Recommended EMail Application

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:24:14 +0000, mechanic wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 16:28:36 -0400, Nil wrote:

Nor does mine, for the same reason. It's a Firefox setting and
whether or not to re-open tabs is your choice.

No its a Tab Mix Plus setting.

It may indeed be a Tab Mix Plus setting, but it's also a standard Firefox
setting. The capability has been there (in Firefox) for as long as I can
remember.

BillW50 wrote:
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Blue typed:
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent folder.
Not sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new folders under
the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be kept
(relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with freezing. I
created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I don't have a junk
folder as I've configured it to send junk into the trash directly. I
also don't use TB for UseNet. I use Seamonkey for that.

Nothing in my Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft and it doesn't help. Although
I can tell you the problem isn't there with v1.5.0.8. And it is
definitely there in v12, v14, and v24. So somewhere before v12 the
problem first started is my guess.


I've used TB since when it was called Netscape Mail and I have never had
the problems you're having.

--
Blue

On 18 Mar 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

It may indeed be a Tab Mix Plus setting, but it's also a standard
Firefox setting. The capability has been there (in Firefox) for as
long as I can remember.

Right: Options | General | Startup | When Firefox starts, show my
windows and tabs from last time.

I don't have Tab Mix Plus.

In ,
Blue typed:
BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Blue typed:
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent
folder. Not sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new
folders under the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be
kept (relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with freezing. I
created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I don't have a
junk folder as I've configured it to send junk into the trash
directly. I also don't use TB for UseNet. I use Seamonkey for that.

Nothing in my Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft and it doesn't help.
Although I can tell you the problem isn't there with v1.5.0.8. And
it is definitely there in v12, v14, and v24. So somewhere before v12
the problem first started is my guess.

I've used TB since when it was called Netscape Mail and I have never
had the problems you're having.

Of course you don't! Yet I can find the problem on your
computer in 30 seconds. :-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:56:03 -0400, Nil wrote:

On 18 Mar 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

It may indeed be a Tab Mix Plus setting, but it's also a standard
Firefox setting. The capability has been there (in Firefox) for as
long as I can remember.

Right: Options | General | Startup | When Firefox starts, show my
windows and tabs from last time.

I don't have Tab Mix Plus.

It's a must for me.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:56:13 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Blue typed:
BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Blue typed:
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent
folder. Not sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new
folders under the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be
kept (relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with freezing. I
created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I don't have a
junk folder as I've configured it to send junk into the trash
directly. I also don't use TB for UseNet. I use Seamonkey for that.

Nothing in my Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft and it doesn't help.
Although I can tell you the problem isn't there with v1.5.0.8. And
it is definitely there in v12, v14, and v24. So somewhere before v12
the problem first started is my guess.

I've used TB since when it was called Netscape Mail and I have never
had the problems you're having.

Of course you don't! Yet I can find the problem on your
computer in 30 seconds. :-)

With all of the problems you seem to continually have, I don't think there
are many people here who would let you get within a mile of their computer.

In ,
Char Jackson typed:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:56:13 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Blue typed:
BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Blue typed:
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent
folder. Not sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new
folders under the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be
kept (relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with
freezing. I created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I
don't have a junk folder as I've configured it to send junk into
the trash directly. I also don't use TB for UseNet. I use
Seamonkey for that.

Nothing in my Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft and it doesn't help.
Although I can tell you the problem isn't there with v1.5.0.8. And
it is definitely there in v12, v14, and v24. So somewhere before
v12 the problem first started is my guess.

I've used TB since when it was called Netscape Mail and I have never
had the problems you're having.

Of course you don't! Yet I can find the problem on your
computer in 30 seconds. :-)

With all of the problems you seem to continually have, I don't think
there are many people here who would let you get within a mile of
their computer.

Problems? Hardly, I have machines from '81 that still work like new.
Although there are great beta testers and then there are blind
beta testers. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

On 18 Mar 2014, mechanic wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:56:03 -0400, Nil wrote:
I don't have Tab Mix Plus.

It's a must for me.

I'll check it out. I've been using "Duplicate This Tab" for years to
add more tab manipulation features, and I consider that to be a Must.
Unfortunately it's no longer being developed, though it still works
just fine.

I see someone calling "Tab Mix Plus" "bloatware", so I'll consider that
when I compare it to "Duplicate This Tab."

Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:56:13 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Blue typed:
BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Blue typed:
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent
folder. Not sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new
folders under the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be
kept (relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with freezing. I
created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I don't have a
junk folder as I've configured it to send junk into the trash
directly. I also don't use TB for UseNet. I use Seamonkey for that.

Nothing in my Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft and it doesn't help.
Although I can tell you the problem isn't there with v1.5.0.8. And
it is definitely there in v12, v14, and v24. So somewhere before v12
the problem first started is my guess.

I've used TB since when it was called Netscape Mail and I have never
had the problems you're having.

Of course you don't! Yet I can find the problem on your
computer in 30 seconds. :-)

With all of the problems you seem to continually have, I don't think there
are many people here who would let you get within a mile of their computer.



I certainly wouldn't.

