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Old October 21st 17, 03:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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If you are like me and find some operations are easier to do from the
old control panel, and have placed it on the start menu; with 1709 you
will have to re-establish the short cut.

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning. There is different icon ;-)

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Old October 21st 17, 03:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
If you are like me and find some operations are easier to do from the
old control panel, and have placed it on the start menu; with 1709 you
will have to re-establish the short cut.

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning. There is different icon ;-)


Does "control.exe" still work ?

At one time, you could run that, then go to the Task Bar
and select "Pin To TaskBar" for it and it would be
there the next time you boot.

That's how I've run my Insider for a while.

Paul
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Old October 21st 17, 03:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Keith Nuttle wrote:

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning.


No problems in 1709 with the pinned control panel shortcut I created
after 1703 removed it from the Win-X menu.
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Old October 21st 17, 10:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Drew[_8_]
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On 10/21/2017 7:25 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning.


No problems in 1709 with the pinned control panel shortcut I created
after 1703 removed it from the Win-X menu.


I also had pinned a shortcut to start menu.. works well with 1709. I

have used this for as long as win 10 has been around
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Old October 22nd 17, 07:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Martin Edwards
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On 10/21/2017 10:59 PM, Drew wrote:
On 10/21/2017 7:25 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning.


No problems in 1709 with the pinned control panel shortcut I created
after 1703 removed it from the Win-X menu.


I also had pinned a shortcut to start menu.. works well with 1709. I

have used this for as long as win 10 has been around


Where do you type control.exe?


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painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman
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Old October 22nd 17, 03:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Martin Edwards wrote:
On 10/21/2017 10:59 PM, Drew wrote:
On 10/21/2017 7:25 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning.

No problems in 1709 with the pinned control panel shortcut I created
after 1703 removed it from the Win-X menu.


I also had pinned a shortcut to start menu.. works well with 1709. I

have used this for as long as win 10 has been around


Where do you type control.exe?


What did Cortana tell you ? :-)

Some things executed via the Cortana search hole,
cause a Command Prompt (shell) to launch, and the
Command Prompt closes in a split second, so the user
cannot view the output. For example, if I type

whoami

into the Cortana search hole, and run it as the
top-most returned entry, I would not expect the
Command Prompt window to stick around long enough to
read it.

However, things with "GUI side effects", can be
successfully launched from Cortana search hole.
If I do

winver

that one opens a GUI box with the details. That
one is OK to use from Cortana.

The control.exe opens the Control Panel dialog,
amongst other things. (I think "control" also
accepts command line parameters.) In any case,
it should open a Control Panel window. And at
the same time, put an icon in the Task Bar.
And once it does, you can right-click and
select "Pin To Taskbar" or whatever.

Typing in Cortana search hole, means all your
commands are recorded, "for telemetry purposes".
If you don't like this, type

cmd.exe

in the Cortana search hole, and launch a Command Prompt
window, and then run your (private) commands from there.

If you mis-type an entry in the Cortana search hole,
your top-most returned result is likely to be a
Bing search. So typing errors (then hitting return
in a rush) are recorded on Bing, as well as on
Vortex (via telemetry). AFAIK, Command Prompt
activity is not logged... but what do I know ?
Not much. Windows 10 is not a good platform, to
be using the word "privacy" in a raised voice.
And I refuse to have to "take a course" to
understand how my privacy is being eroded by it.
I don't want to have to open up old copies of
Mad Magazine and study the Spy versus Spy cartoons,
to understand how to run *my* ****ing computer.

On previous OSes, you'd use the Run box, which
wasn't recorded or telemetered. Try typing
"control" in the run box of WinXP, and watch
what happens.

Paul
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Old October 22nd 17, 08:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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On 10/22/2017 10:59 AM, Paul wrote:
is-type an entry in the Cortana search hole,
your top-most returned result is likely to be a
Bing search. So typing errors (then hitting return
in a rush) are recorded on Bing, as well as on
Vortex (via telemetry). AFAIK, Command Prompt
activity is not logged... but what do I know ?
Not much. Windows 10 is not a good platform, to
be using the word "privacy" in a raised voice.
And I refuse to have to "take a course" to
understand how my privacy is being eroded by it.
I don't want to have to open up old copies of

The easiest way to find Control.exe is to open File Explorer, and type
Control.exe in the search window.

