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  #106  
Old February 21st 14, 10:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/21/2014, generic name posted:
On 2014-02-21, Gene E Bloch wrote:
On 2/21/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:


On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they just
made Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to its
function keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was
released; it was a very buggy release and people left it in
droves.

Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings
available to make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's
operations.



Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act
exactly like WordPerfect."


And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.


I know why I moved to Word.

Back in DOS days I used WordPerfect.

At work I was required to use Word 4.0 (I believe that was the
version).

Almost the same day I started using Word at work, I bought it for
myself to use at home, and never looked back.

And you didn't notice that m$ got people to use word & office suite
by cutting the price of the office suite by about 1/3 as in that with
the cost of word, you also get excel & presentation. At least that's
why I got word because the company switched from WP because
of the savings in relation to buying a word processor, spreadsheet
& presentation program separately.


Always felt that m$ did a sucker play. I didn't need a spreadsheet
or presentation program; just want a simple wordprocessor for
term papers/reports; & not trying to publish a book with its
accompaning excess baggage. Because of the publishing capabilities,
professors are now requiring footnotes, etc, when needed & other info
as if one is publishing an important tech book.


They sold me a good and usable product. Since I'm reasonably sane, that
was good enough for me.

Actually, your jejune post doesn't really deserve an answer, but what
the heck :-)

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Old February 21st 14, 11:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:42:21 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/21/2014, Char Jackson posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:06:24 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:


On 2/21/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they just
made Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to its
function keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was
released; it was a very buggy release and people left it in
droves.

Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings
available to make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's
operations.


Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act
exactly like WordPerfect."

And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.

I know why I moved to Word.

Back in DOS days I used WordPerfect.

At work I was required to use Word 4.0 (I believe that was the
version).

Almost the same day I started using Word at work, I bought it for
myself to use at home, and never looked back.


I thought the Windows version jumped from 2.0 to 6.0? Unless you're
referring to the DOS version? There was a Word 4 for DOS but I never
used it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_word


From my post:
"Back in DOS days"


Oops. Some days I read; some days I skim.

  #108  
Old February 21st 14, 11:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/21/2014, Char Jackson posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:42:21 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:


On 2/21/2014, Char Jackson posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:06:24 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:


On 2/21/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:
On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they
just made Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to
its function keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was
released; it was a very buggy release and people left it in
droves.

Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings
available to make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's
operations.


Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act
exactly like WordPerfect."

And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.

I know why I moved to Word.

Back in DOS days I used WordPerfect.

At work I was required to use Word 4.0 (I believe that was the
version).

Almost the same day I started using Word at work, I bought it for
myself to use at home, and never looked back.
I thought the Windows version jumped from 2.0 to 6.0? Unless you're
referring to the DOS version? There was a Word 4 for DOS but I
never used it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_word


From my post:
"Back in DOS days"


Oops. Some days I read; some days I skim.


Me too.

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  #109  
Old February 22nd 14, 12:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:06:24 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/21/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:


On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they just
made Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to its function
keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was
released; it was a very buggy release and people left it in droves.

Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings available
to make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's operations.



Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act
exactly like WordPerfect."


And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.


I know why I moved to Word.

Back in DOS days I used WordPerfect.

At work I was required to use Word 4.0 (I believe that was the
version).

Almost the same day I started using Word at work, I bought it for
myself to use at home, and never looked back.



We are very different in that respect. I did, and still do, think
WordPerfect is much better than Word.

  #110  
Old February 22nd 14, 01:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/21/2014 7:31 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:06:24 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/21/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:


On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they just
made Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to its function
keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was
released; it was a very buggy release and people left it in droves.

Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings available
to make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's operations.



Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act
exactly like WordPerfect."


And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.


I know why I moved to Word.

Back in DOS days I used WordPerfect.

At work I was required to use Word 4.0 (I believe that was the
version).

Almost the same day I started using Word at work, I bought it for
myself to use at home, and never looked back.



We are very different in that respect. I did, and still do, think
WordPerfect is much better than Word.


Apparently he has never tried to resolve a formatting problem in MS
Word. It is quite easy to do using WordPerfect's reveal codes.

