Why would I install SP2?

"I do not use IE or OE"

You used OE to post this message. that makes you a liar, does it not?
From the headers of your message:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Which BTW, is SP2.

Perhaps you meant something other than ""I do not use IE or OE".

"Testy" wrote in message
...
That is your OPINION mine differs.
I do not use IE or OE
Other popup blockers are more effective
Windows firewall is inferior to what I use
I don't need Security Center to remind me to up my AV
Never have and never will use Auto updates
I am perfectly satisfied with my solutions.
Feel free to differ but it is only an OPINION not really a fact.
Have a nice day and happy computing.

Testy

"Dick Kistler" wrote in message
...
Testy wrote:
Secret? It is very simple.
First and foremost is Common Sense (which really is not that common)

I have a highly configurable hardware firewall.
I keep my Anti Virus up to date and do additional online scans on a
regular basis.
I do not open ANY UNKNOWN emails.
I do not download tons of "free" software.
I do not go to porn sites or use things like kazaa.
I stay completely aware of what is installed on my computer.
I manually monitor all network traffic.

Probably a couple of other things too but that is just off the top of
my head.

Sorry, Testy, not good enough. Even if you do all those things(which are
good practice-depending on what common sense means) with SP1, doing them
with SP2 would make your system even more secure.

The reason I installed SP2 is because of the below. Any one of them
would
have been enough.

Bugfixes:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;811113

Features: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/features.mspx

Changes in Functionality:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx

All these things make XP a better, more secure, more functional OS.
Ignoring this because you haven't yet had a problem is similar to not
switching from bias ply tires to radials because you haven't yet had a
flat tire. The only real question is not whether but when to install
SP2.

Dick Kistler




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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Also, you earlier said:

"I do not have and never will have SP2 installed"
You're using SP2 now.

You said: "I thought it should have been obvious from my comments that I DID
have it at
one time"
You still do.

"I personally did not have any "problems" with SP2 I just had to disable
most of its "features" it serves no useful function to me or my clients,
which by the way are approaching 4 MILLION machine hours virus, spyware and
hacker free"
Then said:
"Don/t bother. It gave me constant crashes"

You said:
"I am only a small cog in a huge worldwide conglomerate. All actions were
taken at the highest level since several nations security were involved."

"My employers are not supporting it"

Then said:
"No I installed it to see what kind of problems I can expect from my 200
clients."

200 clients is considered a "huge worldwide conglomerate" in your opinion?

You said:
"Just look of the dozens of posts that still appear here each day. I have no
problems with SP1, I ran the Beta of SP2 on one of my computers but it
doesn't do anything for me. I have properly secured my computer. I do not
use IE, OE, Auto Update nor XP's firewall so why would I need it. I
selectively apply updates that apply to my own particular situation"

This ""huge worldwide conglomerate" and "my 200 clients" doesn't apply to
your particular situation?
LOL

Other references:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...om&btnG=Search

"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
"I do not use IE or OE"

You used OE to post this message. that makes you a liar, does it not?
From the headers of your message:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Which BTW, is SP2.

Perhaps you meant something other than ""I do not use IE or OE".

"Testy" wrote in message
...
That is your OPINION mine differs.
I do not use IE or OE
Other popup blockers are more effective
Windows firewall is inferior to what I use
I don't need Security Center to remind me to up my AV
Never have and never will use Auto updates
I am perfectly satisfied with my solutions.
Feel free to differ but it is only an OPINION not really a fact.
Have a nice day and happy computing.

Testy

"Dick Kistler" wrote in message
...
Testy wrote:
Secret? It is very simple.
First and foremost is Common Sense (which really is not that common)

I have a highly configurable hardware firewall.
I keep my Anti Virus up to date and do additional online scans on a
regular basis.
I do not open ANY UNKNOWN emails.
I do not download tons of "free" software.
I do not go to porn sites or use things like kazaa.
I stay completely aware of what is installed on my computer.
I manually monitor all network traffic.

Probably a couple of other things too but that is just off the top of
my head.

