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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all the freeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to
anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! My off-the-cuff history with Usenet... (please add your experiences so that, as always, all benefit from your every action on the Internet). When I joined a Silicon Valley startup, just out of grad school, decades ago, the IT guy eventually implemented this "new" free communication system, called "Usenet" where we could discuss technical things on this thing called the "Internet" using our DEC, Masscomp, SunOS, and eventually Solaris machines (well before Linux took off I think). We installed this freeware thing called "rn" and then later, "tin", and it just worked fine, where we even used our real names, and real email addresses (by then we didn't even need to bang the path through the net to our smtp mail servers). Over time, Mac & Windows PC's arrived (where we were forced to use Samba and CAP just so that they could all read the same files as PCs did) as did graphical newsreaders like Pan or Dialog, where, at some point, we even had this "Internet" at home, via ISDN the phone company, which the company paid for because it was a "business need" to be connected at all times. Moving onward, at some point, AT&T had sbcglobal Usenet server settings, which was the first time our Usenet was divorced from the company servers (in those days, you didn't worry about what you said on the net, even at work as the IT guy, maybe two guys by now, was a rebel like the rest of us were). This weird thing called 'spam' showed up one day, out of the blue, where we actually _responded_ to it telling people to stop it, and even complained to their admin about them sending unwanted advertisements in our email (where we started with 'mail -s "subject" body' but now we had graphical MUAs such as "Eudora"). At some point, we were forced to implement procmail filters (this is before Google existed), and even mailbombs to stop what we began calling "spammers" at some point in time. At some point Usenet became politicized, where Mario Cuomo and AT&T decided to kill it once and for all, one for purely political gain, while the other for cost shaving reasons... and they ended "free Usenet" via your local phone company (at least via mine). At that point, I needed a Usenet server, where Paolo Amoroso instantly came to our rescue, and then, over time (I don't remember the order), Ray Bananna, Alexander Bartolich & Sabine Schultz, and then Roman Racine, Alex de Joode, Steve Crook, Jessie Rehmer, Daniel & Monika Weber & Benjamin Gufler, Neodome Admin, & Steen Jensen, et al. (whom did I miss?) Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! -- Usenet is one of the last free bastions of public polite discussion! |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Arlen Holder wrote:
Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! And big thanks to Lance for inventing Mixmaster and Steve for inventing YAMN and also big thanks to Peter for continuing the development of Bitmessage, as an alternative to Usenet and email. Regards Stefan -- https://keybase.io/stefan_claas |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
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Stefan Claas wrote: Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! And big thanks to Lance for inventing Mixmaster and Steve for inventing YAMN and also big thanks to Peter for continuing the development of Bitmessage, as an alternative to Usenet and email. And thanks to Tom Edison for the light bulb. And Al Gore for the Internet. And Leonardo for the airplane. -- The randomly chosen signature file that would have appeared here is more than 4 lines long. As such, it violates one or more Usenet RFCs. In order to remain in compliance with said RFCs, the actual sig can be found at the following URL: http://user.xmission.com/~gazelle/Sigs/Pedantic |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Stefan Claas wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! And big thanks to Lance for inventing Mixmaster and Steve for inventing YAMN and also big thanks to Peter for continuing the development of Bitmessage, as an alternative to Usenet and email. And last but not least big thanks to the folks from NRL for releasing the Onion Routing stuff, thus allowing us to use Usenet with Tor. :-) Regards Stefan -- https://keybase.io/stefan_claas |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all the freeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article , Stefan Claas wrote: Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! And big thanks to Lance for inventing Mixmaster and Steve for inventing YAMN and also big thanks to Peter for continuing the development of Bitmessage, as an alternative to Usenet and email. And thanks to Tom Edison for the light bulb. And Al Gore for the Internet. I used Usenet before Al Gore 'invented' the Internet, so no thanks from me. :-D Regards Stefan -- https://keybase.io/stefan_claas |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all the freeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Arlen Holder wrote:
