Win 10, 10586

A turd from winston's bunghole dropped out of his diapers
named itself Ken Springer and
cleverly posted this via :

On 11/16/15 7:56 AM, Bucky Breeder wrote:
=?UTF-8?Q?...winston=e2=80=ab?= posted this via
:

Why don't you copy and paste some more irrelevant **** from the
internets.

You are irrelevant. Your nym-shyft alter-egos are irrelevant.

Aw, Bucky, STFU!! I'm so tired of seeing people like you waste their
talents with BS like the above.

Awww, soooo cute... taking up for the winston-tard... Here, why don't you
make a complete list of stuff you're NOT "tired os seeing" so I can take it
to the next board meeting for due consideration in the new rules.

HTH.

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I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra, RIP 9/22/2015, always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

=?UTF-8?Q?...winston=e2=80=ab?= posted
this via :

[irrelevant babbling of anus-face snipped]

winston is not relevant. should be named "nancy" and most of her
posts are copy-paste from the Internet. Google's little helper.

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I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra, RIP 9/22/2015, always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Slimer wrote :
On 2015-11-17 9:38 AM, edevils wrote:
On 17/11/2015 15:27, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-11-17 9:22 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-17 09:15, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
For now I have reinstalled 10240 with my Macrium back ups, And all
is OK
again till time Windows does its Auto 10568 upgrade, I will see if
it goes better next time,

Thanks, Rene

I've been following this group waiting for signs that it's time to
move to Windows 10.

Looks like it will be a long wait.

Have a good day,

It's the prettiest, most secure and best-performing Windows. Clearly,
it provides _no_ valid reason to upgrade...

I did upgrade and I am not going back.
However, I am still in doubt as to what to recommend to the absolute
computer illiterate. What if a Windows 10 automatic update breaks
something?

There's as much that it would do so in Windows 10 as in Windows 7 and 8.
That's the way I see it. I've never had an upgrade break anything _ever_
so I'm not afraid that it would happen this time around.

Ditto that! The only conflict I've ever seen is with 3rd-party software
and certain addons/modifications which have problems pursuant to an update
or upgrade... And then they're pretty easily remedied. This time around
with the updates, certain versions of Outlook took a hit :

http://tinyurl.com/omtthq6

Turns out it was on older Windows versions (which are qualified for upgrade
to Windows 10). Hmmmm... Conspiracy theories?

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra, RIP 9/22/2015, always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

What is MCT tool? Googled it and got some odd results.

Kenny Cargill

"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ...

I have not received anything from MS so decided to update manually using
the MCT tool, The whole process was remarkably fast, 51 minutes for
download and install. No surprises and everything seems OK so far.

Regards, Rene

Kenny wrote:
What is MCT tool? Googled it and got some odd results.

Kenny Cargill

"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ...

I have not received anything from MS so decided to update manually using
the MCT tool, The whole process was remarkably fast, 51 minutes for
download and install. No surprises and everything seems OK so far.

Regards, Rene

MediaCreationTool.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...-media-upgrade

Microsoft web pages don't give it prominent enough billing
to use a microsoft.com link.

Paul

On 17/11/2015 17:07, Kenny wrote:
What is MCT tool? Googled it and got some odd results.

Kenny Cargill

"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ...

I have not received anything from MS so decided to update manually using
the MCT tool, The whole process was remarkably fast, 51 minutes for
download and install. No surprises and everything seems OK so far.

Regards, Rene

Me too. By the way, you can use MediaCreationTool.exe in different ways.
When you run it, you can choose to "Upgrade this PC now" or you can
"Create installation media for another PC".
Both ways, you can use it to update Windows 10 to build 10586 (actually
a new installation over the old one, keeping user data and programs).

Thanks, had previously downloaded Win 10 ISO but this is a newer version.
Hadn't installed it yet because I'm planning on buying an SSD.

Kenny

"Paul" wrote in message ...

Kenny wrote:
What is MCT tool? Googled it and got some odd results.

Kenny Cargill

"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message
...

I have not received anything from MS so decided to update manually using
the MCT tool, The whole process was remarkably fast, 51 minutes for
download and install. No surprises and everything seems OK so far.