Sorry, Testy, not good enough. Even if you do all those things(which
are
good practice-depending on what common sense means) with SP1, doing
them
with SP2 would make your system even more secure.

The reason I installed SP2 is because of the below. Any one of them
would
have been enough.

Bugfixes:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;811113

Features: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/features.mspx

Changes in Functionality:


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx

All these things make XP a better, more secure, more functional OS.
Ignoring this because you haven't yet had a problem is similar to not
switching from bias ply tires to radials because you haven't yet had a
flat tire. The only real question is not whether but when to install
SP2.

Dick Kistler




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004

ASSH***** ALERT!!!!
Deleting user.....Please wait.........

PLONK



"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
Also, you earlier said:

"I do not have and never will have SP2 installed"
You're using SP2 now.

You said: "I thought it should have been obvious from my comments that I
DID
have it at
one time"
You still do.

"I personally did not have any "problems" with SP2 I just had to disable
most of its "features" it serves no useful function to me or my clients,
which by the way are approaching 4 MILLION machine hours virus, spyware
and
hacker free"
Then said:
"Don/t bother. It gave me constant crashes"

You said:
"I am only a small cog in a huge worldwide conglomerate. All actions were
taken at the highest level since several nations security were involved."

"My employers are not supporting it"

Then said:
"No I installed it to see what kind of problems I can expect from my 200
clients."

200 clients is considered a "huge worldwide conglomerate" in your opinion?

You said:
"Just look of the dozens of posts that still appear here each day. I have
no
problems with SP1, I ran the Beta of SP2 on one of my computers but it
doesn't do anything for me. I have properly secured my computer. I do not
use IE, OE, Auto Update nor XP's firewall so why would I need it. I
selectively apply updates that apply to my own particular situation"

This ""huge worldwide conglomerate" and "my 200 clients" doesn't apply to
your particular situation?
LOL

Other references:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...om&btnG=Search

"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
"I do not use IE or OE"

You used OE to post this message. that makes you a liar, does it not?
From the headers of your message:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Which BTW, is SP2.

Perhaps you meant something other than ""I do not use IE or OE".

"Testy" wrote in message
...
That is your OPINION mine differs.
I do not use IE or OE
Other popup blockers are more effective
Windows firewall is inferior to what I use
I don't need Security Center to remind me to up my AV
Never have and never will use Auto updates
I am perfectly satisfied with my solutions.
Feel free to differ but it is only an OPINION not really a fact.
Have a nice day and happy computing.

Testy

"Dick Kistler" wrote in message
...
Testy wrote:
Secret? It is very simple.
First and foremost is Common Sense (which really is not that common)

I have a highly configurable hardware firewall.
I keep my Anti Virus up to date and do additional online scans on a
regular basis.
I do not open ANY UNKNOWN emails.
I do not download tons of "free" software.
I do not go to porn sites or use things like kazaa.
I stay completely aware of what is installed on my computer.
I manually monitor all network traffic.

Probably a couple of other things too but that is just off the top
of
my head.

Sorry, Testy, not good enough. Even if you do all those things(which
are
good practice-depending on what common sense means) with SP1, doing
them
with SP2 would make your system even more secure.

The reason I installed SP2 is because of the below. Any one of them
would
have been enough.

Bugfixes:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;811113

Features: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/features.mspx

Changes in Functionality:


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx

All these things make XP a better, more secure, more functional OS.
Ignoring this because you haven't yet had a problem is similar to not
switching from bias ply tires to radials because you haven't yet had
a
flat tire. The only real question is not whether but when to install
SP2.

Dick Kistler




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004






---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004

IDIOT alert!!!!!!
Searching.......
cannot distinguish "clients" from "employers"........

User found flipping burgers at his Main job.....

Deleting, please wait,,,,,,,,
User PLONKED


"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
Also, you earlier said:

"I do not have and never will have SP2 installed"
You're using SP2 now.

You said: "I thought it should have been obvious from my comments that I
DID
have it at
one time"
You still do.

