Newer windows 10?

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 04:37:48 -0000, Linux User wrote:

On 12/11/15 21:38, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It claims
it's "the next version of windows", referring to it as "version 10,
10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?

Where/what is the link to download?

I am getting excited; Getting a hard one here #$?&@*/

Why do some people say hard one instead of hardon?

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 03:51:43 -0000, Big Al wrote:

Ron wrote on 11/12/2015 10:25 PM:
On 11/12/2015 5:25 PM, FredW wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:38:20 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It
claims it's "the next version of windows", referring to it as
"version 10, 10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?


- First Major Update for Windows 10 Available Today
http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...ailable-today/

Nice. I updated this computer on Sunday from Windows 8/8.1 and now there is already there a "free update"? This sounds
like Windows 8 all over again with the huge update. sigh

And why are they saying it's a "free update"? Does that mean they won't be free in the future as has been speculated?

Guess we shall see. Glad I made Windows 8 recovery discs.
The OP is on the Insider program. When that Win 10 does an upgrade from one build to another as he went from 10240 to
10586, it has to download almost a DVD worth.

If you upgraded from win 8 to win 10 you are not on the insider program and your updates will be just like the smaller
(relatively) update in win 8 and win 7 and win xp.

The update to windows 10 is free from win 7 or 8. Until summer of 2016 then you have to buy it.

I am the OP, and I am NOT on the insider program. I bought a copy of Windows 8 pro, which upgraded to 8.1 when it came out, then to 10 when that came out.

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 03:51:43 -0000, Big Al wrote:

Ron wrote on 11/12/2015 10:25 PM:
On 11/12/2015 5:25 PM, FredW wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:38:20 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It
claims it's "the next version of windows", referring to it as
"version 10, 10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?


- First Major Update for Windows 10 Available Today
http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...ailable-today/

Nice. I updated this computer on Sunday from Windows 8/8.1 and now there is already there a "free update"? This sounds
like Windows 8 all over again with the huge update. sigh

And why are they saying it's a "free update"? Does that mean they won't be free in the future as has been speculated?

Guess we shall see. Glad I made Windows 8 recovery discs.
The OP is on the Insider program. When that Win 10 does an upgrade from one build to another as he went from 10240 to
10586, it has to download almost a DVD worth.

If you upgraded from win 8 to win 10 you are not on the insider program and your updates will be just like the smaller
(relatively) update in win 8 and win 7 and win xp.

The update to windows 10 is free from win 7 or 8. Until summer of 2016 then you have to buy it.

I am the OP, and I am NOT on the insider program. I bought a copy of Windows 8 pro, which upgraded to 8.1 when it came out, then to 10 when that came out.

--
A British Engineer just started his own business in Afghanistan.
He's making land mines that look like prayer mats.
It's doing well.
He says prophets are going through the roof.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 03:53:08 -0000, Big Al wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/12/2015 6:33 PM:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:23:23 -0000, FredW wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:01:38 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:25:43 -0000, FredW wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:38:20 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It claims it's "the next version of windows",
referring to it as "version 10, 10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?


- First Major Update for Windows 10 Available Today
http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...ailable-today/

Thanks. Although all I noticed was a "service pack" which took as long to install as the original OS, and that my
see through title bars have gone :-(

Just looked through the list on your link and can't see anything I'd use. Any changes the normal desktop user would
see? I just internet, game, watch films, use MS Office etc.

Check all your settings!
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threa...5#post-2541152
A lot of things get changed back to defaults.

I did check, but I cannot find a setting for that, it was just on by default before. I did get a warning about 8gadgets
not being operable anymore, but the notice disappeared before I could get any more info.

My 8 gadgets fails on every update but a windows pops up later from 8 gadgets to "repair the installation" and it does
fix it too. So it keeps working.

I don't even know what 8gadgets is!

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 03:53:08 -0000, Big Al wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/12/2015 6:33 PM:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:23:23 -0000, FredW wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:01:38 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:25:43 -0000, FredW wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:38:20 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It claims it's "the next version of windows",
referring to it as "version 10, 10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?


- First Major Update for Windows 10 Available Today
http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...ailable-today/

Thanks. Although all I noticed was a "service pack" which took as long to install as the original OS, and that my
see through title bars have gone :-(

Just looked through the list on your link and can't see anything I'd use. Any changes the normal desktop user would
see? I just internet, game, watch films, use MS Office etc.

Check all your settings!
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threa...5#post-2541152
A lot of things get changed back to defaults.

I did check, but I cannot find a setting for that, it was just on by default before. I did get a warning about 8gadgets
not being operable anymore, but the notice disappeared before I could get any more info.

My 8 gadgets fails on every update but a windows pops up later from 8 gadgets to "repair the installation" and it does
fix it too. So it keeps working.

I don't even know what 8gadgets is!

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On 11/12/2015 11:29 PM, Paul wrote:
Linux User wrote:
On 12/11/15 21:38, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It
claims it's "the next version of windows", referring to it as
"version 10, 10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?

Where/what is the link to download?

I am getting excited

If you download using WinXP or Linux as your
OS, the link Winston provides will provide
a direct link to the ISO9660 file.

If you download using Vista/W7/W8/W10, the
web page provides a copy of MediaCreationTool.exe.
And it is a sort of stub loader for handling
the download.

There are fewer corrupted downloads with the
MediaCreationTool.

I've had two corrupted downloads using the direct
link method.