Regards, Rene

MediaCreationTool.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...-media-upgrade

Microsoft web pages don't give it prominent enough billing
to use a microsoft.com link.

Paul

Is this a generic, like a retail, version of Win 10 or has it been tailored
to this laptop? Also it's an Acer laptop, what happens to the present Win
8.1 Acer Recovery partition, do I delete/format it?

Kenny

"Kenny" wrote in message
...

Thanks, had previously downloaded Win 10 ISO but this is a newer version.
Hadn't installed it yet because I'm planning on buying an SSD.

Kenny

"Paul" wrote in message ...

Kenny wrote:
What is MCT tool? Googled it and got some odd results.

Kenny Cargill

"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message
...

I have not received anything from MS so decided to update manually using
the MCT tool, The whole process was remarkably fast, 51 minutes for
download and install. No surprises and everything seems OK so far.

Regards, Rene

MediaCreationTool.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...-media-upgrade

Microsoft web pages don't give it prominent enough billing
to use a microsoft.com link.

Paul

Kenny wrote:
Is this a generic, like a retail, version of Win 10 or has it been
tailored to this laptop? Also it's an Acer laptop, what happens to the
present Win 8.1 Acer Recovery partition, do I delete/format it?

Kenny

If the tool makes an ISO9660 file, as far as I know it
should be the same ISO as everyone else in your country.

If the tool carries out an installation directly,
there is always the possibility (at some point), it
will fetch drivers for your specific computer model.

AFAIK, the Recovery partition stays as is. An OEM partition
should be untouched (that 12GB partition from the factory).
Even other flavors of Recovery, such a Refresh/Reset, may
not be configured correctly by default.

Some of the methods described here, actually
require the user to do some setup work in
advance. Otherwise, there may be a less-than-desirable
outcome. For my planning purposes, I just assume these
are all broken, and thus, come up with a Plan B
of my own. When refresh/reset first came out, it
actually worked. And it has gone downhill from there.

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4...dows-10-a.html

My general assumption is, if I need to push any button
similar to any of those, I will be taken back
to "cave-man days" :-) With some reading, pre-planning,
and execution, maybe good things happen.

I have enough OS installations here, I could never keep
up with this topic on any of them.

Paul

Bucky Breeder wrote:
=?UTF-8?Q?...winston=e2=80=ab?= posted this via
:
Bucky Breeder wrote:
=?UTF-8?Q?...winston=e2=80=ab?= posted this via
:

Why don't you copy and paste some more irrelevant **** from the
internets.

You are irrelevant. Your nym-shyft alter-egos are irrelevant.

Ah, Bucky I thought you were more talented than that.

Same user name on nntp and same sig (...winston) everywhere else since
1995.

A liar too... who wuda guessed that one?

Let me know when your observation talents improve sufficiently to find
any other.


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....winston
msft mvp windows experience

edevils wrote:
On 17/11/2015 15:27, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-11-17 9:22 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-17 09:15, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
For now I have reinstalled 10240 with my Macrium back ups, And all
is OK
again till time Windows does its Auto 10568 upgrade, I will see if it
goes better next time,

Thanks, Rene

I've been following this group waiting for signs that it's time to move
to Windows 10.

Looks like it will be a long wait.

Have a good day,

It's the prettiest, most secure and best-performing Windows. Clearly, it
provides _no_ valid reason to upgrade...

I did upgrade and I am not going back.
However, I am still in doubt as to what to recommend to the absolute
computer illiterate. What if a Windows 10 automatic update breaks
something?

What's more likely is that MSFT efforts to fine tune the W7/8x upgrade
GWX app and WU route will create more issues with 7/8x. Win10
auto-updating is probably a lower risk of breaking something due to the
volume of feedback and telemetry from over 10 million Windows Insiders
auto-updating Win10.

Win7 is past the mainstream support, 8.0 ends in January, and 8.1
diminishing in lieu of 10. Bottom line - MSFT efforts on reliability
and robustness of its supported o/s are directed at Win10.