"I personally did not have any "problems" with SP2 I just had to disable
most of its "features" it serves no useful function to me or my clients,
which by the way are approaching 4 MILLION machine hours virus, spyware
and
hacker free"
Then said:
"Don/t bother. It gave me constant crashes"

You said:
"I am only a small cog in a huge worldwide conglomerate. All actions were
taken at the highest level since several nations security were involved."

"My employers are not supporting it"

Then said:
"No I installed it to see what kind of problems I can expect from my 200
clients."

200 clients is considered a "huge worldwide conglomerate" in your opinion?

You said:
"Just look of the dozens of posts that still appear here each day. I have
no
problems with SP1, I ran the Beta of SP2 on one of my computers but it
doesn't do anything for me. I have properly secured my computer. I do not
use IE, OE, Auto Update nor XP's firewall so why would I need it. I
selectively apply updates that apply to my own particular situation"

This ""huge worldwide conglomerate" and "my 200 clients" doesn't apply to
your particular situation?
LOL

Other references:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...om&btnG=Search

"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
"I do not use IE or OE"

You used OE to post this message. that makes you a liar, does it not?
From the headers of your message:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Which BTW, is SP2.

Perhaps you meant something other than ""I do not use IE or OE".

"Testy" wrote in message
...
That is your OPINION mine differs.
I do not use IE or OE
Other popup blockers are more effective
Windows firewall is inferior to what I use
I don't need Security Center to remind me to up my AV
Never have and never will use Auto updates
I am perfectly satisfied with my solutions.
Feel free to differ but it is only an OPINION not really a fact.
Have a nice day and happy computing.

Testy

"Dick Kistler" wrote in message
...
Testy wrote:
Secret? It is very simple.
First and foremost is Common Sense (which really is not that common)

I have a highly configurable hardware firewall.
I keep my Anti Virus up to date and do additional online scans on a
regular basis.
I do not open ANY UNKNOWN emails.
I do not download tons of "free" software.
I do not go to porn sites or use things like kazaa.
I stay completely aware of what is installed on my computer.
I manually monitor all network traffic.

Probably a couple of other things too but that is just off the top
of
my head.

Sorry, Testy, not good enough. Even if you do all those things(which
are
good practice-depending on what common sense means) with SP1, doing
them
with SP2 would make your system even more secure.

The reason I installed SP2 is because of the below. Any one of them
would
have been enough.

Bugfixes:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;811113

Features: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/features.mspx

Changes in Functionality:


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx

All these things make XP a better, more secure, more functional OS.
Ignoring this because you haven't yet had a problem is similar to not
switching from bias ply tires to radials because you haven't yet had
a
flat tire. The only real question is not whether but when to install
SP2.

Dick Kistler




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004






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Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004

Pay no attention to Testy, anyone who has as much time on their hands to =
post here for hours on end regarding how bad Sp2 is, and his IT =
experience, is nothing short of a lying loser.

"Incognitus" wrote in message =
...
Also, you earlier said:
=20
"I do not have and never will have SP2 installed"
You're using SP2 now.
=20
You said: "I thought it should have been obvious from my comments that =
I DID
have it at
one time"
You still do.
=20
"I personally did not have any "problems" with SP2 I just had to =
disable
most of its "features" it serves no useful function to me or my =
clients,
which by the way are approaching 4 MILLION machine hours virus, =
spyware and
hacker free"
Then said:
"Don/t bother. It gave me constant crashes"
=20
You said:
"I am only a small cog in a huge worldwide conglomerate. All actions =
were
taken at the highest level since several nations security were =
involved."
=20
"My employers are not supporting it"
=20
Then said:
"No I installed it to see what kind of problems I can expect from my =
200
clients."
=20
200 clients is considered a "huge worldwide conglomerate" in your =
opinion?
=20
You said:
"Just look of the dozens of posts that still appear here each day. I =
have no
problems with SP1, I ran the Beta of SP2 on one of my computers but it
doesn't do anything for me. I have properly secured my computer. I do =
not
use IE, OE, Auto Update nor XP's firewall so why would I need it. I
selectively apply updates that apply to my own particular situation"
=20
This ""huge worldwide conglomerate" and "my 200 clients" doesn't apply =
to
your particular situation?
LOL
=20
Other references:
=
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3...Dfraudbuster@=
canoemail.com&btnG=3DSearch
=20
"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
"I do not use IE or OE"

You used OE to post this message. that makes you a liar, does it not?
From the headers of your message:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Which BTW, is SP2.