My off-the-cuff history with Usenet... (please add your experiences so that, as always, all benefit from your every action on the Internet). [...] One episode I remember was when one kind person fired up PGPfone for the Macintosh in the mid 90s, via hacktick. :-D And before that it was also pretty cool from Julf to run anon.penet.fi Regards Stefan -- https://keybase.io/stefan_claas |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Stefan Claas wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote: My off-the-cuff history with Usenet... (please add your experiences so that, as always, all benefit from your every action on the Internet). [...] One episode I remember was when one kind person fired up PGPfone for the Macintosh in the mid 90s, via hacktick. :-D Typo ... hacktic. Regards Stefan -- https://keybase.io/stefan_claas |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
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Stefan Claas wrote: Kenny McCormack wrote: In article , Stefan Claas wrote: Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! And big thanks to Lance for inventing Mixmaster and Steve for inventing YAMN and also big thanks to Peter for continuing the development of Bitmessage, as an alternative to Usenet and email. And thanks to Tom Edison for the light bulb. And Al Gore for the Internet. I used Usenet before Al Gore 'invented' the Internet, so no thanks from me. :-D And thanks to G.W. Carver for the peanut. And to Henry Ford for the automobile. And Mark Z. for the basic idea of people communicating with each other online. -- The randomly chosen signature file that would have appeared here is more than 4 lines long. As such, it violates one or more Usenet RFCs. In order to remain in compliance with said RFCs, the actual sig can be found at the following URL: http://user.xmission.com/~gazelle/Sigs/GodDelusion |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article , Stefan Claas wrote: Kenny McCormack wrote: In article , Stefan Claas wrote: Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! And big thanks to Lance for inventing Mixmaster and Steve for inventing YAMN and also big thanks to Peter for continuing the development of Bitmessage, as an alternative to Usenet and email. And thanks to Tom Edison for the light bulb. And Al Gore for the Internet. I used Usenet before Al Gore 'invented' the Internet, so no thanks from me. :-D And thanks to G.W. Carver for the peanut. And to Henry Ford for the automobile. And Mark Z. for the basic idea of people communicating with each other online. *Absolutely not* Mark Z.!!! Before Al Gore 'invented' the Internet we had such fine (global) services like CompuServe etc. Regards Stefan -- https://keybase.io/stefan_claas |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all the freewa world!
Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! And big thanks to Lance for inventing Mixmaster and Steve for inventing YAMN and also big thanks to Peter for continuing the development of Bitmessage, as an alternative to Usenet and email. And thanks for the democratic party to show everyone what evil genuine is. |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
On 5/25/20 1:15 PM, this is what Arlen Holder wrote:
Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! My off-the-cuff history with Usenet... (please add your experiences so that, as always, all benefit from your every action on the Internet). I think my communication history started with running a BBS in my house. I belonged to a Commodore 64 club and was running some packaged BBS software with 2 Commodore's hard drives and a 14.4k Modem. It was a lot of fun and provided that conversation between people. Granted most liked to trade files/programs, but there were a fair # of messages etc. After a while being a self taught programmer I learned the 8086 machine code, and converted the basic BBS software to my own version of a BBS in machine code. Took me a while to get that Punter protocol working. (written by Steve Punter I think in Canada). It was only possible to write after I got a Commodore 128 computer and a 8086 compiler for it. That sure hooked me into writing code and tinkering in computers. Later one of the guys in the club who worked for the county school system invited us over to his Internet lab to see this crazy new Netscape and internet. "Hey you could talk to people in Australia", and "files could be anywhere in the world, you didn't know where". It was a far cry from people calling my BBS that had to be within a local phone call to people and files all over the world at my reach. I just never thought it would go so far as it has today. Al |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all the freeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Big Al wrote:
