (SP-3) that fails to boot
every time.

This was shut down properly, however, it now will not boot back
up. Even in
safe mode it restarts just as windows should be loading.

Any ideas?






  #33  
Old December 19th 08, 06:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Daave
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Posts: 3,568
Default XP computer fails to reboot

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
I changed the boot order for the computer in Bios.

I booted with the XP Professional CD

It came to a blue screen with the title of "Windows Setup"

At the bottom of the screen was "Setup is loading file (x)" where x
was
several different files as they were being loaded.

Finally I got the blue screen of death with the following Technical
information:

*** STOP 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78CA208, 0xF78D9F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c


There doesn't seem to be anything definitive on this, but I'm sure it's
hardware-related. You may need to test/replace your RAM. I also came
across this:

http://www.clipmarks.com/clipmark/AA...-0893FAE2B38A/

Do you have a separate graphics card? Is your installation media SP1 or
earlier? If yes to both, you can try slipstreaming SP2 or even SP3 to
create a more up-to-date installation CD. You may also need to change
some BIOS settings.

Since this is a hardware-related issue, you will be much better served
posting to a hardware newsgroup. Also, I noticed you didn't respond to
Anna's post. You will get much further with her than Database Ben! And
there will be the added benefit of not having to deal with five-word
lines...


  #34  
Old December 19th 08, 06:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
db.·.. >
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 733
Default XP computer fails to reboot

unfortunately, if you cannot
access your system via
the hd or via the cd;

then there is little that can
be done via the newsgroup.

that pci.sys is a driver which
may be available from the
machines homesite.

at this point, your best
option would be to access
the faulty drive from a
functional o.s. or system so
that you can retrieve your
personal files/data.

or you might want to install
another harddisk and a new
o.s. then use that functional
o.s. to access your faulty drive.

you might want to consult
the computer's homesite.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...
I changed the boot order for the computer in Bios.

I booted with the XP Professional CD

It came to a blue screen with the title of "Windows Setup"

At the bottom of the screen was "Setup is loading file (x)" where x was
several different files as they were being loaded.

Finally I got the blue screen of death with the following Technical
information:

*** STOP 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78CA208, 0xF78D9F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c






"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:

ok,

your first step is to
ensure your bios is
set to boot directly
from the cd.

to access the bios you
may have to review your
computer manual.

but generally, when you
first power up the machine
you will see a message
stating to press f2 to enter
the setup.

once the cd is set to be
the device to boot, then
save and exit.

if the win cd is in the
cd drive, then the machine
will boot from it and skip
booting from the harddisk.

after the cd executes and
installs the necessary set
up files a menu will be provided
with the option to install the
o.s. or install the repair console.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...
The CD is a Windows XP Professional disk. I am not certain that it is the
one that came with this specific computer.



"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:

is the cd a winxp
cd?

if so, then the label side
will be holographically
inscribed and you will
have a product key for
it as well.

you may be using a
recovery disk provided
by the machines' maker.

so you may have to borrow
a winxp cd.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...
When attempting to boot from the CD, I never got the option of repair console
or a command prompt to try fixboot, fixmbr or chkdsk.

Could I be doing something wrong?






"Gerry" wrote:


Jbarrick

Chkdsk can corrupt the data on the disk. It's an inherent risk. If you
have not backed up the data there are two ways you can still do so.

For either way you need a second computer. If the second computer is a
desktop and can take two drives you can remove the drive from first
computer and put it in the second computer as a slave. The computer
boots off the first (or master ) drive and you should be able to read
and copy off the data on the second drive. If the second computer does
not the capability of taking a second hard drive or it is a laptop you
can place the hard drive from the first computer in an external cradle
linked to the second computer. You can then read and copy from the drive
in the external cradle.

The next link illustrates what I mean by an external cradle:
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Enclos...c884/p753.aspx

Alternatively any small computer repair shop can back up data for you.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jbarrick wrote:
You are correct in that I don't have specific experience with the
repair console. However, I am somewhat familiar with the command
prompt and a few "basic" dos commands.

I did not want to approach this full speed ahead only to find out my
data will get erased.