Just thought I should warn you before the
excitement wears off.

As a Linux User, you probably have a copy of Virtualbox.
If you obtain a very recent copy, it should support
Windows 10. And if you do the install in there,
the "Skip" box should appear when it is time to
enter the license key. This will give you
30 days to "evaluate" the product.

The DVD just released, should also accept a
Win7 or Win8 license key, entered in the
license box. The July 29 DVD did not support
that option.

Paul
What's the procedure for getting win10 upgrade installed on virtualbox?
I assume I have to install win7 first then upgrade to win10?

I've had difficulties in the past with XP virtual machines.
I updated Vbox and it broke activation for XP.

It did reactivate, but I am concerned that if I do this too
much, the key will get blacklisted and lost.

Is this gonna happen with win10? Then what? I won't have a key.

I don't have win7 keys to waste.

mike wrote:

What's the procedure for getting win10 upgrade installed on virtualbox?
I assume I have to install win7 first then upgrade to win10?

I've had difficulties in the past with XP virtual machines.
I updated Vbox and it broke activation for XP.

It did reactivate, but I am concerned that if I do this too
much, the key will get blacklisted and lost.

Is this gonna happen with win10? Then what? I won't have a key.

I don't have win7 keys to waste.

I don't see a particularly strong reason to burn license keys
for a VM.

If you install Windows 10 in VirtualBox, it would be an unactivated
copy. That's why the "Skip" item under the license box is important.

On physical hardware, if there is no existing qualifying OS, the
BIOS has no Win10 license key, or Win8 license key, then the
"Skip" box will be missing. Whereas WinXP, Vista, Win7 support
skipping past entering a license key (for IT people configuring
the machine first), and Win8/8.1 have install-only keys for
the same purpose, Win10 has no means to avoid a license key
on physical hardware.

But in VirtualBox for some reason, the "Skip" button is present.
You do your install, and it would run for 30 days.

In the same way that a copy of Win10 downloaded from
modern.ie would run for 30 days, before you'd have to
uncompress a clean copy and use that to refresh things.
(Usually the first screen gives you instructions for
resetting the thing, so you can go past 30 days.)

https://dev.windows.com/en-us/micros...s/vms/windows/

I would hope that VirtualBox would be backward compatible
enough, to continue supporting the same virtual devices
as the last copy did. I think I've made minor version
changes (4.x.y to 4.x.y+1), but haven't tried
any (4.x.y to 5.x.y) type changes with an existing
set of VMs.

In terms of computing a hardware hash, there is some
sort of security identifier that the VM uses to make
the install "unique", but details are too vague for
me to quote any of that. I haven't spotted an authoritative
description anywhere. As without something unique
inside the VM, your VM copy would be identical to mine.
It would be important to understand the details of
that mechanism, before burning up any $$$ license
keys.

Paul

On 13/11/2015 16:04, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 04:37:48 -0000, Linux User
wrote:

On 12/11/15 21:38, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It claims
it's "the next version of windows", referring to it as "version 10,
10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?

Where/what is the link to download?

I am getting excited; Getting a hard one here #$?&@*/

Why do some people say hard one instead of hardon?


Why do some people say pavement instead of sidewalk?

It just varies depending on where you are.

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On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:55:16 -0000, Brian Gregory wrote:

On 13/11/2015 16:04, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 04:37:48 -0000, Linux User
wrote:

On 12/11/15 21:38, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It claims
it's "the next version of windows", referring to it as "version 10,
10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?

Where/what is the link to download?

I am getting excited; Getting a hard one here #$?&@*/

Why do some people say hard one instead of hardon?


Why do some people say pavement instead of sidewalk?

It just varies depending on where you are.

No, here hardon is normal, but I hear hard one said quite a bit. I've always assumed they heard it incorrectly.

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:55:16 -0000, Brian Gregory wrote:

On 13/11/2015 16:04, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 04:37:48 -0000, Linux User
wrote:

On 12/11/15 21:38, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It claims
it's "the next version of windows", referring to it as "version 10,
10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?

Where/what is the link to download?

I am getting excited; Getting a hard one here #$?&@*/

Why do some people say hard one instead of hardon?


Why do some people say pavement instead of sidewalk?

It just varies depending on where you are.

No, here hardon is normal, but I hear hard one said quite a bit. I've always assumed they heard it incorrectly.

Neither. The word you are reaching for is "stiffy". BTW, "hardon"
is "hard-on".

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 17:17:20 -0000, Anonymous wrote:

In article
"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:55:16 -0000, Brian Gregory wrote:

On 13/11/2015 16:04, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 04:37:48 -0000, Linux User
wrote:

On 12/11/15 21:38, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
Interesting, my computer has just started a 3.5GB download. It claims
it's "the next version of windows", referring to it as "version 10,
10586". I've currently got "version 10, 10240".

It's downloading the whole DVD *again*?!?

Where/what is the link to download?

I am getting excited; Getting a hard one here #$?&@*/

Why do some people say hard one instead of hardon?


Why do some people say pavement instead of sidewalk?

It just varies depending on where you are.

No, here hardon is normal, but I hear hard one said quite a bit. I've always assumed they heard it incorrectly.

Neither. The word you are reaching for is "stiffy".

That's a simile. There are many many others, as with all naughty things.

http://www.googlefight.co.uk/"hard+one"-vs-hard-on.php

BTW, "hardon" is "hard-on".

OCD alert!

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