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Are they any people that still use thier mvp? When they are not?
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MVPs and the MP leads nominate the candidates.
tom "Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message ... | realize that this is not the correct forum for placing this post, | however... My question concerning the MVP award is: | | How does one achieve or get recognized for this award? The MVP FAQs are | vague at best. Who nominates an MVP? | | | -- | Best of luck! | | Michael D. Alligood | MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, | i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI | | | |
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MVPs and the MP leads nominate the candidates.
tom "Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message ... | realize that this is not the correct forum for placing this post, | however... My question concerning the MVP award is: | | How does one achieve or get recognized for this award? The MVP FAQs are | vague at best. Who nominates an MVP? | | | -- | Best of luck! | | Michael D. Alligood | MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, | i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI | | | |
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MVPs and the MP leads nominate the candidates.
tom "Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message ... | realize that this is not the correct forum for placing this post, | however... My question concerning the MVP award is: | | How does one achieve or get recognized for this award? The MVP FAQs are | vague at best. Who nominates an MVP? | | | -- | Best of luck! | | Michael D. Alligood | MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, | i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI | | | |
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Thanks Rick for your response. I'll take your advice and do the best I can
to help out in any way I can. -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi Michael, It's a fair question, and this place is as good as any. Nominations are generally done by current MVP's who notice someone posting responses that possesses the preferred traits of a new MVP. Namely they include, but are not limited to: accuracy (though everyone occasionally misfires), consistency (shows that they have an understanding of the subject matter), longevity (no "flash in the pan" types, we like those that are committed to helping others), and congeniality (abusiveness is not a friendly trait, and a sense of compassion is often necessary to help those that are less "in the know"). -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message ... realize that this is not the correct forum for placing this post, however... My question concerning the MVP award is: How does one achieve or get recognized for this award? The MVP FAQs are vague at best. Who nominates an MVP? -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI |
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Thanks Rick for your response. I'll take your advice and do the best I can
to help out in any way I can. -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi Michael, It's a fair question, and this place is as good as any. Nominations are generally done by current MVP's who notice someone posting responses that possesses the preferred traits of a new MVP. Namely they include, but are not limited to: accuracy (though everyone occasionally misfires), consistency (shows that they have an understanding of the subject matter), longevity (no "flash in the pan" types, we like those that are committed to helping others), and congeniality (abusiveness is not a friendly trait, and a sense of compassion is often necessary to help those that are less "in the know"). -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message ... realize that this is not the correct forum for placing this post, however... My question concerning the MVP award is: How does one achieve or get recognized for this award? The MVP FAQs are vague at best. Who nominates an MVP? -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI |
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Thanks Rick for your response. I'll take your advice and do the best I can
to help out in any way I can. -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi Michael, It's a fair question, and this place is as good as any. Nominations are generally done by current MVP's who notice someone posting responses that possesses the preferred traits of a new MVP. Namely they include, but are not limited to: accuracy (though everyone occasionally misfires), consistency (shows that they have an understanding of the subject matter), longevity (no "flash in the pan" types, we like those that are committed to helping others), and congeniality (abusiveness is not a friendly trait, and a sense of compassion is often necessary to help those that are less "in the know"). -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message ... realize that this is not the correct forum for placing this post, however... My question concerning the MVP award is: How does one achieve or get recognized for this award? The MVP FAQs are vague at best. Who nominates an MVP? -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI |
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in
: A. Since you cannot site specific examples, your observation is mute. ???? Did you mean "moot"? |
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in
: A. Since you cannot site specific examples, your observation is mute. ???? Did you mean "moot"? |