Among "fixboot", "chkdsk" or "fixmbr" commands, do any of these
present a danger of wipping out my data? Is there one that would
better than the others to try first, or should I run all of these?


"databaseben" wrote:

like all tools, they can be
used as weapons as well
for those who are perversely
experienced with its power.

however, it seems that perhaps
the repair console is something
you are unfamaliar with.

it is really a window that provides
a disk prompt where you can
run commands from it.

i would describe it as being
similar to the old dos command
prompt, but i think you haven't
experienced this as well.

but if you had the opportunity
to do a run and open the cmd
window from the desktop, then
this is similar except that the
repair console is outside of the
windows enviroment.

there is more info at microsoft.com
if you want to research the subject
of the repair console.


"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
What kind of risk is there in wipping out data by running "repair
console"?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:

i suggested the commands
to help resolve disk issues
that are keeping you from
booting the o.s. at this time.

the only options you have
utilizing your win cd is to
either use the repair console
or format the disk to reinstall
sp2.

in regards to the integrity of
your data, it all depends on
what measures you had
taken in the past to ensure
or minimize risks.

------------

the other option could be
to install another disk and
install the o.s. to it and then
use it to access your faulty
drive "or"

you could take your faulty
drive and install it as a slave
on a functional computer and
use it to access the faulty drive.

but accessing data and repairing
the disk system and file system
would require to at least run the
commands i provided or repair
the faulty o.s. with a winxp cd.

however you cannot utilize your
winxp sp2 cd to repair the
winxp sp3.
--

db·´¯`·... ¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
What is my risk of loosing data on the C: drive?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:

my suggestion is to
boot with a windows
xp cd, then select the
repair/recovery console.

then you can execute
a couple of commands
at the disk prompt:

chkdsk
fixmbr
fixboot

then exit and
try to boot again
w/o the cd.

--

db·´Ãâ₠¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¯`·...ÂÃ⠀šÃ‚¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
I have a computer that runs XP Pro (SP-3) that fails to boot
every time.

This was shut down properly, however, it now will not boot back
up. Even in
safe mode it restarts just as windows should be loading.

Any ideas?








  #35  
Old December 19th 08, 08:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Jbarrick
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21
Default XP computer fails to reboot

The CD is Version 2002

How do you "slipsteam SP2"?





"John John (MVP)" wrote:

Is your Windows XP CD SP2? If not slipsteam SP2 to it and try again.

John

Jbarrick wrote:

I changed the boot order for the computer in Bios.

I booted with the XP Professional CD

It came to a blue screen with the title of "Windows Setup"

At the bottom of the screen was "Setup is loading file (x)" where x was
several different files as they were being loaded.

Finally I got the blue screen of death with the following Technical
information:

*** STOP 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78CA208, 0xF78D9F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c






"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:


ok,

your first step is to
ensure your bios is
set to boot directly
from the cd.

to access the bios you
may have to review your
computer manual.

but generally, when you
first power up the machine
you will see a message
stating to press f2 to enter
the setup.

once the cd is set to be
the device to boot, then
save and exit.

if the win cd is in the
cd drive, then the machine
will boot from it and skip
booting from the harddisk.

after the cd executes and
installs the necessary set
up files a menu will be provided
with the option to install the
o.s. or install the repair console.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...

The CD is a Windows XP Professional disk. I am not certain that it is the
one that came with this specific computer.



"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:


is the cd a winxp
cd?

if so, then the label side
will be holographically
inscribed and you will
have a product key for
it as well.

you may be using a
recovery disk provided
by the machines' maker.

so you may have to borrow
a winxp cd.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...

When attempting to boot from the CD, I never got the option of repair console
or a command prompt to try fixboot, fixmbr or chkdsk.

Could I be doing something wrong?






"Gerry" wrote:


Jbarrick

Chkdsk can corrupt the data on the disk. It's an inherent risk. If you
have not backed up the data there are two ways you can still do so.

