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  #16  
Old March 20th 10, 04:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default WIA and hibernation again

Jose wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:31 am, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test
again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.
You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.
Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until
after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter
visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound
and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking
them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back.
I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects,
let me know.
Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many
of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the
TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why
RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I
uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just
delete it from RAM.
There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program
which I can uncheck for these tests.
And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it.
Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system
with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the
Task List, unchecked and not in RAM.

And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?


Uncheck ISUSPM - that is the InstallShield stuff which does want to
run and look for updates periodically. It is configurable, but wants
to look once a day. That could mean after 1 hour of idle, it checks.
You can change it, but I would uninstall it, but you will have to look
for it yourself to see how to do these things. Look in Add/Remove
Programs.

Reboot and if those processes are still running in TM, terminate them.

Where is that CCcleaner Startup screenshot!?

Sorry, Jose.....I thought I had posted it.
Here's the way it is now. ope you can read it.
BTW, CCcleaner, when I ran
it yesterday, cleaned out the "Run" places that I like to keep.

You say those files are configurable, but I don't know how.
I don't think I'll find them in Add/Remove.....

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/ccshot1.jpg
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  #17  
Old March 20th 10, 04:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

Jose wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:31 am, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test
again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.
You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.
Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until
after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter
visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound
and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking
them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back.
I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects,
let me know.
Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many
of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the
TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why
RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I
uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just
delete it from RAM.
There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program
which I can uncheck for these tests.
And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it.
Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system
with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the
Task List, unchecked and not in RAM.

And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?


Uncheck ISUSPM - that is the InstallShield stuff which does want to
run and look for updates periodically. It is configurable, but wants
to look once a day. That could mean after 1 hour of idle, it checks.
You can change it, but I would uninstall it, but you will have to look
for it yourself to see how to do these things. Look in Add/Remove
Programs.

Reboot and if those processes are still running in TM, terminate them.

Where is that CCcleaner Startup screenshot!?


I see that ISUS and a few others got put back in my startup list.
I have removed them again. I hope you can work with the really
sanitized status that I sent before, and which it now has again.
  #18  
Old March 20th 10, 05:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jose
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Default WIA and hibernation again

On Mar 20, 11:38*am, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:31 am, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Let's say you just disable 5 and test. *No good? *Do 5 more and test
again. *Works now? *Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. *Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. *Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.
You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. *If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.
Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until
after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter
visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound
and welcome and I started with the 7 *you listed, overnight, taking
them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back.
I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects,
let me know.
Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many
of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the
TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why
RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I
uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just
delete it from RAM.
There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program
which I can uncheck for these tests.
And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it.
Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system
with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the
Task List, unchecked and not in RAM.
And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?


Uncheck ISUSPM - that is the InstallShield stuff which does want to
run and look for updates periodically. * It is configurable, but wants
to look once a day. *That could mean after 1 hour of idle, it checks.
You can change it, but I would uninstall it, but you will have to look
for it yourself to see how to do these things. *Look in Add/Remove
Programs.


Reboot and if those processes are still running in TM, terminate them.


Where is that CCcleaner Startup screenshot!?


Sorry, Jose.....I thought I had posted it.
Here's the way it is now. ope you can read it.
BTW, CCcleaner, when I ran
it yesterday, cleaned out the "Run" places that I like to keep.

You say those files are configurable, but I don't know how.
I don't think I'll find them in Add/Remove.....

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/ccshot1.jpg


Almost. We need to see the Startup info:

Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup
items are easy to see on one screen. CCleaner is good for this since
it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other
useful functions you can check out later. You can uninstall CCleaner
later if you don't use it.

Example:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg

I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield
thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure
it, I would uninstall it. I will look some more. It wants to update
once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one
hour sounds good, huh?

Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. What is
left are things you or your other programs have installed. If you see
any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. I can't recall in
recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a
lot of TMs. If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through
msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting).

Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them,
then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those
messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have
to install it myself (probably). From what I read, it is all
ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to
install itself. Their original WWW page is unhooked.

Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show
hidden files and folders):

C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information

I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty.
Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. That
would be just like me.
  #19  
Old March 20th 10, 06:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

Jose wrote:
(snip)
Almost. We need to see the Startup info:

Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup
items are easy to see on one screen. CCleaner is good for this since
it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other
useful functions you can check out later. You can uninstall CCleaner
later if you don't use it.

