unable to hear audio over HDMI

I just finished transferring a bunch of VHS tapes over the MPEG2. I
used a Roxio module plugged into the USB port on the laptop with the VHS
VCR output plugged into it. I then used the Roxio software in Win 7. I
was able to save each video as MPEG2. I am using an Asus media player
to play the resulting files from a hard drive attached to the player
over the TV. I first tried my preference, HDMI, but, although I can see
video, I am unable to hear sound. The only way I have been able to hear
sound is to use the composite video-audio outputs from the Asus into the
TV. The videos play just fine on any of my computers. I checked the
encoding and they are MPEG2 video with MPEG audio format. What is the
reason I cannot hear audio via HDMI and what is the remedy? Thanks.

JBI wrote:
I just finished transferring a bunch of VHS tapes over the MPEG2. I
used a Roxio module plugged into the USB port on the laptop with the VHS
VCR output plugged into it. I then used the Roxio software in Win 7. I
was able to save each video as MPEG2. I am using an Asus media player
to play the resulting files from a hard drive attached to the player
over the TV. I first tried my preference, HDMI, but, although I can see
video, I am unable to hear sound. The only way I have been able to hear
sound is to use the composite video-audio outputs from the Asus into the
TV. The videos play just fine on any of my computers. I checked the
encoding and they are MPEG2 video with MPEG audio format. What is the
reason I cannot hear audio via HDMI and what is the remedy? Thanks.

What tests have your run on the TV so far ?

You could use one of your computers as a stimulus.

The advantage of the computer, is you have the
audio control panel and you can select a "digital output"
option that would cause audio over HDMI. Then use
even Audacity to drive an audio signal over the
cable to test.

You don't say what your TV is, or whether it's of
an era to have HDMI audio or not. 7.1 LPCM might not
have any licensing implications, and that should work
as a mode if the TV has any HDMI audio capability at
all.

Maybe the Asus player cannot convert MPEG2 audio into
LPCM ?

But I wouldn't bother re-encoding any movies
just yet, until you prove the TV works. Maybe
the TV requires you to use the remote and "select"
the HDMI audio from some menu, instead of the
composite input audio that seems to work right now ?
The TV might be "flexible" and it allows combining
HDMI video with Composite Audio, all under user control.

Paul

On 09/30/2018 02:38 PM, Paul wrote:
JBI wrote:
I just finished transferring a bunch of VHS tapes over the MPEG2.Â* I
used a Roxio module plugged into the USB port on the laptop with the
VHS VCR output plugged into it.Â* I then used the Roxio software in Win
7.Â* I was able to save each video as MPEG2.Â* I am using an Asus media
player to play the resulting files from a hard drive attached to the
player over the TV.Â* I first tried my preference, HDMI, but, although
I can see video, I am unable to hear sound.Â* The only way I have been
able to hear sound is to use the composite video-audio outputs from
the Asus into the TV.Â* The videos play just fine on any of my
computers.Â* I checked the encoding and they are MPEG2 video with MPEG
audio format.Â* What is the reason I cannot hear audio via HDMI and
what is the remedy?Â* Thanks.

What tests have your run on the TV so far ?

The TV is a Sony LCD KDL-46EX400. It has four HDMI inputs, a USB port,
two composite and two video. Since I have all of the videos on a
portable hard drive, the first thing I did was plug the hard drive
directly into the TV but it isn't recognized.


You could use one of your computers as a stimulus.

The advantage of the computer, is you have the
audio control panel and you can select a "digital output"
option that would cause audio over HDMI. Then use
even Audacity to drive an audio signal over the
cable to test.

None of my laptops have HDMI output, unless you're talking about another
method.


You don't say what your TV is, or whether it's of
an era to have HDMI audio or not. 7.1 LPCM might not
have any licensing implications, and that should work
as a mode if the TV has any HDMI audio capability at
all.

Well, under the HDMI4 settings, where I have the Asus connected
currently, I am presented with the following settings on the Sony:
dynamic, standard, clear voice, or custom. Under custom, I can control
things like balance, etc, or have the sound coming from the speakers or
audio system. I'm not sure what capabilities it has, but it has always
forwarded both sound and picture from HDMI from Blu Ray disc and DVD
players I have connected.