For either way you need a second computer. If the second computer is a
desktop and can take two drives you can remove the drive from first
computer and put it in the second computer as a slave. The computer
boots off the first (or master ) drive and you should be able to read
and copy off the data on the second drive. If the second computer does
not the capability of taking a second hard drive or it is a laptop you
can place the hard drive from the first computer in an external cradle
linked to the second computer. You can then read and copy from the drive
in the external cradle.

The next link illustrates what I mean by an external cradle:
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Enclos...c884/p753.aspx

Alternatively any small computer repair shop can back up data for you.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jbarrick wrote:

You are correct in that I don't have specific experience with the
repair console. However, I am somewhat familiar with the command
prompt and a few "basic" dos commands.

I did not want to approach this full speed ahead only to find out my
data will get erased.

Among "fixboot", "chkdsk" or "fixmbr" commands, do any of these
present a danger of wipping out my data? Is there one that would
better than the others to try first, or should I run all of these?


"databaseben" wrote:


like all tools, they can be
used as weapons as well
for those who are perversely
experienced with its power.

however, it seems that perhaps
the repair console is something
you are unfamaliar with.

it is really a window that provides
a disk prompt where you can
run commands from it.

i would describe it as being
similar to the old dos command
prompt, but i think you haven't
experienced this as well.

but if you had the opportunity
to do a run and open the cmd
window from the desktop, then
this is similar except that the
repair console is outside of the
windows enviroment.

there is more info at microsoft.com
if you want to research the subject
of the repair console.


"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...

What kind of risk is there in wipping out data by running "repair
console"?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:


i suggested the commands
to help resolve disk issues
that are keeping you from
booting the o.s. at this time.

the only options you have
utilizing your win cd is to
either use the repair console
or format the disk to reinstall
sp2.

in regards to the integrity of
your data, it all depends on
what measures you had
taken in the past to ensure
or minimize risks.

------------

the other option could be
to install another disk and
install the o.s. to it and then
use it to access your faulty
drive "or"

you could take your faulty
drive and install it as a slave
on a functional computer and
use it to access the faulty drive.

but accessing data and repairing
the disk system and file system
would require to at least run the
commands i provided or repair
the faulty o.s. with a winxp cd.

however you cannot utilize your
winxp sp2 cd to repair the
winxp sp3.
--

db·´¯`·. ..¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...

What is my risk of loosing data on the C: drive?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:


my suggestion is to
boot with a windows
xp cd, then select the
repair/recovery console.

then you can execute
a couple of commands
at the disk prompt:

chkdsk
fixmbr
fixboot

then exit and
try to boot again
w/o the cd.

--

db·Â ´Ã‚¯`·...à ƒâ€šÃ‚¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message

  #36  
Old December 19th 08, 10:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
John John (MVP)
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,010
Default XP computer fails to reboot

Combining Windows XP with Service Pack 2 for reinstallation (Part 1:
Introduction)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/

(It's a four part article, follow the links to the other parts. It's
fairly easy and the instructions are quite straightforward)

John

Jbarrick wrote:

The CD is Version 2002

How do you "slipsteam SP2"?





"John John (MVP)" wrote:


Is your Windows XP CD SP2? If not slipsteam SP2 to it and try again.

John

Jbarrick wrote:


I changed the boot order for the computer in Bios.

I booted with the XP Professional CD

It came to a blue screen with the title of "Windows Setup"

At the bottom of the screen was "Setup is loading file (x)" where x was
several different files as they were being loaded.

Finally I got the blue screen of death with the following Technical
information:

*** STOP 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78CA208, 0xF78D9F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c






"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



ok,

your first step is to
ensure your bios is
set to boot directly

from the cd.

to access the bios you
may have to review your
computer manual.

but generally, when you
first power up the machine
you will see a message
stating to press f2 to enter
the setup.

once the cd is set to be
the device to boot, then
save and exit.

if the win cd is in the
cd drive, then the machine
will boot from it and skip
booting from the harddisk.

after the cd executes and
installs the necessary set
up files a menu will be provided
with the option to install the
o.s. or install the repair console.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...


The CD is a Windows XP Professional disk. I am not certain that it is the
one that came with this specific computer.