Example:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg

I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield
thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure
it, I would uninstall it. I will look some more. It wants to update
once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one
hour sounds good, huh?

Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. What is
left are things you or your other programs have installed. If you see
any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. I can't recall in
recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a
lot of TMs. If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through
msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting).

Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them,
then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those
messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have
to install it myself (probably). From what I read, it is all
ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to
install itself. Their original WWW page is unhooked.

Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show
hidden files and folders):

C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information

I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty.
Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. That
would be just like me.


Well, I think I'm getting more used to CCcleaner.....see these:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1a.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1b.jpg

Clearing everything except HPBootop from Startup list, rebooting,
cleaning everything in the User list (except the HP item) but
not touching System items..... I find that rebooting causes issch.exe
and realsched.exe and ISUSPM to be placed back in Startup again,
every time. While booting up, I watch
TM and I see that agent.exe goes into operation, and then
disappears. Maybe that file gets executed and does these nasty
things.

Anyway, I did find the IS folder, but it has a few dozen lines that
look like Registry entries but nothing that looks like a .exe or
the like. I'd be willing to disable ISUSPM ..... but first I gotta
find the rascal.
  #20  
Old March 20th 10, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Bill P[_3_]
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Default WIA and hibernation again


"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Jose wrote:
(snip)
Almost. We need to see the Startup info:

Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup
items are easy to see on one screen. CCleaner is good for this since
it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other
useful functions you can check out later. You can uninstall CCleaner
later if you don't use it.

Example:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg

I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield
thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure
it, I would uninstall it. I will look some more. It wants to update
once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one
hour sounds good, huh?

Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. What is
left are things you or your other programs have installed. If you see
any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. I can't recall in
recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a
lot of TMs. If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through
msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting).

Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them,
then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those
messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have
to install it myself (probably). From what I read, it is all
ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to
install itself. Their original WWW page is unhooked.

Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show
hidden files and folders):

C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information

I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty.
Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. That
would be just like me.


Well, I think I'm getting more used to CCcleaner.....see these:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1a.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1b.jpg

Clearing everything except HPBootop from Startup list, rebooting,
cleaning everything in the User list (except the HP item) but
not touching System items..... I find that rebooting causes issch.exe and
realsched.exe and ISUSPM to be placed back in Startup again,
every time. While booting up, I watch
TM and I see that agent.exe goes into operation, and then
disappears. Maybe that file gets executed and does these nasty
things.

Anyway, I did find the IS folder, but it has a few dozen lines that
look like Registry entries but nothing that looks like a .exe or
the like. I'd be willing to disable ISUSPM ..... but first I gotta
find the rascal.


This is where it is :-
What is the isuspm.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe "
Bill


  #21  
Old March 21st 10, 01:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jose
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Posts: 3,140
Default WIA and hibernation again

On Mar 20, 1:14*pm, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
Jose wrote:

(snip)





Almost. *We need to see the Startup info:


Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup
items are easy to see on one screen. * CCleaner is good for this since
it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other
useful functions you can check out later. *You can uninstall CCleaner
later if you don't use it.


Example:


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg


I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield
thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure
it, I would uninstall it. *I will look some more. *It wants to update
once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one
hour sounds good, huh?


Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. *What is
left are things you or your other programs have installed. *If you see
any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. *I can't recall in
recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a
lot of TMs. *If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through
msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting).


Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them,
then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those
messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have
to install it myself (probably). *From what I read, it is all
ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to
install itself. *Their original WWW page is unhooked.


Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show
hidden files and folders):


C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information


I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty.
Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. *That
would be just like me.


Well, I think I'm getting more used to CCcleaner.....see these:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1a.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1b.jpg

Clearing everything except HPBootop from Startup list, rebooting,
cleaning everything in the User list (except the HP item) but
not touching System items..... I find that rebooting causes issch.exe
and realsched.exe and ISUSPM to be placed back in Startup again,
every time. While booting up, I watch
TM and I see that * agent.exe * *goes into operation, and then
disappears. Maybe that file gets executed and does these nasty
things.

Anyway, I did find the IS folder, but it has a few dozen lines that
look like Registry entries but nothing that looks like a .exe or
the like. I'd be willing to disable ISUSPM ..... but first I gotta
find the rascal.


That's looking pretty good. You are getting the hang of it now!