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in
: A. Since you cannot site specific examples, your observation is mute. ???? Did you mean "moot"? |
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message = ... Q. "Do MVPs as a group ever deny..... based on themselves not being = friendly? A. MVPs are individuals with unique abilities and personalities. As = a group, all are friendly. If I answer a question, and it solves an = issue, is that not being friendly? WTF does this part of "denial" have to do with being friendly as part of = getting the award as Rick explained it, that wasn't what I stated your = "denial" was about; nice side step try, President Bush! Q. "I can name quite a few who are not friendly, condescending, and = at time, ungrateful." =20 A. "Alright, name them and provide several specific newsgroup posts = to substantiate your claim". Oh please I don't want to go there and search, but most of you know how = I ripped on you for being unfriendly, mainly by you being accusatory to = not maiking your standards. It was just recently you got away (though = you still do it from time to time) from accusing people of piracy when = they were asking certain questions. Many times you were downright = unfriendly and accusatory, ass in "shoot first, ask questions second". Q. "I have yet to see him (CF) express a reply of gratitude to one = who thanked him. =20 A. Not necessary....have you ever sent a thank-you note to someone = that already sent one? HUH? That doesn't make sense, but do you ever say "you're welcome", you = ingrate? I have never seen it from you yet! Seems redundant and turns a newsgroup thread into a chat session. =20 I didn't say that, why quote it? =20 Q. "He even doesn't acknowledge his own peers that tell him when he = makes these errors". =20 A. Private email does this best and you have no knowledge how I = communicate with peers. Poor cop out Carey, I have seen MVPs call you down, before you were an = MVP, and you got all ****y about it, instead of just admitting fault = when you were wrong. Now that you got the title, you can avoid it. I am = sure you don't enjoy being embarassed in private also, so you avoid it = altogether, by not addressing it in any venue! Even if you addessed it prviately, and you were called on it, you still = make the same rrors, which tells me my last sentence in the previous = paragraph seems true. Q. "Also, expressing corporate zealotry is very unappealing, and only = entails getting nothing but biased=20 remarks from him." =20 A. Since you cannot site specific examples, your observation is mute. Sure I can, like when you ripped on OPen Office for someone who said = they couldn't afford the ridiculous price MS charges for the office = products. Someone recommended Open Office, and you replied get a REAL = office product that is MORE Secure, and went to express how poor those = "other" products are and MS is better, though you don't explain your = experience with them. I am sure you really had experience using them = too, eh?.=20 I have seen you rip Linux users seeking help here, simply because you = stated it was inferior, though you have no experience with it (I use = Mandrake 10.0, it is very sweet). I prefer XP because it supports more = software, it is user friendly, and I also like it a great deal. I = actually have liked every version of Windows from 95 until now, except = for ME (Crapware). But I also use XP because most software makers know = Windows has most of the market, and will not spend their resources for = others making software for them, so it is a necessity of sorts. If more quality software were written for the really good distros of = Linux, I would switch, because it is cheaper, and I can write to it. = Fortunately, most quality PC makers provide Windows, so the expense is a = non-reason for me. But the expense of Office is a travesty, but I need = it for work, as they use it there. =20 Q. "He will not recommend 3rd party product purchases unless they are = certified by MS". =20 A. And a good doctor will only prescribe medication approved by the = FDA. And a good doctor can ONLY precribe medicine approved by the FDA, you = twirp! Bad example, and an extremely poor attempt at using an analogy! =20 Q. " I think it is very un-MVP like to recommend a registry = cleaner/maintenance program..." =20 A. Why? The only one I recommend is System Mechanic, and it's = featured in the Windows Catalog. Being that nearly every other MVP in here other than you recommends to = others NOT to use registry cleaners, that should be telling in itself. = Just because MS approves it (which could be for marketing purposes, = rather than a real benefit), doesn't make it safe. Most people don't = know what is being cleaned out anyway, and those cleaners can remove = stuff that is non-Windows related, that the person NEEDS on their PC. = Uninstalling things is the best way. =20 --=20 Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User -- Tom Not a Microsoft MVP, and certainly not deserving of it based on Rick = Rogers standards. Be Smart! Protect your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Be Smart, really learn and express your knowledge of Windows, not just = link it! Be nice! |