"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



is the cd a winxp
cd?

if so, then the label side
will be holographically
inscribed and you will
have a product key for
it as well.

you may be using a
recovery disk provided
by the machines' maker.

so you may have to borrow
a winxp cd.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...


When attempting to boot from the CD, I never got the option of repair console
or a command prompt to try fixboot, fixmbr or chkdsk.

Could I be doing something wrong?






"Gerry" wrote:



Jbarrick

Chkdsk can corrupt the data on the disk. It's an inherent risk. If you
have not backed up the data there are two ways you can still do so.

For either way you need a second computer. If the second computer is a
desktop and can take two drives you can remove the drive from first
computer and put it in the second computer as a slave. The computer
boots off the first (or master ) drive and you should be able to read
and copy off the data on the second drive. If the second computer does
not the capability of taking a second hard drive or it is a laptop you
can place the hard drive from the first computer in an external cradle
linked to the second computer. You can then read and copy from the drive
in the external cradle.

The next link illustrates what I mean by an external cradle:
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Enclos...c884/p753.aspx

Alternatively any small computer repair shop can back up data for you.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jbarrick wrote:


You are correct in that I don't have specific experience with the
repair console. However, I am somewhat familiar with the command
prompt and a few "basic" dos commands.

I did not want to approach this full speed ahead only to find out my
data will get erased.

Among "fixboot", "chkdsk" or "fixmbr" commands, do any of these
present a danger of wipping out my data? Is there one that would
better than the others to try first, or should I run all of these?


"databaseben" wrote:



like all tools, they can be
used as weapons as well
for those who are perversely
experienced with its power.

however, it seems that perhaps
the repair console is something
you are unfamaliar with.

it is really a window that provides
a disk prompt where you can
run commands from it.

i would describe it as being
similar to the old dos command
prompt, but i think you haven't
experienced this as well.

but if you had the opportunity
to do a run and open the cmd
window from the desktop, then
this is similar except that the
repair console is outside of the
windows enviroment.

there is more info at microsoft.com
if you want to research the subject
of the repair console.


"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...


What kind of risk is there in wipping out data by running "repair
console"?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



i suggested the commands
to help resolve disk issues
that are keeping you from
booting the o.s. at this time.

the only options you have
utilizing your win cd is to
either use the repair console
or format the disk to reinstall
sp2.

in regards to the integrity of
your data, it all depends on
what measures you had
taken in the past to ensure
or minimize risks.

------------

the other option could be
to install another disk and
install the o.s. to it and then
use it to access your faulty
drive "or"

you could take your faulty
drive and install it as a slave
on a functional computer and
use it to access the faulty drive.

but accessing data and repairing
the disk system and file system
would require to at least run the
commands i provided or repair
the faulty o.s. with a winxp cd.

however you cannot utilize your
winxp sp2 cd to repair the
winxp sp3.
--

db·´¯` ·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...


What is my risk of loosing data on the C: drive?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



my suggestion is to
boot with a windows
xp cd, then select the
repair/recovery console.

then you can execute
a couple of commands
at the disk prompt:

chkdsk
fixmbr
fixboot

then exit and
try to boot again
w/o the cd.

--

db·ÂÃ⠀šÃ‚´Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¯`·... ¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message


  #37  
Old December 19th 08, 10:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Jbarrick
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21
Default XP computer fails to reboot

I found this article
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp

My CD burning has to be the Windows built in service. Hopefully I have
burned the disk correctly.

Basically I moved the contents to the disk, plus the *.img file and clicked
"Write Files to Disk" from the left column.



"John John (MVP)" wrote:

Combining Windows XP with Service Pack 2 for reinstallation (Part 1:
Introduction)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/

(It's a four part article, follow the links to the other parts. It's
fairly easy and the instructions are quite straightforward)

John

Jbarrick wrote:

The CD is Version 2002

How do you "slipsteam SP2"?





"John John (MVP)" wrote:


Is your Windows XP CD SP2? If not slipsteam SP2 to it and try again.

John

Jbarrick wrote:


I changed the boot order for the computer in Bios.