Maybe the Asus player cannot convert MPEG2 audio into
LPCM ?


The Asus audio settings include LPCM Multi, LPCM Dual, or Raw for HDMI
output. I tried all three settings but still no audio over HDMI.

But I wouldn't bother re-encoding any movies
just yet, until you prove the TV works. Maybe
the TV requires you to use the remote and "select"
the HDMI audio from some menu, instead of the
composite input audio that seems to work right now ?
The TV might be "flexible" and it allows combining
HDMI video with Composite Audio, all under user control.

That's what I was hoping (use composite audio with HDMI picture) but
nothing I've found so far in the menu seems to allow it.


Â*Â* Paul

On 09/30/2018 03:40 PM, JBI wrote:
On 09/30/2018 02:38 PM, Paul wrote:
JBI wrote:
I just finished transferring a bunch of VHS tapes over the MPEG2.Â* I
used a Roxio module plugged into the USB port on the laptop with the
VHS VCR output plugged into it.Â* I then used the Roxio software in
Win 7.Â* I was able to save each video as MPEG2.Â* I am using an Asus
media player to play the resulting files from a hard drive attached
to the player over the TV.Â* I first tried my preference, HDMI, but,
although I can see video, I am unable to hear sound.Â* The only way I
have been able to hear sound is to use the composite video-audio
outputs from the Asus into the TV.Â* The videos play just fine on any
of my computers.Â* I checked the encoding and they are MPEG2 video
with MPEG audio format.Â* What is the reason I cannot hear audio via
HDMI and what is the remedy?Â* Thanks.

What tests have your run on the TV so far ?

The TV is a Sony LCD KDL-46EX400.Â* It has four HDMI inputs, a USB port,
two composite and two video.Â* Since I have all of the videos on a
portable hard drive, the first thing I did was plug the hard drive
directly into the TV but it isn't recognized.


You could use one of your computers as a stimulus.

The advantage of the computer, is you have the
audio control panel and you can select a "digital output"
option that would cause audio over HDMI. Then use
even Audacity to drive an audio signal over the
cable to test.

None of my laptops have HDMI output, unless you're talking about another
method.


You don't say what your TV is, or whether it's of
an era to have HDMI audio or not. 7.1 LPCM might not
have any licensing implications, and that should work
as a mode if the TV has any HDMI audio capability at
all.

Well, under the HDMI4 settings, where I have the Asus connected
currently, I am presented with the following settings on the Sony:
dynamic, standard, clear voice, or custom.Â* Under custom, I can control
things like balance, etc, or have the sound coming from the speakers or
audio system.Â* I'm not sure what capabilities it has, but it has always
forwarded both sound and picture from HDMI from Blu Ray disc and DVD
players I have connected.


Maybe the Asus player cannot convert MPEG2 audio into
LPCM ?


The Asus audio settings include LPCM Multi, LPCM Dual, or Raw for HDMI
output.Â* I tried all three settings but still no audio over HDMI.

But I wouldn't bother re-encoding any movies
just yet, until you prove the TV works. Maybe
the TV requires you to use the remote and "select"
the HDMI audio from some menu, instead of the
composite input audio that seems to work right now ?
The TV might be "flexible" and it allows combining
HDMI video with Composite Audio, all under user control.

That's what I was hoping (use composite audio with HDMI picture) but
nothing I've found so far in the menu seems to allow it.


Â*Â*Â* Paul


I guess I spoke too soon. It seems to be working now, every video
playing both picture and sound via HDMI. Not sure why, will have to try
and go back and retrace settings.

JBI wrote:


The TV is a Sony LCD KDL-46EX400. It has four HDMI inputs, a USB port,
two composite and two video. Since I have all of the videos on a
portable hard drive, the first thing I did was plug the hard drive
directly into the TV but it isn't recognized.

That's what I was hoping (use composite audio with HDMI picture) but
nothing I've found so far in the menu seems to allow it.

Input/Output jacks
....

See the PC Input Signal Reference Chart for PC and HDMI IN 1/2/3/4 on page 46.