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....winston
msft mvp windows experience

Paul wrote:

If the tool carries out an installation directly,
there is always the possibility (at some point), it
will fetch drivers for your specific computer model.

The Win10 installation will provide or fetch updated drivers if
necessary. In some cases, newer drivers may be available but may or may
not be offered later if the current drivers are sufficiently compatible.
As an example - laptops using a Synaptics Touch pad could receive an
updated driver during the 1511/10586 installation and setup process and
another offered later in 10586. Whether or not updates during install
and later are offered also depends on the existing driver being used in
7 or 8x or 10240.


AFAIK, the Recovery partition stays as is. An OEM partition
should be untouched (that 12GB partition from the factory).
Even other flavors of Recovery, such a Refresh/Reset, may
not be configured correctly by default.

There are still a marginal occurrences of Recovery Partition intact but
not usable where OEM user created or provided DVD's are necessary, thus
anyone considering updating should have one or the other or both
available...better yet as many have recommended create the image of the
prior qualifying o/s before upgrading to 10 from 7x/8x (likewise an
image of 10 (10240) should be done before moving from 10240 to 10586.

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....winston
msft mvp windows experience

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 08:40:07 -0500, Big Al wrote:

Monty wrote on 11/16/2015 11:13 PM:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:08:45 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

After a couple days I find that 10586 has screwed up a couple programs,
One is the Windows10 color program to change taskbar and border colors,
It will no longer work.

A few suggestions you might like to explore that I used to rectify
some concerns (similar to yours) that I also didn't like.

1. Change the Color of Taskbar and Window Border in Windows 10
http://www.isunshare.com/windows-10/...indows-10.html

2. Windows 10 Color Control
http://rammichael.com/getting-bright...-in-windows-10

3. GiMeSpace Win8.x Color Changer (also works with Win10-10586)
www.gimespace.com/win8color.html

4. Personalise Panel for Windows10
http://winaero.com

5. Ultimate Windows Tweaker 4.0
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultima...r-4-windows-10

The layout of my desktop looks like my OS is Windows7; behind the mask
it is Windows10 10586. If you don't mind a 3MB file you can see how
the Taskbar and windows borders relate to my chosen color of orange.
You will note that the title bar and border colors are consistent on
the active panel and the border colors are reduced in color for the
inactive windows. The file at Mediafire can be previewed at:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/7s3ei9...015-11-17_.png


But the worst is Mozilla Thunderbird, My line spacing has increased to
about one and one half to two times normal, in all 3 panes and the top
bar where the minimize-MIN/MAX and shut down X is only showing about
half height.
I have deleted the program and all profiles and reloaded 2 or 3 times
to no avail, It is ugly and I have lost half of my space, NOT good.
I also don,t much care for the black menus in a few spots.
I may need a new newsreader if Tbird is not repaired, Any Ideas? I have
tried a few free ones but still like Tbird best.

I don't believe that you are looking at a Thunderbird problem. I also
run Tbird (38.2.0) and have had no problems at all. My version has a
number of add-ons supplied as part of Softmaker Office 2016. Prior to
installing Office 2016, Thunderbird was stock standard.

Good luck,


Where did you get the wallpaper. To heck with the color control, where's the paper? LOL

The wallpaper is from a theme put together by photographer Hayley
Elizabeth which is called Manitoba theme.

The set of pictures can be downloaded from:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-au/w...download-theme

Although I liked all the pictures, the one I chose for my desktop was
chosen partly because the icons on my desktop are very easy to find!


Seriously, the difference in color between an active and inactive window does not look that much.

The differences are variable, depending on the software developer and
what rules they choose to follow. While the Title bar may not change
density whether active or inactive. the other three edges mostly do,
and the name in the title bar is also not as dark when inactive. The
programs which have a Mozilla based origin appear to follow their own
standards, including different border sizes. Such variations are not
a show-stopper for me - I just wanted to set the border colors to a
color of my choice and also I didn't like the VERY skinny borders that
Windows 10 gave us.

I have uploaded a small picture which should indicate to you why I
mentioned a difference in the border color between active and inactive
windows. You can view it at:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/7klqqd...015-11-18_.png

Cheers,