I booted with the XP Professional CD

It came to a blue screen with the title of "Windows Setup"

At the bottom of the screen was "Setup is loading file (x)" where x was
several different files as they were being loaded.

Finally I got the blue screen of death with the following Technical
information:

*** STOP 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78CA208, 0xF78D9F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c






"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



ok,

your first step is to
ensure your bios is
set to boot directly

from the cd.

to access the bios you
may have to review your
computer manual.

but generally, when you
first power up the machine
you will see a message
stating to press f2 to enter
the setup.

once the cd is set to be
the device to boot, then
save and exit.

if the win cd is in the
cd drive, then the machine
will boot from it and skip
booting from the harddisk.

after the cd executes and
installs the necessary set
up files a menu will be provided
with the option to install the
o.s. or install the repair console.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...


The CD is a Windows XP Professional disk. I am not certain that it is the
one that came with this specific computer.



"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



is the cd a winxp
cd?

if so, then the label side
will be holographically
inscribed and you will
have a product key for
it as well.

you may be using a
recovery disk provided
by the machines' maker.

so you may have to borrow
a winxp cd.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...


When attempting to boot from the CD, I never got the option of repair console
or a command prompt to try fixboot, fixmbr or chkdsk.

Could I be doing something wrong?






"Gerry" wrote:



Jbarrick

Chkdsk can corrupt the data on the disk. It's an inherent risk. If you
have not backed up the data there are two ways you can still do so.

For either way you need a second computer. If the second computer is a
desktop and can take two drives you can remove the drive from first
computer and put it in the second computer as a slave. The computer
boots off the first (or master ) drive and you should be able to read
and copy off the data on the second drive. If the second computer does
not the capability of taking a second hard drive or it is a laptop you
can place the hard drive from the first computer in an external cradle
linked to the second computer. You can then read and copy from the drive
in the external cradle.

The next link illustrates what I mean by an external cradle:
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Enclos...c884/p753.aspx

Alternatively any small computer repair shop can back up data for you.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jbarrick wrote:


You are correct in that I don't have specific experience with the
repair console. However, I am somewhat familiar with the command
prompt and a few "basic" dos commands.

I did not want to approach this full speed ahead only to find out my
data will get erased.

Among "fixboot", "chkdsk" or "fixmbr" commands, do any of these
present a danger of wipping out my data? Is there one that would
better than the others to try first, or should I run all of these?


"databaseben" wrote:



like all tools, they can be
used as weapons as well
for those who are perversely
experienced with its power.

however, it seems that perhaps
the repair console is something
you are unfamaliar with.

it is really a window that provides
a disk prompt where you can
run commands from it.

i would describe it as being
similar to the old dos command
prompt, but i think you haven't
experienced this as well.

but if you had the opportunity
to do a run and open the cmd
window from the desktop, then
this is similar except that the
repair console is outside of the
windows enviroment.

there is more info at microsoft.com
if you want to research the subject
of the repair console.


"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...


What kind of risk is there in wipping out data by running "repair
console"?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



i suggested the commands
to help resolve disk issues
that are keeping you from
booting the o.s. at this time.

the only options you have
utilizing your win cd is to
either use the repair console
or format the disk to reinstall
sp2.

in regards to the integrity of
your data, it all depends on
what measures you had
taken in the past to ensure
or minimize risks.

------------

the other option could be
to install another disk and
install the o.s. to it and then
use it to access your faulty
drive "or"

you could take your faulty
drive and install it as a slave
on a functional computer and
use it to access the faulty drive.

but accessing data and repairing
the disk system and file system
would require to at least run the
commands i provided or repair
the faulty o.s. with a winxp cd.

however you cannot utilize your
winxp sp2 cd to repair the
winxp sp3.
--

db·´¯` ·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...


What is my risk of loosing data on the C: drive?

  #38  
Old December 19th 08, 10:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Jbarrick
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21
Default XP computer fails to reboot

The CD was not bootable.




"Jbarrick" wrote:

I found this article
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp

My CD burning has to be the Windows built in service. Hopefully I have
burned the disk correctly.

