O.T. eBay

Mark Twain wrote:
This is my "about:config"

http://i63.tinypic.com/eopye.jpg

Since I have google open it should show it
but only shows about config? How do I proceed?

Could you please give me a link for FF 57?
Maybe that will solve allot of this.

Thanks,
Robert




For the record, you're supposed to type this in the Firefox URL bar.

about:config

Then the Config Editor should show up inside the Firefox window.

In my picture here, you can see I've typed "about:config"
in the URL bar. Then, used the filter box just below that
when it appears, and entered "browser.link" to select
only the relevant entries in the Configuration Editor.

https://s1.postimg.org/7khgjnbpnj/firefox57.gif

Part of the problem is, Firefox is so ugly now, you
can't tell what you're looking at. It's a wallpaper of
words with no usable decorations.

Paul

Mark Twain wrote:
eBay works again and I didn't do anything
but folders still gray.


Robert

You'll notice in my picture, my newly added folders
in the Bookmarks sidebar were gray too.

I'm sure there's some way to customize that, as things like
that Sidebar are stored (somewhere) as HTML or the
like. Knowing Mozilla, it could be "json" or "jsonlz4".
Just to name a few. The only thing it won't be saved in
is Java.

Paul

In message , Mark
Twain writes:
This is my "about:config"

http://i63.tinypic.com/eopye.jpg

Since I have google open it should show it
but only shows about config? How do I proceed?

Could you please give me a link for FF 57?
Maybe that will solve allot of this.

Thanks,
Robert

**IN FIREFOX**, clicking Help | About will give you a Check for Updates
box. That either does or soon will lead you to 57.

I'd strongly recommend taking the firefox newsgroup
(mozilla.support.firefox); you'll get a lot more support for Firefox
(surprisingly!) there. You have to get it from the mozilla news server -
it isn't part of usenet - but that isn't hard to set up.

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being asked if he was tired of being described as impeachable), on Desert
Island Discs, 2012-1-29.

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

I'd strongly recommend taking the firefox newsgroup
(mozilla.support.firefox); you'll get a lot more support for Firefox
(surprisingly!) there. You have to get it from the mozilla news server -
it isn't part of usenet - but that isn't hard to set up.

The OP comes in via Google Groups (web browser), and with
no Win7 group in GG, is using the WinXP group instead.

He currently doesn't have a news reader like Thunderbird set up.

Based on your instructions, he would create a new server
entry in the Thunderbird news part of the tool, and that
would give access to the Mozilla Firefox groups.

This is a sort-of how to, from the moderator there.
Unfortunately, this doesn't show pictures of all the curve
balls a new TB install will throw at you. This one assumes
TB is now "tame".

http://ilias.ca/moznewsgroups-tb

And you can get a copy of Thunderbird, here.

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/

I remember the first time I tried to use Thunderbird,
it was pretty confusing, especially when it tries to
get you to set up email accounts, instead of the
USENET news you're really trying to set up. I've even
had recent versions, do a little "freezing" on me.
The older versions are less likely to do any
little snooze-fests.

And you don't put a real email address in there. For
example "Mark @ Twain.invalid" would be sufficient. Nobody
will try emailing the "invalid" domain. The "invalid"
even has its own Wikipedia article, if you're unsure
what is special about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.invalid

Paul

I did try setting up Thunderbird once
but found it confusing, just as you
stated.


I didn't know where top type about:config,
.. I've never done this.

http://i65.tinypic.com/rwrt5i.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2aad3s2.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/15hzsq0.jpg

As I said, eBay seems 'normal now although
I didn't do anything but could I please have
a clean download of FF 57? It may or may not
clear the folders and turn them yellow but if
nothing else, to stay current.

Thanks,
Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I did try setting up Thunderbird once
but found it confusing, just as you
stated.


I didn't know where top type about:config,
. I've never done this.

http://i65.tinypic.com/rwrt5i.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2aad3s2.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/15hzsq0.jpg

As I said, eBay seems 'normal now although
I didn't do anything but could I please have
a clean download of FF 57? It may or may not
clear the folders and turn them yellow but if
nothing else, to stay current.

Thanks,
Robert

Good, nothing is out of place there.
Same values as the defaults on mine.

*******

The beta leads up to the full release. At
any one time, the staff are working on multiple
releases. The ESR versions are yet another stream,
used by business IT departments.

56.0b12/ Sept.14
56.0/ Sept.27

57.0b3/ Sept.26
57.0b4/ Sept.29
57.0b5/ Oct.03
57.0 (Not yet)

The beta releases are on a different stream
then the general release ones. A 56.0 user
gets updated to 57.0 at some point. I would say
at the current rate, 57.0 might be three or four
weeks away.

A 56.0b12 might get updated to 57.0b3.
In fact, mine was updating from one beta release
to the next, sequentially, so it wasn't even
leaping to the final one. My install happened
to start with a beta one, and gets updating to new
beta ones. I could stop that by installing 56.0
I suppose.

Paul

Understood, but are you
saying its not automatic?

If not,I usually go to
ProgramsMozillaUpdates

So if I'm running 56.0 (32 bit)
that's presently current but
it doesn't explain why my
folders went gray or yours
in the example you gave.

