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  #31  
Old April 16th 03, 05:23 AM
Newt
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I didnt have any idea how many replies this post would generate, you amuse
amaze me!
thx


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  #36  
Old April 16th 03, 08:37 AM
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"Ghost" wrote in message
...

Disabling Windows XP, for example, doesn't disable the computer, just
Windows XP. So, if you have a dual boot system with Linux on the other

side,
your computer isn't disabled, is it?


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In any event, they cannot "deactivate" Windows XP if it is installed on
your system. This would be considered by the feds as a Denial of Service.

Plain and Simple.


Yep, plain and simply wrong. If the computer still works, they didn't
disable it, just their software. That doesn't disable your computer so it
wouldn't be considered anything by them.


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  #37  
Old April 16th 03, 08:38 AM
gregh
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"Ghost" wrote in message
...
In article , "gregh"
wrote:

"Newt" wrote in message
...
A friend has told me that if you use a copied version of xp or me that

it
sends details to MS and that MS have the ability to send info back in

Visual
Basic to disable your pc. I didnt think this would be true but

thought
I'd
ask you lot to shed some light on this.
He seems to think that if there is more than one copy of OS with same

or
generated cd key that MS can track you down or render your pc useless
remotely.
True or false?
What are the real risks of this?
Newt



A) Get a LEGAL copy never a pirated version!

B) Yes info is sent back whenever you do a Windows Update over the web.

C) Yes you can be remotely disabled with some stuff. This extends to

other
products, too, though.

D) If they can remotely disable, it is unlikely that a firewall would

stop
them. As you well know, anyone with the ability and desire to get onto

your
machine online can only be stopped by pulling the plug!


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Another ignorant post from another ignorant rumor monger... Sorry gregh-
but your info is bad...


That's fine mate. Your knowledge is non-existent so your info isn't
insulting!


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  #38  
Old April 16th 03, 09:07 AM
Kadaitcha Man
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gregh wrote:

That's fine mate. Your knowledge is non-existent so your info isn't
insulting!


.... said the king of retards



  #39  
Old April 16th 03, 09:45 AM
Michael Stevens
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relic wrote:
As predicted, Newt wrote this:
A friend has told me that if you use a copied version of xp or me
that it sends details to MS and that MS have the ability to send info
back in Visual Basic to disable your pc. I didnt think this would be
true but thought I'd ask you lot to shed some light on this.
He seems to think that if there is more than one copy of OS with same
or generated cd key that MS can track you down or render your pc
useless remotely.
True or false?
What are the real risks of this?
Newt


Bill *does* collect copies of your Porn collection though.


That has not been proven. 8-)
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http://michaelstevenstech.com



  #40  
Old April 16th 03, 02:11 PM
Ghost
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In article , "gregh"
wrote:

"Ghost" wrote in message
...

Disabling Windows XP, for example, doesn't disable the computer, just
Windows XP. So, if you have a dual boot system with Linux on the other

side,
your computer isn't disabled, is it?


--
Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!


In any event, they cannot "deactivate" Windows XP if it is installed on
your system. This would be considered by the feds as a Denial of Service.

Plain and Simple.


Yep, plain and simply wrong. If the computer still works, they didn't
disable it, just their software. That doesn't disable your computer so it
wouldn't be considered anything by them.


--
Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!




Gregh...

Are you dain bramaged or what?

Stop arguing your uninformed opinion. They cannot disable the OS- it is
Denial of Service, a felony.

They cannot do it, even if you are in Australia. I am sure the aussies
have a similar law, but even if they dont, the US law will cover that
action since they are an American owned corporation.

Sheesh.

I refuse to get in a battle of the wits with an unarmed person. lol

And stop freaking cross-posting to all these NG!
  #41  
Old April 16th 03, 02:38 PM
Graham
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Xref: kermit alt.certification.a-plus:72213 alt.certification.mcse:136770 alt.os.windows-xp:258301 microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics:99611 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:538266 microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:273126 microsoft.public.windows
xp.newusers:70805

That is a stupid argument even for you Greph. Jusy how many angels can dance
on the head of a pin?


  #42  
Old April 16th 03, 03:14 PM
relic
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As predicted, Michael Stevens wrote this:
relic wrote:
As predicted, Newt wrote this:
A friend has told me that if you use a copied version of xp or me
that it sends details to MS and that MS have the ability to send
info back in Visual Basic to disable your pc. I didnt think this
would be true but thought I'd ask you lot to shed some light on
this.
He seems to think that if there is more than one copy of OS with
same or generated cd key that MS can track you down or render your
pc useless remotely.
True or false?
What are the real risks of this?
Newt


Bill *does* collect copies of your Porn collection though.