Basically I moved the contents to the disk, plus the *.img file and clicked
"Write Files to Disk" from the left column.



"John John (MVP)" wrote:

Combining Windows XP with Service Pack 2 for reinstallation (Part 1:
Introduction)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/

(It's a four part article, follow the links to the other parts. It's
fairly easy and the instructions are quite straightforward)

John

Jbarrick wrote:

The CD is Version 2002

How do you "slipsteam SP2"?





"John John (MVP)" wrote:


Is your Windows XP CD SP2? If not slipsteam SP2 to it and try again.

John

Jbarrick wrote:


I changed the boot order for the computer in Bios.

I booted with the XP Professional CD

It came to a blue screen with the title of "Windows Setup"

At the bottom of the screen was "Setup is loading file (x)" where x was
several different files as they were being loaded.

Finally I got the blue screen of death with the following Technical
information:

*** STOP 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78CA208, 0xF78D9F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c






"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



ok,

your first step is to
ensure your bios is
set to boot directly

from the cd.

to access the bios you
may have to review your
computer manual.

but generally, when you
first power up the machine
you will see a message
stating to press f2 to enter
the setup.

once the cd is set to be
the device to boot, then
save and exit.

if the win cd is in the
cd drive, then the machine
will boot from it and skip
booting from the harddisk.

after the cd executes and
installs the necessary set
up files a menu will be provided
with the option to install the
o.s. or install the repair console.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...


The CD is a Windows XP Professional disk. I am not certain that it is the
one that came with this specific computer.



"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



is the cd a winxp
cd?

if so, then the label side
will be holographically
inscribed and you will
have a product key for
it as well.

you may be using a
recovery disk provided
by the machines' maker.

so you may have to borrow
a winxp cd.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

"Jbarrick" wrote in message ...


When attempting to boot from the CD, I never got the option of repair console
or a command prompt to try fixboot, fixmbr or chkdsk.

Could I be doing something wrong?






"Gerry" wrote:



Jbarrick

Chkdsk can corrupt the data on the disk. It's an inherent risk. If you
have not backed up the data there are two ways you can still do so.

For either way you need a second computer. If the second computer is a
desktop and can take two drives you can remove the drive from first
computer and put it in the second computer as a slave. The computer
boots off the first (or master ) drive and you should be able to read
and copy off the data on the second drive. If the second computer does
not the capability of taking a second hard drive or it is a laptop you
can place the hard drive from the first computer in an external cradle
linked to the second computer. You can then read and copy from the drive
in the external cradle.

The next link illustrates what I mean by an external cradle:
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Enclos...c884/p753.aspx

Alternatively any small computer repair shop can back up data for you.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jbarrick wrote:


You are correct in that I don't have specific experience with the
repair console. However, I am somewhat familiar with the command
prompt and a few "basic" dos commands.

I did not want to approach this full speed ahead only to find out my
data will get erased.

Among "fixboot", "chkdsk" or "fixmbr" commands, do any of these
present a danger of wipping out my data? Is there one that would
better than the others to try first, or should I run all of these?


"databaseben" wrote:



like all tools, they can be
used as weapons as well
for those who are perversely
experienced with its power.

however, it seems that perhaps
the repair console is something
you are unfamaliar with.

it is really a window that provides
a disk prompt where you can
run commands from it.

i would describe it as being
similar to the old dos command
prompt, but i think you haven't
experienced this as well.

but if you had the opportunity
to do a run and open the cmd
window from the desktop, then
this is similar except that the
repair console is outside of the
windows enviroment.

there is more info at microsoft.com
if you want to research the subject
of the repair console.


"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...


What kind of risk is there in wipping out data by running "repair
console"?




"db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." wrote:



i suggested the commands
to help resolve disk issues
that are keeping you from
booting the o.s. at this time.

the only options you have
utilizing your win cd is to
either use the repair console
or format the disk to reinstall
sp2.

in regards to the integrity of
your data, it all depends on
what measures you had
taken in the past to ensure
or minimize risks.