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message = ... Q. "Do MVPs as a group ever deny..... based on themselves not being = friendly? A. MVPs are individuals with unique abilities and personalities. As = a group, all are friendly. If I answer a question, and it solves an = issue, is that not being friendly? WTF does this part of "denial" have to do with being friendly as part of = getting the award as Rick explained it, that wasn't what I stated your = "denial" was about; nice side step try, President Bush! Q. "I can name quite a few who are not friendly, condescending, and = at time, ungrateful." =20 A. "Alright, name them and provide several specific newsgroup posts = to substantiate your claim". Oh please I don't want to go there and search, but most of you know how = I ripped on you for being unfriendly, mainly by you being accusatory to = not maiking your standards. It was just recently you got away (though = you still do it from time to time) from accusing people of piracy when = they were asking certain questions. Many times you were downright = unfriendly and accusatory, ass in "shoot first, ask questions second". Q. "I have yet to see him (CF) express a reply of gratitude to one = who thanked him. =20 A. Not necessary....have you ever sent a thank-you note to someone = that already sent one? HUH? That doesn't make sense, but do you ever say "you're welcome", you = ingrate? I have never seen it from you yet! Seems redundant and turns a newsgroup thread into a chat session. =20 I didn't say that, why quote it? =20 Q. "He even doesn't acknowledge his own peers that tell him when he = makes these errors". =20 A. Private email does this best and you have no knowledge how I = communicate with peers. Poor cop out Carey, I have seen MVPs call you down, before you were an = MVP, and you got all ****y about it, instead of just admitting fault = when you were wrong. Now that you got the title, you can avoid it. I am = sure you don't enjoy being embarassed in private also, so you avoid it = altogether, by not addressing it in any venue! Even if you addessed it prviately, and you were called on it, you still = make the same rrors, which tells me my last sentence in the previous = paragraph seems true. Q. "Also, expressing corporate zealotry is very unappealing, and only = entails getting nothing but biased=20 remarks from him." =20 A. Since you cannot site specific examples, your observation is mute. Sure I can, like when you ripped on OPen Office for someone who said = they couldn't afford the ridiculous price MS charges for the office = products. Someone recommended Open Office, and you replied get a REAL = office product that is MORE Secure, and went to express how poor those = "other" products are and MS is better, though you don't explain your = experience with them. I am sure you really had experience using them = too, eh?.=20 I have seen you rip Linux users seeking help here, simply because you = stated it was inferior, though you have no experience with it (I use = Mandrake 10.0, it is very sweet). I prefer XP because it supports more = software, it is user friendly, and I also like it a great deal. I = actually have liked every version of Windows from 95 until now, except = for ME (Crapware). But I also use XP because most software makers know = Windows has most of the market, and will not spend their resources for = others making software for them, so it is a necessity of sorts. If more quality software were written for the really good distros of = Linux, I would switch, because it is cheaper, and I can write to it. = Fortunately, most quality PC makers provide Windows, so the expense is a = non-reason for me. But the expense of Office is a travesty, but I need = it for work, as they use it there. =20 Q. "He will not recommend 3rd party product purchases unless they are = certified by MS". =20 A. And a good doctor will only prescribe medication approved by the = FDA. And a good doctor can ONLY precribe medicine approved by the FDA, you = twirp! Bad example, and an extremely poor attempt at using an analogy! =20 Q. " I think it is very un-MVP like to recommend a registry = cleaner/maintenance program..." =20 A. Why? The only one I recommend is System Mechanic, and it's = featured in the Windows Catalog. Being that nearly every other MVP in here other than you recommends to = others NOT to use registry cleaners, that should be telling in itself. = Just because MS approves it (which could be for marketing purposes, = rather than a real benefit), doesn't make it safe. Most people don't = know what is being cleaned out anyway, and those cleaners can remove = stuff that is non-Windows related, that the person NEEDS on their PC. = Uninstalling things is the best way. =20 --=20 Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User -- Tom Not a Microsoft MVP, and certainly not deserving of it based on Rick = Rogers standards. Be Smart! Protect your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Be Smart, really learn and express your knowledge of Windows, not just = link it! Be nice! |
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message = ... Q. "Do MVPs as a group ever deny..... based on themselves not being = friendly? A. MVPs are individuals with unique abilities and personalities. As = a group, all are friendly. If I answer a question, and it solves an = issue, is that not being friendly? WTF does this part of "denial" have to do with being friendly as part of = getting the award as Rick explained it, that wasn't what I stated your = "denial" was about; nice side step try, President Bush! Q. "I can name quite a few who are not friendly, condescending, and = at time, ungrateful." =20 A. "Alright, name them and provide several specific newsgroup posts = to substantiate your claim". Oh please I don't want to go there and search, but most of you know how = I ripped on you for being unfriendly, mainly by you being accusatory to = not maiking