PC/HDMI IN 1
AUDIO INPUT Stereo mini jack, 500 mVrms, (Typical) / Impedance: 47 kilohms

That suggests there is a 1/8" jack associated with "HDMI IN 1" ???

*******

Your input options a

1) Video 2 - Red/White/Yellow Composite interface (self-contained)

2) HDMI 1 plus PC Audio 1/8" stereo input - (self-contained interface)

3) HDMI 2,3,4 are [digital] video+audio inputs

A wild guess is, there's no mixing needed with these, and
when you select Video2, HDMI1, or HDMI2/3/4, that lights
up their respective input cluster.

I've penciled in some stuff here.

https://i.postimg.cc/yY3h7Hqh/KDL-46...best_guess.gif

At least I think the PC Audio is 1/8". You can't tell
from the figure in the manual, what size that jack is.

Paul

In article , (JBI) wrote:

*From:* JBI
*Date:* Sun, 30 Sep 2018 13:01:05 -0400

I just finished transferring a bunch of VHS tapes over the MPEG2.
I used a Roxio module plugged into the USB port on the laptop with
the VHS VCR output plugged into it. I then used the Roxio software
in Win 7. I was able to save each video as MPEG2. I am using an
Asus media player to play the resulting files from a hard drive
attached to the player over the TV. I first tried my preference,
HDMI, but, although I can see video, I am unable to hear sound.
The only way I have been able to hear sound is to use the composite
video-audio outputs from the Asus into the TV. The videos play
just fine on any of my computers. I checked the encoding and they
are MPEG2 video with MPEG audio format. What is the reason I
cannot hear audio via HDMI and what is the remedy? Thanks.

Try another HDMI cable, preferably a high quality one. Some of the cheaper ones
don't support audio.
--
Regards
John ) Remove the obvious to reply...

John K.Eason wrote:
In article , (JBI) wrote:

*From:* JBI
*Date:* Sun, 30 Sep 2018 13:01:05 -0400

I just finished transferring a bunch of VHS tapes over the MPEG2.
I used a Roxio module plugged into the USB port on the laptop with
the VHS VCR output plugged into it. I then used the Roxio software
in Win 7. I was able to save each video as MPEG2. I am using an
Asus media player to play the resulting files from a hard drive
attached to the player over the TV. I first tried my preference,
HDMI, but, although I can see video, I am unable to hear sound.
The only way I have been able to hear sound is to use the composite
video-audio outputs from the Asus into the TV. The videos play
just fine on any of my computers. I checked the encoding and they
are MPEG2 video with MPEG audio format. What is the reason I
cannot hear audio via HDMI and what is the remedy? Thanks.

Try another HDMI cable, preferably a high quality one. Some of the
cheaper ones don't support audio.

Really? How is that possible (unless it's a conversion cable of some sort,
and not a direct cable)?

In article , says...

I just finished transferring a bunch of VHS tapes over the MPEG2. I
used a Roxio module plugged into the USB port on the laptop with the VHS
VCR output plugged into it. I then used the Roxio software in Win 7. I
was able to save each video as MPEG2. I am using an Asus media player
to play the resulting files from a hard drive attached to the player
over the TV. I first tried my preference, HDMI, but, although I can see
video, I am unable to hear sound. The only way I have been able to hear
sound is to use the composite video-audio outputs from the Asus into the
TV. The videos play just fine on any of my computers. I checked the
encoding and they are MPEG2 video with MPEG audio format. What is the
reason I cannot hear audio via HDMI and what is the remedy? Thanks.

Make sure pc has been yold to use the HDMO for playback, check Audio
dialogs.

I have two lcd tvs. Both use hdmi from a pc connected to the tv. One
uses the audio via hdmi the other requires separate audio input via rca
jacks (shared with a composite input which sucks!) because it uses a dvi
to hdmi to tv adapter cable which doesn't carry audio because the dvi
doesn't provide it.

In article ,
(Bill in Co) wrote:

*From:* "Bill in Co"
*Date:* Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:28:36 -0600

John K.Eason wrote:
In article , (JBI) wrote:

Try another HDMI cable, preferably a high quality one. Some of the
cheaper ones don't support audio.

Really? How is that possible (unless it's a conversion cable of
some sort, and not a direct cable)?