------------

the other option could be
to install another disk and
install the o.s. to it and then
use it to access your faulty
drive "or"

you could take your faulty
drive and install it as a slave
on a functional computer and
use it to access the faulty drive.

but accessing data and repairing
the disk system and file system
would require to at least run the
commands i provided or repair
the faulty o.s. with a winxp cd.

however you cannot utilize your
winxp sp2 cd to repair the
winxp sp3.
--

  #39  
Old December 19th 08, 10:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Daave
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,568
Default XP computer fails to reboot

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
I found this article
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp

My CD burning has to be the Windows built in service. Hopefully I
have
burned the disk correctly.


No, you need to use a program such as ImgBurn or CDBurnerXP (both free)
or Nero or Roxio, etc. to burn an image. With Windows you are merely
copying.


  #40  
Old December 19th 08, 11:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Jbarrick
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21
Default XP computer fails to reboot

I downloaded a installed CDBurnerXP.

The new CD that I burned returned a "Cannot boot from CD: Code 4" error

I don't know if I burned the CD wrong or if booting will Never be possible





"Daave" wrote:

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
I found this article
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp

My CD burning has to be the Windows built in service. Hopefully I
have
burned the disk correctly.


No, you need to use a program such as ImgBurn or CDBurnerXP (both free)
or Nero or Roxio, etc. to burn an image. With Windows you are merely
copying.



  #41  
Old December 20th 08, 03:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Daave
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,568
Default XP computer fails to reboot

"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...
I downloaded a installed CDBurnerXP.

The new CD that I burned returned a "Cannot boot from CD: Code 4"
error

I don't know if I burned the CD wrong or if booting will Never be
possible


If you can boot off that CD in another PC, then you know that you burned
the CD correctly. If that is the case, have a look at this page:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330181

Also look at my other post about a graphics card in your PCI slot. You
may still need to change some setting(s) in your BIOS.

And since this is a hardware issue, I am sure you will have more success
in the following newsgroup:

alt . comp . hardware . pc-homebuilt (with no spaces!)

or this newsgroup:

microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware

In the event you burned the CD incorrectly, use this page as a guide to
burn another one:

"Creating bootable Windows 2000/XP/2003 Disc (CDBurnerXP 3)"
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=359

Here is another slipstreaming guide from the same site:

http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=295

Note that you *can* slipstream SP3 instead of SP2, which will save you a
lot of time!


  #42  
Old December 20th 08, 07:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
John John (MVP)
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,010
Default XP computer fails to reboot

You are already capable of booting your computer with your present
Windows XP CD, there is no reason why you should not be able to boot
with a properly created slipstreamed CD. You can't boot because the
slipstreamed CD was not created properly, the boot image was not
properly burned to the CD. You might find it easier to have another
program (nLite) create a slipstreamed bootable ISO image for you, try
he http://www.cdburnerxp.se/help/kb/8

John

Jbarrick wrote:

I downloaded a installed CDBurnerXP.

The new CD that I burned returned a "Cannot boot from CD: Code 4" error

I don't know if I burned the CD wrong or if booting will Never be possible





"Daave" wrote:


"Jbarrick" wrote in message
...

I found this article
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp

My CD burning has to be the Windows built in service. Hopefully I
have
burned the disk correctly.


No, you need to use a program such as ImgBurn or CDBurnerXP (both free)
or Nero or Roxio, etc. to burn an image. With Windows you are merely
copying.



  #43  
Old December 28th 08, 05:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
williamf
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default XP computer fails to reboot



"Jbarrick" wrote:

I have a computer that runs XP Pro (SP-3) that fails to boot every time.

This was shut down properly, however, it now will not boot back up. Even in
safe mode it restarts just as windows should be loading.

Any ideas?

I had a similar problem one day after buying a new PC, it seems that the
store tried to pawn off memory sticks which were 266mhz when they should have
been 400mhz, you may have a faulty memory stick. try alternating them. You
may have a failing power supply as I did. Have you installed a new
power-hungry video card?Anyhow: Months later I couldn't get past the
"entering setup" splash page. The ide ribbon cable was replaced. And I also
had to install a 450watt PSU.
 




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