Next time, sort CCcleaner by the Enabled field by clicking the column
heading so all the Yes items are at the top. Don't care about the No
items. Drag the column headings so you can see more (make them
wider). What you have is okay, but it will be more readable when you
learn how to sort the columns and drag the column widths around so it
is just wide enough to show all the characters - especially the File
column. See my example - nice and wide, takes up the whole screen,
then take the screen shot.

If you see those IS things after reboot, just end them and realsched
too. If something goes wrong just reboot and they will start up.
Ending or disabling does not equal uninstalling. You are just trying
to figure out what is keeping you from Hibernating, then you can
figure out what to do about it when you know what it is. Kill
whatever is suspicious and wait.

I can't find a system with that IS junk on there, so I will have to
figure out how to install it. You could just rename the executables
where Bill P is pointing, and that may give you some error, but they
won't start anymore! Check the Services tab in msconfig too and see
if they are disableable. Can't find in in Add/Remove either?


  #22  
Old March 21st 10, 02:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

Jose wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:14 pm, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
Jose wrote:

(snip)





Almost. We need to see the Startup info:
Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup
items are easy to see on one screen. CCleaner is good for this since
it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other
useful functions you can check out later. You can uninstall CCleaner
later if you don't use it.
Example:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg
I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield
thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure
it, I would uninstall it. I will look some more. It wants to update
once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one
hour sounds good, huh?
Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. What is
left are things you or your other programs have installed. If you see
any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. I can't recall in
recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a
lot of TMs. If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through
msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting).
Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them,
then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those
messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have
to install it myself (probably). From what I read, it is all
ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to
install itself. Their original WWW page is unhooked.
Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show
hidden files and folders):
C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information
I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty.
Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. That
would be just like me.

Well, I think I'm getting more used to CCcleaner.....see these:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1a.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1b.jpg

Clearing everything except HPBootop from Startup list, rebooting,
cleaning everything in the User list (except the HP item) but
not touching System items..... I find that rebooting causes issch.exe
and realsched.exe and ISUSPM to be placed back in Startup again,
every time. While booting up, I watch
TM and I see that agent.exe goes into operation, and then
disappears. Maybe that file gets executed and does these nasty
things.

Anyway, I did find the IS folder, but it has a few dozen lines that
look like Registry entries but nothing that looks like a .exe or
the like. I'd be willing to disable ISUSPM ..... but first I gotta
find the rascal.


That's looking pretty good. You are getting the hang of it now!

Next time, sort CCcleaner by the Enabled field by clicking the column
heading so all the Yes items are at the top. Don't care about the No
items. Drag the column headings so you can see more (make them
wider). What you have is okay, but it will be more readable when you
learn how to sort the columns and drag the column widths around so it
is just wide enough to show all the characters - especially the File
column. See my example - nice and wide, takes up the whole screen,
then take the screen shot.

If you see those IS things after reboot, just end them and realsched
too. If something goes wrong just reboot and they will start up.
Ending or disabling does not equal uninstalling. You are just trying
to figure out what is keeping you from Hibernating, then you can
figure out what to do about it when you know what it is. Kill
whatever is suspicious and wait.

I can't find a system with that IS junk on there, so I will have to
figure out how to install it. You could just rename the executables
where Bill P is pointing, and that may give you some error, but they
won't start anymore! Check the Services tab in msconfig too and see
if they are disableable. Can't find in in Add/Remove either?


Jose, except for refining what CC shows, I've been following you and I
have taken a half dozen files, including realsched.exe, agent issch
ISUSPM and just left hem in place, with their extension changed to .EXX ...

As we agreed, it takes hours to let it run and go to hibernate and
then bring it out to see if it's clean... but fortunately my house
guests are out on other ventures in a strange land (South Florida) and
I have time. When they're here the computer stays busy/

Hang loose. I think I'm almost ready to graduate from your tutoring
course.
  #23  
Old March 26th 10, 03:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

John John - MVP wrote:

If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2
hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because
something keeps it awake...

This is what I would try:

Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots,
leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does
hibernate.

If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not
touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state

John

Just one more point: I am at the stage of using SP2 (not SP3)
but I believe I have installed one of the SP3 'fixes' which
were supposed to fix hibernate problems......
  #24  
Old March 26th 10, 07:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

John John - MVP wrote:

If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2
hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because
something keeps it awake...

This is what I would try:

Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots,
leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does
hibernate.