Today WordPerfect is equal to MS Word, in most respects. Headers,
Footers, footnote, outline, and most other aspects.

I bought WordPerfect so I would have a high quality word processor, and
found that I am using Quattro Pro as much as I am the WordPerfect. So
far I have never had a need for Presentation, the Power Point equivalent.
  #111  
Old February 22nd 14, 01:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/21/2014, Keith Nuttle posted:
On 2/21/2014 7:31 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:06:24 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/21/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they
just
made Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to its
function
keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was
released; it was a very buggy release and people left it in
droves.

Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings
available
to make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's operations.


Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act
exactly like WordPerfect."

And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.

I know why I moved to Word.

Back in DOS days I used WordPerfect.

At work I was required to use Word 4.0 (I believe that was the
version).

Almost the same day I started using Word at work, I bought it for
myself to use at home, and never looked back.



We are very different in that respect. I did, and still do, think
WordPerfect is much better than Word.


Apparently he has never tried to resolve a formatting problem in MS
Word. It is quite easy to do using WordPerfect's reveal codes.


Apparently he had a lot more success with resolving formatting problems
and printer driver problems in Word, among many other things lost in
the mists of antiquity.

Reveal codes was a poor substitute for usability, IMO. As for printer
control, OMG! I have repressed my memories of the multiple points where
WP required arcane settings to make a printer work.

Today WordPerfect is equal to MS Word, in most respects. Headers,
Footers, footnote, outline, and most other aspects.


Don't know about WP today. I hated WP enough in the 80's that I never
wanted to try it again.

WP did help my vocabulary development a lot, however - mostly swear
words :-)

I bought WordPerfect so I would have a high quality word processor,
and found that I am using Quattro Pro as much as I am the
WordPerfect. So far I have never had a need for Presentation, the
Power Point equivalent.


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  #112  
Old February 22nd 14, 03:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/21/14 10:44 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they just made
Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to its function keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was released;
it was a very buggy release and people left it in droves.


Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings available to
make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's operations.



Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act exactly
like WordPerfect."

And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.


One thing I've always hated about Word is it's impossible to have
anything end at the bottom margin without having a blank following page.


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  #113  
Old February 22nd 14, 03:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/21/2014 8:55 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
Apparently he has never tried to resolve a formatting problem in MS
Word. It is quite easy to do using WordPerfect's reveal codes.


What is difficult with going into Word Options Display and checking
"show all formatting marks"?
  #114  
Old February 22nd 14, 03:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:43:55 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 2/21/2014 7:31 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:06:24 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/21/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they just
made Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to its function
keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was
released; it was a very buggy release and people left it in droves.

Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings available
to make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's operations.


Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act
exactly like WordPerfect."

And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.

I know why I moved to Word.

Back in DOS days I used WordPerfect.

At work I was required to use Word 4.0 (I believe that was the
version).

Almost the same day I started using Word at work, I bought it for
myself to use at home, and never looked back.



We are very different in that respect. I did, and still do, think
WordPerfect is much better than Word.


Apparently he has never tried to resolve a formatting problem in MS
Word. It is quite easy to do using WordPerfect's reveal codes.

Today WordPerfect is equal to MS Word, in most respects. Headers,
Footers, footnote, outline, and most other aspects.




Equal? I think it's better. And it always has been.


I bought WordPerfect so I would have a high quality word processor, and
found that I am using Quattro Pro as much as I am the WordPerfect. So
far I have never had a need for Presentation, the Power Point equivalent.




But I think Excel is much better than Quattro Pro and PowerPoint much
better than Presentations. WordPerfect itself is the only program I
use in the WordPerfect suite.

  #115  
Old February 22nd 14, 10:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/21/2014, Zaidy036 posted:
On 2/21/2014 8:55 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
Apparently he has never tried to resolve a formatting problem in MS
Word. It is quite easy to do using WordPerfect's reveal codes.


What is difficult with going into Word Options Display and checking
"show all formatting marks"?


That's actually pretty easy. But it doesn't end there...

It should suffice to say that for me Word was *far* easier, *far* more
effective, and *far* pleasanter to use.

But since (as expected) fans of WP are true believers, it does not
suffice to say that, so I will now bow out of this subthread, rather
than continuing to address deaf ears.