Yet they all function.

Thoughts,..
Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
Understood, but are you
saying its not automatic?

If not,I usually go to
ProgramsMozillaUpdates

So if I'm running 56.0 (32 bit)
that's presently current but
it doesn't explain why my
folders went gray or yours
in the example you gave.

Yet they all function.

Thoughts,..
Robert

I've been trying to figure out where the "color" of a
folder in bookmarks would be stored... Items receive
a randomly named "GUID" and in this case, the 'V2TeenhcIhhF'
string is the string I've been looking for in the files.

I have been inserting testing folders in the Bookmarks, such
as this "Test Folder Gray" one. I'm not picking the color, and
like you, it was gray in color in the sidebar.

places.sqlite (dumped to text)

INSERT INTO moz_bookmarks VALUES(41,2,NULL,2,17,'Test Folder Gray',
NULL,NULL,1506990081481000,1506990093592000,'V2Tee nhcIhhF',1,2);

bookmarks...jsonlz4 (use my C code "unmoz.exe" for this)

"index": 16,
"type": "text/x-moz-place",
"uri": "http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk"
}, {
"guid": "V2TeenhcIhhF", ---- There is no color field
"title": "Test Folder Gray", ---- for this entry...
"index": 17,
"dateAdded": 1506990081481000,
"lastModified": 1506990093592000,
"id": 41,
"typeCode": 2, ---- The new Firefox uses a typecode
"type": "text/x-moz-place-container" but it is likely a red herring.
}, {
"guid": "Zb572whbkzjg",
"title": "How to Uninstall or Reinstall Bash Shell",
"index": 18,
"iconuri": "http://www.howtogeek.com/public/favicon.ico", --- bookmark icon

Now if I start a copy of Firefox 54b13, insert a new
folder on it, I get this for the json stuff.

{
"guid": "dIxwbbn295Rj",
"title": "Test Folder Not", --- Yellow folder appears but there is
"index": 17, --- no color specification here...
"dateAdded": 1507167565433000,
"lastModified": 1507167605576000,
"id": 41,
"type": "text/x-moz-place-container"
}

The typeCode is the only difference, and it doesn't appear
very nefarious as far as I can tell. These could be enumerated
(counting numbers), so a value of 2 corresponds to _FOLDER.
Nothing sneaky about that.

https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-beta...lacesUtils.jsm

[ PlacesUtils.bookmarks.TYPE_BOOKMARK, --- 1 ?
PlacesUtils.bookmarks.TYPE_FOLDER, --- 2 ?
PlacesUtils.bookmarks.TYPE_SEPARATOR ].includes(v)), --- 3 ?

*******

And someone else has noticed.

It's not just you.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1177255

6 days ago

"Now I realize that the folders are only gray in the
bookmarks sidebar. When I look at my bookmarks in the
dropdown from the menu bar they are still yellow.

So it's not even consistent."

If the representation is not consistent, that sounds like a
newly introduced bug. It won't get fixed though, if only
reported in the Support group. Only things reported in
Bugzilla get fixed.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/...zilla/Bugzilla

Paul

I noticed the drop downs also are 'normal'
but could it be like the other person
said, 'it was because he was using a beta
version'?

Maybe I should go back to 55.0.03 as well?
I just don't know how?

Thoughts?
Robert

I take it back my drop downs are
also gray.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I take it back my drop downs are
also gray.

Robert

At the current time, I don't think this
is user configurable. It may take an examination
of source code, to figure out what they've done.

The files in the profile, don't seem to be markedly
different. There was only one entry I could find
different, which was declaring a folder to be a
folder. If the folder type had been materially
different, then I might have guessed that was
responsible. But the differences are small enough,
I don't think it's a file in your user profile
that controls it.

Paul

So it's Mozilla that's actually
doing this? and maybe responsible
for eBay messing up and returning
back to normal?

Should I leave the 780 as is until
they straighten this out?

Thanks,
Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
So it's Mozilla that's actually
doing this? and maybe responsible
for eBay messing up and returning
back to normal?

Should I leave the 780 as is until
they straighten this out?

Thanks,
Robert


As long as you've set the Preferences
so the Update cannot come in, then that gives
you some control over things.

In other words, if you have a machine where
"everything works", turn off the updates so
they cannot screw it up.

For the machine with the ugly folders, you'll just
have to wait for word they've fixed it.

You can install an older version over top of the
current version, but that can be trickier than it
looks. The installation might turn on updates
again, so you'd want to disconnect the network
while doing the install. Then verify the Preference
for updates is turned off.

Paul

I have the updates turned off,
so I'll have to wait.

However, when I check for updates
how am I to know if its going
to screw things up beforehand?

Thanks
Robert

In message , Mark
Twain writes:
I have the updates turned off,
so I'll have to wait.

However, when I check for updates
how am I to know if its going
to screw things up beforehand?

Sadly, you're not. This applies to most software. It's usually said with
regards to drivers, but one policy is: unless you know an "up"date will
either fix a problem you're experiencing or add a feature you want, then
don't "up"date.

Thanks
Robert
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(Incidentally, it was made in Spain so shouldn't it be a "paella western"?) -
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