--
Blue

BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Blue typed:
BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Blue typed:
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent
folder. Not sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new
folders under the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be
kept (relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with freezing. I
created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I don't have a
junk folder as I've configured it to send junk into the trash
directly. I also don't use TB for UseNet. I use Seamonkey for that.

Nothing in my Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft and it doesn't help.
Although I can tell you the problem isn't there with v1.5.0.8. And
it is definitely there in v12, v14, and v24. So somewhere before v12
the problem first started is my guess.

I've used TB since when it was called Netscape Mail and I have never
had the problems you're having.

Of course you don't!

Patronizing much?

Yet I can find the problem on your
computer in 30 seconds. :-)


I wouldn't let you touch my computer.

--
Blue

BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Char Jackson typed:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:56:13 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Blue typed:
BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Blue typed:
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent
folder. Not sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new
folders under the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be
kept (relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with
freezing. I created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I
don't have a junk folder as I've configured it to send junk into
the trash directly. I also don't use TB for UseNet. I use
Seamonkey for that.

Nothing in my Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft and it doesn't help.
Although I can tell you the problem isn't there with v1.5.0.8. And
it is definitely there in v12, v14, and v24. So somewhere before
v12 the problem first started is my guess.

I've used TB since when it was called Netscape Mail and I have never
had the problems you're having.

Of course you don't! Yet I can find the problem on your
computer in 30 seconds. :-)

With all of the problems you seem to continually have, I don't think
there are many people here who would let you get within a mile of
their computer.

Problems? Hardly, I have machines from '81 that still work like new.
Although there are great beta testers and then there are blind
beta testers. ;-)


And then there's you.

--
Blue

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:03:57 +0000, mechanic wrote:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:56:03 -0400, Nil wrote:

On 18 Mar 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

It may indeed be a Tab Mix Plus setting, but it's also a standard
Firefox setting. The capability has been there (in Firefox) for as
long as I can remember.

Right: Options | General | Startup | When Firefox starts, show my
windows and tabs from last time.

I don't have Tab Mix Plus.

It's a must for me.

What do you like about it? Which of its features are the most valuable to
you?

I remember looking at Tab Mix Plus quite some time ago and not finding
anything that I thought would be valuable to me, but I may have overlooked
something.

On 19/02/2014 16:51, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 16/02/2014 1:28 PM, OldGuy wrote:
Win 7 Pro all updates
TB latest version

PC = Intel Quad 3GHz 8GRAM, 500MB free C:

It is because I have so many eMails with 150K attachements that are
downloading.

TB programmers need to release more code time to the system (allowing TB
to multitask) during such downloads. Maybe TB only uses a few threads??

I have a similar problem with Tbird. It will sometimes just freeze for
about 10 seconds while I'm in the middle of writing a message, like this
one. I have desktop gadgets that show me disk and processor activity,
and initially I thought maybe it's accessing the disk for some reason,
but it's doesn't seem to be disk activity at all. Instead, I see
processor activity just spike on one core for the duration of time that
the freeze occurs. I got six-cores, so why doesn't Tbird know how to
distribute itself better over the multiple cores? I also notice the
Tbird's memory utilization just keeps growing and growing the longer you
keep it open. I had 8 GB's previously, and I saw once it had used up 6
of the 8GB, just by itself. I have now upgraded to 16GB, but the memory
utilization is still heavy. It didn't matter if I ran the thing on an
SSD or a regular HDD, the freezes still happened. Running newsgroups has
made the Tbird profile absolutely directory massive, with lots (100's of
thousands) of big and little files. I think Tbird is more unstable when
running newsgroups than when not, the developers seem to have little to
no interest in fixing newsgroup support in Tbird.

Win 7 Ult x86
PC = AMD Phenom II X6 1100T, 16GB DDR3. Lot's of space on the drive
that's its on.

Yousuf Khan

That is a very similar problem that I have with TB.

Just now I was reading posts in 1 NG, then switched or selected another
NG, and it was at that point TB went into 'Not Responding' mode for
about a minute or so (a guess).
I then saw in Task Mangler that TB was using almost 1Gb of memory before
dropping down to around 200Kb.

Again, I have 16Gb of memory with and i5 cpu running at 3.1Ghz. TB is
residing on my SSD, so it can't be anything to do with my machine's
hardware, it must be just TB.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:29:41 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

It's a must for me.

What do you like about it? Which of its features are the most
valuable to you?

Recovery after a restart - choice of earlier saved configs if the
last one is faulty;
List of (user defined number) previously visited sites easy to pull
up;
Tremendous configuration possibilities (tweaking) of tab settings
and control over behaviour.

A lot of this can be set up in Firefox itself, but this little
add-on makes it so much more convenient.

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:12:36 +0000, mechanic wrote:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:29:41 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

It's a must for me.

What do you like about it? Which of its features are the most
valuable to you?

Recovery after a restart - choice of earlier saved configs if the
last one is faulty;
List of (user defined number) previously visited sites easy to pull
up;
Tremendous configuration possibilities (tweaking) of tab settings
and control over behaviour.

A lot of this can be set up in Firefox itself, but this little
add-on makes it so much more convenient.

Thanks for that info. I think I'll stick with Session Manager.