On 5/25/20 1:15 PM, this is what Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! My off-the-cuff history with Usenet... (please add your experiences so that, as always, all benefit from your every action on the Internet). I think my communication history started with running a BBS in my house.Â* I belonged to a Commodore 64 club and was running some packaged BBS software with 2 Commodore's hard drives and a 14.4k Modem. It was a lot of fun and provided that conversation between people. Granted most liked to trade files/programs, but there were a fair # of messages etc. After a while being a self taught programmer I learned the 8086 machine code, and converted the basic BBS software to my own version of a BBS in machine code.Â*Â* Took me a while to get that Punter protocol working.Â* (written by Steve Punter I think in Canada). It was only possible to write after I got a Commodore 128 computer and a 8086 compiler for it.Â* That sure hooked me into writing code and tinkering in computers. Later one of the guys in the club who worked for the county school system invited us over to his Internet lab to see this crazy new Netscape and internet.Â*Â* "Hey you could talk to people in Australia", and "files could be anywhere in the world, you didn't know where". It was a far cry from people calling my BBS that had to be within a local phone call to people and files all over the world at my reach. I just never thought it would go so far as it has today. Al I think you're misremembering some details. C64 had a 6502. C128 had that + Z80. Original IBM PC was 8086. Admittedly that was a long time ago. |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
Big Al wrote:
On 5/25/20 1:15 PM, this is what Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! My off-the-cuff history with Usenet... (please add your experiences so that, as always, all benefit from your every action on the Internet). I think my communication history started with running a BBS in my house.Â* I belonged to a Commodore 64 club and was running some packaged BBS software with 2 Commodore's hard drives and a 14.4k Modem. It was a lot of fun and provided that conversation between people. Granted most liked to trade files/programs, but there were a fair # of messages etc. After a while being a self taught programmer I learned the 8086 machine code, and converted the basic BBS software to my own version of a BBS in machine code.Â*Â* Took me a while to get that Punter protocol working.Â* (written by Steve Punter I think in Canada). It was only possible to write after I got a Commodore 128 computer and a 8086 compiler for it.Â* That sure hooked me into writing code and tinkering in computers. Later one of the guys in the club who worked for the county school system invited us over to his Internet lab to see this crazy new Netscape and internet.Â*Â* "Hey you could talk to people in Australia", and "files could be anywhere in the world, you didn't know where". It was a far cry from people calling my BBS that had to be within a local phone call to people and files all over the world at my reach. I just never thought it would go so far as it has today. Al I think you're misremembering some details. C64 had a 6502. C128 had that + Z80. Original IBM PC was 8086. Admittedly that was a long time ago. |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all the freeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
In article , Carl
Kaufmann wrote: Original IBM PC was 8086. 8088 Admittedly that was a long time ago. clearly. |
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Happy Memorial Day weekend - with a hearty thanks to all thefreeware Usenet server admins & clients around the world!
On 5/25/20 4:48 PM, this is what Carl Kaufmann wrote:
Big Al wrote: On 5/25/20 1:15 PM, this is what Arlen Holder wrote: Thank you all, for providing what we all love & enjoy, which allows us to anonymously communicate, as best we can, on the Internet, via Usenet! My off-the-cuff history with Usenet... (please add your experiences so that, as always, all benefit from your every action on the Internet). I think my communication history started with running a BBS in my house.Â* I belonged to a Commodore 64 club and was running some packaged BBS software with 2 Commodore's hard drives and a 14.4k Modem. It was a lot of fun and provided that conversation between people. Granted most liked to trade files/programs, but there were a fair # of messages etc. After a while being a self taught programmer I learned the 8086 machine code, and converted the basic BBS software to my own version of a BBS in machine code.Â*Â* Took me a while to get that Punter protocol working.Â* (written by Steve Punter I think in Canada). It was only possible to write after I got a Commodore 128 computer and a 8086 compiler for it.Â* That sure hooked me into writing code and tinkering in computers. Later one of the guys in the club who worked for the county school system invited us over to his Internet lab to see this crazy new Netscape and internet.Â*Â* "Hey you could talk to people in Australia", and "files could be anywhere in the world, you didn't know where". It was a far cry from people calling my BBS that had to be within a local phone call to people and files all over the world at my reach. I just never thought it would go so far as it has today. Al I think you're misremembering some details. C64 had a 6502. C128 had that + Z80. Original IBM PC was 8086. Admittedly that was a long time ago. Well I never said my memory wasn't fading a bit, but you're so right, 6502, a much smaller list of commands and easier to grasp than 808*. Al |
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