If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not
touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state

John


John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours
(hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing
and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions
again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is
this time. Maybe this evening.
  #25  
Old March 26th 10, 08:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default WIA and hibernation again

William; I compared my services with yours since my system does not fail to
hibernate.
I'll post the differences. Do a Google search for 'viewpoint manager
services'. Looks suspicious.
I would also suspect Norton AntiVirus.
Differences (not on my system) a
LexBce Server
lxct device
Norton AntiVirus-------I would definately get rid of this.
Pervasive PSQL Workgroup Engine
Speed Disk Service------Part of Norton
Viewpoint Manager Service


"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
John John - MVP wrote:

If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2
hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because
something keeps it awake...

This is what I would try:

Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave
it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate.

If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not
touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state

John


John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours
(hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing
and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions
again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is
this time. Maybe this evening.



  #26  
Old March 26th 10, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default WIA and hibernation again

Dear Unk:
Thanks for working with me. I'll let John comment more on
your list, but Norton Anti-Virus is my main protection and
I don't leave home without it. I could, of course, disconnect from
the phone line and disable it to see if somehow that's the cause.
One thing at a time.....

Unknown wrote:
William; I compared my services with yours since my system does not fail to
hibernate.
I'll post the differences. Do a Google search for 'viewpoint manager
services'. Looks suspicious.
I would also suspect Norton AntiVirus.
Differences (not on my system) a
LexBce Server
lxct device
Norton AntiVirus-------I would definately get rid of this.
Pervasive PSQL Workgroup Engine
Speed Disk Service------Part of Norton
Viewpoint Manager Service


"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
John John - MVP wrote:
If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2
hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because
something keeps it awake...

This is what I would try:

Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave
it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate.

If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not
touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state

John

John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours
(hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing
and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions
again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is
this time. Maybe this evening.



  #27  
Old March 26th 10, 11:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default WIA and hibernation again

William B. Lurie wrote:
John John - MVP wrote:

If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after
2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because
something keeps it awake...

This is what I would try:

Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots,
leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does
hibernate.

If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again
not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state

John


John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours
(hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing
and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions
again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is
this time. Maybe this evening.


I took another small step, John. I like to try new things on my Clone
system before I take a chance with my Main Drive......so I printed
out KB310353 and followed its Method 2 on my clone system. It was very
easy, and I did it and immediately went away for 2-3/4 hours ......and
when I returned, the power light on my tower was blinking, the screen
was on, and was not even in Screen Saver mode, which to me means that
some Event occurred. It goes to Screen Saver at 10 minutes. I undid the
msconfig changes and returned here, to my Master Drive.

So I would judge that Clean Boot didn't show any difference. What's
your next advice?
  #28  
Old March 27th 10, 06:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
John John - MVP[_2_]
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Default WIA and hibernation again

William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
John John - MVP wrote:

If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate
after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state
because something keeps it awake...

This is what I would try:

Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots,
leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does
hibernate.

If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again
not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state

John


John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours
(hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing
and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions
again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is
this time. Maybe this evening.


I took another small step, John. I like to try new things on my Clone
system before I take a chance with my Main Drive......so I printed
out KB310353 and followed its Method 2 on my clone system. It was very
easy, and I did it and immediately went away for 2-3/4 hours ......and
when I returned, the power light on my tower was blinking, the screen
was on, and was not even in Screen Saver mode, which to me means that
some Event occurred. It goes to Screen Saver at 10 minutes. I undid the
msconfig changes and returned here, to my Master Drive.

So I would judge that Clean Boot didn't show any difference. What's
your next advice?


Take a look in the Event Viewer and see if anything relevant is logged.
Check the log on the clone too.

John
  #29  
Old March 27th 10, 12:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

John John - MVP wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
John John - MVP wrote:

If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate
after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state
because something keeps it awake...

This is what I would try:

Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots,
leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does
hibernate.

If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again
not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state

John

John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours
(hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing
and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions
again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is
this time. Maybe this evening.


I took another small step, John. I like to try new things on my Clone
system before I take a chance with my Main Drive......so I printed
out KB310353 and followed its Method 2 on my clone system. It was very
easy, and I did it and immediately went away for 2-3/4 hours ......and
when I returned, the power light on my tower was blinking, the screen
was on, and was not even in Screen Saver mode, which to me means that
some Event occurred. It goes to Screen Saver at 10 minutes. I undid the
msconfig changes and returned here, to my Master Drive.