Hmm. Looks as if I was wrong there. I suspect that I may have changed the cable
*and* plugged it into a different HDMI socket on my TV when I had the problem
myself. Theound immediately started working and I assumed that it was a cheap cable
causing the problem.
--
Regards
John ) Remove the obvious to reply...

On 09/30/2018 04:29 PM, Paul wrote:
JBI wrote:


The TV is a Sony LCD KDL-46EX400.Â* It has four HDMI inputs, a USB
port, two composite and two video.Â* Since I have all of the videos on
a portable hard drive, the first thing I did was plug the hard drive
directly into the TV but it isn't recognized.

That's what I was hoping (use composite audio with HDMI picture) but
nothing I've found so far in the menu seems to allow it.

Input/Output jacks
...

See the PC Input Signal Reference Chart for PC and HDMI IN 1/2/3/4 on
page 46.

PC/HDMI IN 1
Â*Â*Â* AUDIO INPUT Stereo mini jack, 500 mVrms, (Typical) / Impedance: 47
kilohms

That suggests there is a 1/8" jack associated with "HDMI IN 1" ???

*******

Your input options a

1) Video 2 - Red/White/Yellow Composite interface (self-contained)

2) HDMI 1 plus PC Audio 1/8" stereo input - (self-contained interface)

3) HDMI 2,3,4 are [digital] video+audio inputs

A wild guess is, there's no mixing needed with these, and
when you select Video2, HDMI1, or HDMI2/3/4, that lights
up their respective input cluster.

I've penciled in some stuff here.

https://i.postimg.cc/yY3h7Hqh/KDL-46...best_guess.gif

Thanks for taking the time and including the gif, but I solved the issue
not long after my initial post yesterday. I'm not sure why HDMI audio
started working, but maybe I was using the "HDMI-like" port your were
talking about. Anyway, all videos seem to be presenting both
audiovisual over the HDMI now. I will save your image for future
reference, however, and thanks.




At least I think the PC Audio is 1/8". You can't tell
from the figure in the manual, what size that jack is.

Â*Â* Paul

On 10/1/2018 11:51 AM, JBI wrote:
On 09/30/2018 04:29 PM, Paul wrote:
JBI wrote:


The TV is a Sony LCD KDL-46EX400.Â* It has four HDMI inputs, a USB
port, two composite and two video.Â* Since I have all of the videos on
a portable hard drive, the first thing I did was plug the hard drive
directly into the TV but it isn't recognized.

That's what I was hoping (use composite audio with HDMI picture) but
nothing I've found so far in the menu seems to allow it.

Input/Output jacks
...

See the PC Input Signal Reference Chart for PC and HDMI IN 1/2/3/4 on
page 46.

PC/HDMI IN 1
Â*Â*Â*Â* AUDIO INPUT Stereo mini jack, 500 mVrms, (Typical) / Impedance:
47 kilohms

That suggests there is a 1/8" jack associated with "HDMI IN 1" ???

*******

Your input options a

1) Video 2 - Red/White/Yellow Composite interface (self-contained)

2) HDMI 1 plus PC Audio 1/8" stereo input - (self-contained interface)

3) HDMI 2,3,4 are [digital] video+audio inputs

A wild guess is, there's no mixing needed with these, and
when you select Video2, HDMI1, or HDMI2/3/4, that lights
up their respective input cluster.

I've penciled in some stuff here.

https://i.postimg.cc/yY3h7Hqh/KDL-46...best_guess.gif

Thanks for taking the time and including the gif, but I solved the issue
not long after my initial post yesterday.Â* I'm not sure why HDMI audio
started working, but maybe I was using the "HDMI-like" port your were
talking about.Â* Anyway, all videos seem to be presenting both
audiovisual over the HDMI now.Â* I will save your image for future
reference, however, and thanks.




At least I think the PC Audio is 1/8". You can't tell
from the figure in the manual, what size that jack is.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

I had the same problem to a 2nd monitor, actually a TV with an HDMI
input. I Googled "how to get audio from a computer hdmi to the monitor"
and per the instruction, rt click on the speaker icon and go to the
playback tab. Select the device you want and that's it. Anyway, it
worked for me.