Perhaps you meant something other than ""I do not use IE or OE".

"Testy" wrote in message
...
That is your OPINION mine differs.
I do not use IE or OE
Other popup blockers are more effective
Windows firewall is inferior to what I use
I don't need Security Center to remind me to up my AV
Never have and never will use Auto updates
I am perfectly satisfied with my solutions.
Feel free to differ but it is only an OPINION not really a fact.
Have a nice day and happy computing.

Testy

"Dick Kistler" wrote in message
...
Testy wrote:
Secret? It is very simple.
First and foremost is Common Sense (which really is not that =
common)

I have a highly configurable hardware firewall.
I keep my Anti Virus up to date and do additional online scans =
on a
regular basis.
I do not open ANY UNKNOWN emails.
I do not download tons of "free" software.
I do not go to porn sites or use things like kazaa.
I stay completely aware of what is installed on my computer.
I manually monitor all network traffic.

Probably a couple of other things too but that is just off the =
top of
my head.

Sorry, Testy, not good enough. Even if you do all those =
things(which
are
good practice-depending on what common sense means) with SP1, =
doing
them
with SP2 would make your system even more secure.

The reason I installed SP2 is because of the below. Any one of =
them
would
have been enough.

Bugfixes:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;811113

Features: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/features.mspx

Changes in Functionality:


=
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...in/sp2chngs.m=
spx

All these things make XP a better, more secure, more functional =
OS.
Ignoring this because you haven't yet had a problem is similar to =
not
switching from bias ply tires to radials because you haven't yet =
had a
flat tire. The only real question is not whether but when to =
install
SP2.

Dick Kistler




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004

You lose.

"Testy" wrote in message
...
ASSH***** ALERT!!!!
Deleting user.....Please wait.........

PLONK



"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
Also, you earlier said:

"I do not have and never will have SP2 installed"
You're using SP2 now.

You said: "I thought it should have been obvious from my comments that I
DID
have it at
one time"
You still do.

"I personally did not have any "problems" with SP2 I just had to disable
most of its "features" it serves no useful function to me or my clients,
which by the way are approaching 4 MILLION machine hours virus, spyware
and
hacker free"
Then said:
"Don/t bother. It gave me constant crashes"

You said:
"I am only a small cog in a huge worldwide conglomerate. All actions
were
taken at the highest level since several nations security were
involved."

"My employers are not supporting it"

Then said:
"No I installed it to see what kind of problems I can expect from my 200
clients."

200 clients is considered a "huge worldwide conglomerate" in your
opinion?

You said:
"Just look of the dozens of posts that still appear here each day. I
have
no
problems with SP1, I ran the Beta of SP2 on one of my computers but it
doesn't do anything for me. I have properly secured my computer. I do
not
use IE, OE, Auto Update nor XP's firewall so why would I need it. I
selectively apply updates that apply to my own particular situation"

This ""huge worldwide conglomerate" and "my 200 clients" doesn't apply
to
your particular situation?
LOL

Other references:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...om&btnG=Search

"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
"I do not use IE or OE"

You used OE to post this message. that makes you a liar, does it not?
From the headers of your message:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Which BTW, is SP2.

Perhaps you meant something other than ""I do not use IE or OE".

"Testy" wrote in message
...
That is your OPINION mine differs.
I do not use IE or OE
Other popup blockers are more effective
Windows firewall is inferior to what I use
I don't need Security Center to remind me to up my AV
Never have and never will use Auto updates
I am perfectly satisfied with my solutions.
Feel free to differ but it is only an OPINION not really a fact.
Have a nice day and happy computing.

Testy

"Dick Kistler" wrote in message
...
Testy wrote:
Secret? It is very simple.
First and foremost is Common Sense (which really is not that
common)

I have a highly configurable hardware firewall.
I keep my Anti Virus up to date and do additional online scans on
a
regular basis.
I do not open ANY UNKNOWN emails.
I do not download tons of "free" software.
I do not go to porn sites or use things like kazaa.
I stay completely aware of what is installed on my computer.
I manually monitor all network traffic.