So I would judge that Clean Boot didn't show any difference. What's
your next advice?


Take a look in the Event Viewer and see if anything relevant is logged.
Check the log on the clone too.

John

I'll have to do the clean boot again to be sure, but I don't think
it told a noteworthy story. But, because I, too, am suspicious that
the Norton AV software is a likely suspect, I made a different test
overnight, on this Master system.

I disabled all Norton/Symantec entries in the services.msc list,
disconnected from the phone line, and let it try to go to sleep
at 10 P.M...... and when I checked nine hours later, the power
light on the tower was flashing. So I immediately copied and
saved the 3 pages in the Events Log, and will paste them in below.
I was disappointed in a way, at not seeing the every-hour intervention,
and I don't know if it's good news or not. What's your take on it?
(I'm sorry for the length of the post; I haven't worked out the
free uploading thing yet).

But the overnight Events Log is surprisingly bare; maybe that does point
the accusing finger at the Norton software. I can repeat that test
overnight with just that one difference.
Note the usual 7026 error when booting at 6:50 this morning,
that I've mentioned before, and nothing else.

I really ought to do the clean boot thing again on the clone, and
record the Events Log.

Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
Information 3/27/2010 6:49:21 AM Norton AntiVirus None 35 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:49:19 AM Norton AntiVirus None 34 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:45:45 AM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:44:02 AM Viewpoint Manager Service None 0 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:43:11 AM Norton Save and Restore Medium Priority 100 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:42:26 AM Norton AntiVirus None 35 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:42:25 AM Norton AntiVirus None 34 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006

Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 848 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:02 AM Security Privilege Use 576 LOCAL
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:02 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 LOCAL
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:53 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:53 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:46 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:46 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:44 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:39 AM Security Privilege Use 576 LOCAL
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:39 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 LOCAL
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:21 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:15 AM Security Logon/Logoff 540
ANONYMOUS LOGON COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:12 AM Security Privilege Use 576 LOCAL
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:12 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 LOCAL
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:06 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:06 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:06 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:05 AM Security Policy Change 806 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Privilege Use 576
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Account Logon 680 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Logon/Logoff 538
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Privilege Use 576
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Account Logon 680 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:02 AM Security Privilege Use 576 LOCAL
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:02 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 LOCAL
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:02 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:02 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK
SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 518 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:47:55 AM Security System Event 513 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:47:48 AM Security Logon/Logoff 551
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Success Audit 3/26/2010 10:29:50 PM Security System Event 517 SYSTEM
COMPAQ-2006

Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
Information 3/27/2010 7:02:21 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 7:02:20 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 7:00:55 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 7:00:55 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Error 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7026 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:50:02 AM SRTSP None 2003 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:48:47 AM Tcpip None 4201 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM eventlog None 6005 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM eventlog None 6009 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:47:55 AM eventlog None 6006 N/A COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:45:45 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:45:45 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:44:02 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:44:02 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:42:56 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:42:56 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:42:49 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:42:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:42:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:41:19 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A
COMPAQ-2006
Information 3/27/2010 6:41:19 AM Service Control Manager None 7035
SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
  #30  
Old March 27th 10, 01:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default WIA and hibernation again

John John - MVP wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
John John - MVP wrote:

If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate
after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state
because something keeps it awake...

This is what I would try:

Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots,
leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does
hibernate.

If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again
not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state

John

John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours
(hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing
and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions
again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is
this time. Maybe this evening.


I took another small step, John. I like to try new things on my Clone
system before I take a chance with my Main Drive......so I printed
out KB310353 and followed its Method 2 on my clone system. It was very
easy, and I did it and immediately went away for 2-3/4 hours ......and
when I returned, the power light on my tower was blinking, the screen
was on, and was not even in Screen Saver mode, which to me means that
some Event occurred. It goes to Screen Saver at 10 minutes. I undid the
msconfig changes and returned here, to my Master Drive.

So I would judge that Clean Boot didn't show any difference. What's
your next advice?


Take a look in the Event Viewer and see if anything relevant is logged.
Check the log on the clone too.

John

The scene changes again, John. I just heard from Symantec, that Norton
AntiVirus does do Idle Time Scan. I had it set for "Quarterly" so it
should not have interfered. But with their help, I reset it to *never*
and maybe that will be the answer. I can live with no idle time scans.
So put my other testing on hold while I find out if hibernate now
works right.
 




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