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  #116  
Old February 22nd 14, 10:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/22/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:43:55 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:


On 2/21/2014 7:31 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:06:24 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/21/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:36:55 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:
On 2/21/14 8:03 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:56:58 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:


This is how Microsoft got people to switch
over to MS Word from WordPerfect in the olden days -- they
just made Word act exactly like WordPerfect, right down to its
function keys.


As far as I'm concerned Word has never acted like WordPerfect.
WordPerfect took a back seat to Word when WordPerfect 6 was
released; it was a very buggy release and people left it in
droves.

Actually, in the older Word versions, there were settings
available to make it mimic at least some of Word Perfect's
operations.


Available? Yes. But available isn't the same as "made Word act
exactly like WordPerfect."

And that wasn't the reason people moved from WordPerfect to Word.

I know why I moved to Word.

Back in DOS days I used WordPerfect.

At work I was required to use Word 4.0 (I believe that was the
version).

Almost the same day I started using Word at work, I bought it for
myself to use at home, and never looked back.


We are very different in that respect. I did, and still do, think
WordPerfect is much better than Word.


Apparently he has never tried to resolve a formatting problem in MS
Word. It is quite easy to do using WordPerfect's reveal codes.

Today WordPerfect is equal to MS Word, in most respects. Headers,
Footers, footnote, outline, and most other aspects.




Equal? I think it's better. And it always has been.



I bought WordPerfect so I would have a high quality word processor,
and found that I am using Quattro Pro as much as I am the
WordPerfect. So far I have never had a need for Presentation, the
Power Point equivalent.




But I think Excel is much better than Quattro Pro and PowerPoint much
better than Presentations. WordPerfect itself is the only program I
use in the WordPerfect suite.


Are you saying that you choose what works best for you?

Radical idea! Great idea...

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  #117  
Old February 22nd 14, 10:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:25:51 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/21/2014, Zaidy036 posted:
On 2/21/2014 8:55 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
Apparently he has never tried to resolve a formatting problem in MS
Word. It is quite easy to do using WordPerfect's reveal codes.


What is difficult with going into Word Options Display and checking
"show all formatting marks"?


That's actually pretty easy. But it doesn't end there...

It should suffice to say that for me Word was *far* easier, *far* more
effective, and *far* pleasanter to use.

But since (as expected) fans of WP are true believers, it does not
suffice to say that, so I will now bow out of this subthread, rather
than continuing to address deaf ears.




What? What? Can't hear you! vbg

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Old February 22nd 14, 10:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/22/2014 4:25 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
But since (as expected) fans of WP are true believers, it does not
suffice to say that, so I will now bow out of this subthread, rather
than continuing to address deaf ears.


You are kidding? There are still people using that dinosaur? What OS are
they running it under, Win 3.1? That is where my WP lives and I say good
riddance.

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  #119  
Old February 22nd 14, 10:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/22/2014, Ken Blake posted:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:25:51 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:


On 2/21/2014, Zaidy036 posted:
On 2/21/2014 8:55 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
Apparently he has never tried to resolve a formatting problem in
MS Word. It is quite easy to do using WordPerfect's reveal codes.
What is difficult with going into Word Options Display and checking
"show all formatting marks"?


That's actually pretty easy. But it doesn't end there...

It should suffice to say that for me Word was *far* easier, *far*
more effective, and *far* pleasanter to use.

But since (as expected) fans of WP are true believers, it does not
suffice to say that, so I will now bow out of this subthread, rather
than continuing to address deaf ears.


What? What? Can't hear you! vbg


For you, a VBG; for me, LOL at your post :-)

I think you're bringing this subthread back to sanity. Wish I could
join you ;-)

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  #120  
Old February 22nd 14, 11:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2/22/2014, BillW50 posted:
On 2/22/2014 4:25 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
But since (as expected) fans of WP are true believers, it does not
suffice to say that, so I will now bow out of this subthread,
rather
than continuing to address deaf ears.


You are kidding? There are still people using that dinosaur? What OS
are they running it under, Win 3.1? That is where my WP lives and I
say good riddance.


WP exists in the world of Windows, and apparently lots of people really
like it (you can see that here).

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