Probably a couple of other things too but that is just off the top
of
my head.

Sorry, Testy, not good enough. Even if you do all those
things(which
are
good practice-depending on what common sense means) with SP1, doing
them
with SP2 would make your system even more secure.

The reason I installed SP2 is because of the below. Any one of them
would
have been enough.

Bugfixes:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;811113

Features: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/features.mspx

Changes in Functionality:



http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx

All these things make XP a better, more secure, more functional OS.
Ignoring this because you haven't yet had a problem is similar to
not
switching from bias ply tires to radials because you haven't yet
had
a
flat tire. The only real question is not whether but when to
install
SP2.

Dick Kistler




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004






---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004

You lose.

"Testy" wrote in message
...
IDIOT alert!!!!!!
Searching.......
cannot distinguish "clients" from "employers"........

User found flipping burgers at his Main job.....

Deleting, please wait,,,,,,,,
User PLONKED


"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
Also, you earlier said:

"I do not have and never will have SP2 installed"
You're using SP2 now.

You said: "I thought it should have been obvious from my comments that I
DID
have it at
one time"
You still do.

"I personally did not have any "problems" with SP2 I just had to disable
most of its "features" it serves no useful function to me or my clients,
which by the way are approaching 4 MILLION machine hours virus, spyware
and
hacker free"
Then said:
"Don/t bother. It gave me constant crashes"

You said:
"I am only a small cog in a huge worldwide conglomerate. All actions
were
taken at the highest level since several nations security were
involved."

"My employers are not supporting it"

Then said:
"No I installed it to see what kind of problems I can expect from my 200
clients."

200 clients is considered a "huge worldwide conglomerate" in your
opinion?

You said:
"Just look of the dozens of posts that still appear here each day. I
have
no
problems with SP1, I ran the Beta of SP2 on one of my computers but it
doesn't do anything for me. I have properly secured my computer. I do
not
use IE, OE, Auto Update nor XP's firewall so why would I need it. I
selectively apply updates that apply to my own particular situation"

This ""huge worldwide conglomerate" and "my 200 clients" doesn't apply
to
your particular situation?
LOL

Other references:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...om&btnG=Search

"Incognitus" wrote in message
...
"I do not use IE or OE"

You used OE to post this message. that makes you a liar, does it not?
From the headers of your message:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Which BTW, is SP2.

Perhaps you meant something other than ""I do not use IE or OE".

"Testy" wrote in message
...
That is your OPINION mine differs.
I do not use IE or OE
Other popup blockers are more effective
Windows firewall is inferior to what I use
I don't need Security Center to remind me to up my AV
Never have and never will use Auto updates
I am perfectly satisfied with my solutions.
Feel free to differ but it is only an OPINION not really a fact.
Have a nice day and happy computing.

Testy

"Dick Kistler" wrote in message
...
Testy wrote:
Secret? It is very simple.
First and foremost is Common Sense (which really is not that
common)

I have a highly configurable hardware firewall.
I keep my Anti Virus up to date and do additional online scans on
a
regular basis.
I do not open ANY UNKNOWN emails.
I do not download tons of "free" software.
I do not go to porn sites or use things like kazaa.
I stay completely aware of what is installed on my computer.
I manually monitor all network traffic.

Probably a couple of other things too but that is just off the top
of
my head.

Sorry, Testy, not good enough. Even if you do all those
things(which
are
good practice-depending on what common sense means) with SP1, doing
them
with SP2 would make your system even more secure.

The reason I installed SP2 is because of the below. Any one of them
would
have been enough.

Bugfixes:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;811113

Features: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/features.mspx

Changes in Functionality:



http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx

All these things make XP a better, more secure, more functional OS.
Ignoring this because you haven't yet had a problem is similar to
not
switching from bias ply tires to radials because you haven't yet
had
a
flat tire. The only real question is not whether but when to
install
SP2.

Dick Kistler




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004






---
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Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004