The second easiest way in File Explorer is to go to C:\windows\System32,
sort the files, and scroll down to Control.exe, right click to create a
short cut and from the short cut, right click and place on start menu.

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Old October 22nd 17, 10:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 10/22/2017 10:59 AM, Paul wrote:
is-type an entry in the Cortana search hole,
your top-most returned result is likely to be a
Bing search. So typing errors (then hitting return
in a rush) are recorded on Bing, as well as on
Vortex (via telemetry). AFAIK, Command Prompt
activity is not logged... but what do I know ?
Not much. Windows 10 is not a good platform, to
be using the word "privacy" in a raised voice.
And I refuse to have to "take a course" to
understand how my privacy is being eroded by it.
I don't want to have to open up old copies of

The easiest way to find Control.exe is to open File Explorer, and type
Control.exe in the search window.

The second easiest way in File Explorer is to go to C:\windows\System32,
sort the files, and scroll down to Control.exe, right click to create a
short cut and from the short cut, right click and place on start menu.


You could always make a shortcut for it, on your desktop.

Paul
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Old October 23rd 17, 10:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Lucifer Morningstar[_2_]
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 07:34:06 +0100, Martin Edwards
wrote:

On 10/21/2017 10:59 PM, Drew wrote:
On 10/21/2017 7:25 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning.

No problems in 1709 with the pinned control panel shortcut I created
after 1703 removed it from the Win-X menu.


I also had pinned a shortcut to start menu.. works well with 1709. I

have used this for as long as win 10 has been around


Where do you type control.exe?


I want to know why you think this is the 21st month.
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Old October 23rd 17, 12:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Johnson[_2_]
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:14:01 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

If you are like me and find some operations are easier to do from the
old control panel, and have placed it on the start menu; with 1709 you
will have to re-establish the short cut.

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning. There is different icon ;-)


Just your system. No problem with mine.
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Old October 23rd 17, 12:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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On 10/23/2017 5:46 AM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
I want to know why you think this is the 21st month.

Because the newsgroup and Thunderbird use the American type of date,
Month/Day/year.

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Old October 23rd 17, 01:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Peter Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:14:01 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

If you are like me and find some operations are easier to do from the
old control panel, and have placed it on the start menu; with 1709 you
will have to re-establish the short cut.

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning. There is different icon ;-)


Just your system. No problem with mine.


When you do "winver", what does it say ?

Winver will give the patch level, so you can agree
that you are using the "same exact thing".

Paul
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Old October 23rd 17, 01:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaghadka
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:14:01 -0400, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Keith
Nuttle wrote:

If you are like me and find some operations are easier to do from the
old control panel, and have placed it on the start menu; with 1709 you
will have to re-establish the short cut.

After the installation of 1709 the short cut under the previous version
was no longer functioning. There is different icon ;-)


I use the local user account shortcut in "Windows System" (waay on the
bottom of your start menu; or you can find the actual shortcut in
C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start
Menu\Programs\Windows System).

This particular shortcut has the added benefit of a jump list of recently
used applets when you right click on it when you pin it somewhere. For
added convenience, I right click and choose the properties of the
shortcut in explorer and set the hotkey to Ctrl+Shift+P. This resulted in
a new shortcut being created on upgrade, however, which may be what
happened to OP. My hotkeyed shortcut was renamed to Control Panel (1).

But the right click jump list is how I get to most features. You can pin
applets to that menu. You can set a hotkey for the shortcut. Works great.

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spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten
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Old October 23rd 17, 09:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Monty
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:50:19 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 10/23/2017 5:46 AM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
I want to know why you think this is the 21st month.

Because the newsgroup and Thunderbird use the American type of date,
Month/Day/year.


I would say it depends on the date format chosen by a user.

Date and time formats can be changed at Control Panel / Region.

If you have reason to sort on "Date" I would recommend setting Short
date to yyyy-MM-dd
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Old October 24th 17, 01:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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On 22/10/2017 07:34, Martin Edwards wrote:

Where do you type control.exe?



Oh just type anywhere. Use Notepad (or download a new Text Editor
called VS code) to see if it writes/types well. If not use that
wonderful NEW tool called Google and SEARCH your answers. We have many
nutters here and it is not possible to help them all. The answer is in
the block letters for Cryptic crossword doers.



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