That has not been proven. 8-)


ROFL.
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  #43  
Old April 16th 03, 03:38 PM
Dan Beale
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An OEM OS *must* stay with the machine it was installed on.

If your pc went belly up, why didn't you use the OEM disc that came with
your machine to recover it?

If you're asking me what you should do, get one pc working with the OEM
copy. That has to be the machine that the OEM OS was supplied with. There
might be some kind of recovery disk. Does this suck? Yes, OEM recovery
discs do suck big time.

Then I'd get another pc, and upgrade it.

You may need to phone to sort out activation, but once it's been sortedout
its done.

Good luck!

(Im not looking forward to tcpa and am looking at "other os's", A bsd
variant at the moment.)

"Colin" wrote in message
...
Very interesting site. However, ...

I had a computer with an OEM version of XP on which went belly up.

Thinking
it not a problem I formatted the drive, bought an upgrade version of XP

and
installed it using my original OEM win98 version. I stupidly thought I

would
be able to use the OEM XP key to install the upgrade version but it wasn't
allowed. Due to time constraints I then used the upgrade key. I then tried
to install the upgrade XP on my original machine, but it was rejected.

So I have two keys, one version of the software and one computer with XP.
Surely I should have two computers with XP? What should I do?


"Michael Stevens" wrote in message
...
Newt wrote:
A friend has told me that if you use a copied version of xp or me
that it sends details to MS and that MS have the ability to send info
back in Visual Basic to disable your pc. I didnt think this would be
true but thought I'd ask you lot to shed some light on this.
He seems to think that if there is more than one copy of OS with same
or generated cd key that MS can track you down or render your pc
useless remotely.
True or false?
What are the real risks of this?
Newt


Newt,
Check the link below for some non-urban legend information on

activation.
--

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://michaelstevenstech.com









  #44  
Old April 16th 03, 04:46 PM
Bill Martin
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More info on XP activation.
http://aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


Thanks for the link Michael - this is interesting stuff. From idle curiosity
though, does XP ever update it's stored system features list? For example, I
suspect most people at some point upgrade the amount of RAM they have.
Initially, as I understand it, XP recognizes this as a system change but not
a large enough one to cry foul. After a month of use or some such, does XP
come to realize it's normal for the machine to have extra memory, or does it
forever more see that as a change to be wary about?

I guess I'm asking whether this is an adaptive algorithm or is it cast in
stone (silicon) when XP is first activated?

Bill
  #45  
Old April 16th 03, 05:16 PM
Colin
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The problem was I didn't have an OEM disk nor a system restore disk.

"Dan Beale" wrote in message
...
An OEM OS *must* stay with the machine it was installed on.

If your pc went belly up, why didn't you use the OEM disc that came with
your machine to recover it?

If you're asking me what you should do, get one pc working with the OEM
copy. That has to be the machine that the OEM OS was supplied with.

There
might be some kind of recovery disk. Does this suck? Yes, OEM recovery
discs do suck big time.

Then I'd get another pc, and upgrade it.

You may need to phone to sort out activation, but once it's been sortedout
its done.

Good luck!

(Im not looking forward to tcpa and am looking at "other os's", A bsd
variant at the moment.)

"Colin" wrote in message
...
Very interesting site. However, ...

I had a computer with an OEM version of XP on which went belly up.

Thinking
it not a problem I formatted the drive, bought an upgrade version of XP

and
installed it using my original OEM win98 version. I stupidly thought I

would
be able to use the OEM XP key to install the upgrade version but it

wasn't
allowed. Due to time constraints I then used the upgrade key. I then

tried
to install the upgrade XP on my original machine, but it was rejected.

So I have two keys, one version of the software and one computer with

XP.
Surely I should have two computers with XP? What should I do?


"Michael Stevens" wrote in message
...
Newt wrote:
A friend has told me that if you use a copied version of xp or me
that it sends details to MS and that MS have the ability to send

info
back in Visual Basic to disable your pc. I didnt think this would

be
true but thought I'd ask you lot to shed some light on this.
He seems to think that if there is more than one copy of OS with

same
or generated cd key that MS can track you down or render your pc
useless remotely.
True or false?
What are the real risks of this?
Newt

Newt,
Check the link below for some non-urban legend information on

activation.
--

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://michaelstevenstech.com











 




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