your standards. It was just recently you got away (though = you still do it from time to time) from accusing people of piracy when = they were asking certain questions. Many times you were downright = unfriendly and accusatory, ass in "shoot first, ask questions second". Q. "I have yet to see him (CF) express a reply of gratitude to one = who thanked him. =20 A. Not necessary....have you ever sent a thank-you note to someone = that already sent one? HUH? That doesn't make sense, but do you ever say "you're welcome", you = ingrate? I have never seen it from you yet! Seems redundant and turns a newsgroup thread into a chat session. =20 I didn't say that, why quote it? =20 Q. "He even doesn't acknowledge his own peers that tell him when he = makes these errors". =20 A. Private email does this best and you have no knowledge how I = communicate with peers. Poor cop out Carey, I have seen MVPs call you down, before you were an = MVP, and you got all ****y about it, instead of just admitting fault = when you were wrong. Now that you got the title, you can avoid it. I am = sure you don't enjoy being embarassed in private also, so you avoid it = altogether, by not addressing it in any venue! Even if you addessed it prviately, and you were called on it, you still = make the same rrors, which tells me my last sentence in the previous = paragraph seems true. Q. "Also, expressing corporate zealotry is very unappealing, and only = entails getting nothing but biased=20 remarks from him." =20 A. Since you cannot site specific examples, your observation is mute. Sure I can, like when you ripped on OPen Office for someone who said = they couldn't afford the ridiculous price MS charges for the office = products. Someone recommended Open Office, and you replied get a REAL = office product that is MORE Secure, and went to express how poor those = "other" products are and MS is better, though you don't explain your = experience with them. I am sure you really had experience using them = too, eh?.=20 I have seen you rip Linux users seeking help here, simply because you = stated it was inferior, though you have no experience with it (I use = Mandrake 10.0, it is very sweet). I prefer XP because it supports more = software, it is user friendly, and I also like it a great deal. I = actually have liked every version of Windows from 95 until now, except = for ME (Crapware). But I also use XP because most software makers know = Windows has most of the market, and will not spend their resources for = others making software for them, so it is a necessity of sorts. If more quality software were written for the really good distros of = Linux, I would switch, because it is cheaper, and I can write to it. = Fortunately, most quality PC makers provide Windows, so the expense is a = non-reason for me. But the expense of Office is a travesty, but I need = it for work, as they use it there. =20 Q. "He will not recommend 3rd party product purchases unless they are = certified by MS". =20 A. And a good doctor will only prescribe medication approved by the = FDA. And a good doctor can ONLY precribe medicine approved by the FDA, you = twirp! Bad example, and an extremely poor attempt at using an analogy! =20 Q. " I think it is very un-MVP like to recommend a registry = cleaner/maintenance program..." =20 A. Why? The only one I recommend is System Mechanic, and it's = featured in the Windows Catalog. Being that nearly every other MVP in here other than you recommends to = others NOT to use registry cleaners, that should be telling in itself. = Just because MS approves it (which could be for marketing purposes, = rather than a real benefit), doesn't make it safe. Most people don't = know what is being cleaned out anyway, and those cleaners can remove = stuff that is non-Windows related, that the person NEEDS on their PC. = Uninstalling things is the best way. =20 --=20 Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User -- Tom Not a Microsoft MVP, and certainly not deserving of it based on Rick = Rogers standards. Be Smart! Protect your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Be Smart, really learn and express your knowledge of Windows, not just = link it! Be nice! |
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Tom;
I am snipping all that I am not commenting. It is not necessary to respond to a Thank-you. Even though the Thank-you is necessary to verify the fix and help improve quality, there are those that think even that is a waste of bandwidth. Many MVPs choose not to respond at all or respond in a limited degree to Thank-yous. Many people here are on dial-up and some even pay by the amount of bandwidth used. A response to every thank you would impact those right in their wallet. I am less willing to do something affecting someone else's wallet and this is probably true for many others. You should see our in boxes and IMs from each other when something is not right. There is a great deal of communicating that you do not see and frankly you should not see. It is not sweeping anything under the rug, it is improving the experience for everyone including you. We all have different experiences with hardware and software. The experiences can be first hand or second hand. We all make recommendations based on those experiences. Lastly You clearly have little grasp of the process used to select MVPs, since there are no hard and fast rules, there is much flexibility. Even though you deny it, you name calling reflects a lot on your own personal issues. If you feel the need to call Carey or anyone else names to bolster your position, it is clear you are incapable of supporting it. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "Tom" wrote in message ... "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message ... Q. "I have yet to see him (CF) express a reply of gratitude to one who thanked him. A. Not necessary....have you ever sent a thank-you note to someone that already sent one? HUH? That doesn't make sense, but do you ever say "you're welcome", you ingrate? I have never seen it from you yet! Q. "He even doesn't acknowledge his own peers that tell him when he makes these errors". A. Private email does this best and you have no knowledge how I communicate with peers. Poor cop out Carey, I have seen MVPs call you down, before you were an MVP, and you got all ****y about it, instead of just admitting fault when you were wrong. Now that you got the title, you can avoid it. I am sure you don't enjoy being embarassed in private also, so you avoid it altogether, by not addressing it in any venue! Even if you addessed it prviately, and you were called on it, you still make the same rrors, which tells me my last sentence in the previous paragraph seems true. Q. " I think it is very un-MVP like to recommend a registry cleaner/maintenance program..." A. Why? The only one I recommend is System Mechanic, and it's featured in the Windows Catalog. Being that nearly every other MVP in here other than you recommends to others NOT to use registry cleaners, that should be telling in itself. Just because MS approves it (which could be for marketing purposes, rather than a real benefit), doesn't make it safe. Most people don't know what is being cleaned out anyway, and those cleaners can remove stuff that is non-Windows related, that the person NEEDS on their PC. Uninstalling things is the best way. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User -- Tom Not a Microsoft MVP, and certainly not deserving of it based on Rick Rogers standards. Be Smart! Protect your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Be Smart, really learn and express your knowledge of Windows, not just link it! Be nice! |
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Tom;
I am snipping all that I am not commenting. It is not necessary to respond to a Thank-you. Even though the Thank-you is necessary to verify the fix and help improve quality, there are those that think even that is a waste of bandwidth. Many MVPs choose not to respond at all or respond in a limited degree to Thank-yous. Many people here are on dial-up and some even pay by the amount of bandwidth used. A response to every thank you would impact those right in their wallet. I am less willing to do something affecting someone else's wallet and this is probably true for many others. You should see our in boxes and IMs from each other when something is not right. There is a great deal of communicating that you do not see and frankly you should not see. It is not sweeping anything under the rug, it is improving the experience for everyone including you. We all have different experiences with hardware and software. The experiences can be first hand or second hand. We all make recommendations based on those experiences. Lastly You clearly have little grasp of the process used to select MVPs, since there are no hard and fast rules, there is much flexibility. Even though you deny it, you name calling reflects a lot on your own personal issues. If you feel the need to call Carey or anyone else names to bolster your position, it is clear you are incapable of supporting it. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "Tom" wrote in message ... "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message ... Q. "I have yet to see him (CF) express a reply of gratitude to one who thanked him. A. Not necessary....have you ever sent a thank-you note to someone that already sent one? HUH? That doesn't make sense, but do you ever say "you're welcome", you ingrate? I have never seen it from you yet! Q. "He even doesn't acknowledge his own peers that tell him when he makes these errors". A. Private email does this best and you have no knowledge how I communicate with peers. Poor cop out Carey, I have seen MVPs call you down, before you were an MVP, and you got all ****y about it, instead of just admitting fault when you were wrong. Now that you got the title, you can avoid it. I am sure you don't enjoy being embarassed in private also, so you avoid it altogether, by not addressing it in any venue! Even if you addessed it prviately, and you were called on it, you still make the same rrors, which tells me my last sentence in the previous paragraph seems true. Q. " I think it is very un-MVP like to recommend a registry cleaner/maintenance program..." A. Why? The only one I recommend is System Mechanic, and it's featured in the Windows Catalog. Being that nearly every other MVP in here other than you recommends to others NOT to use registry cleaners, that should be telling in itself. Just because MS approves it (which could be for marketing purposes, rather than a real benefit), doesn't make it safe. Most people don't know what is being cleaned out anyway, and those cleaners can remove stuff that is non-Windows related, that the person NEEDS on their PC. Uninstalling things is the best way. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User -- Tom Not a Microsoft MVP, and certainly not deserving of it based on Rick Rogers standards. Be Smart! Protect your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Be Smart, really learn and express your knowledge of Windows, not just link it! Be nice! |
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