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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is
never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
don't bother with sp2 untill the holes are fixed. and by
the way, norton or any other firewall is better than the sp2 firewall. -----Original Message----- I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
I hear norton won't work after you upgrade to SP2, along
with a lot of other progs...if I was you I would hold off a while on that until they get it all fixed up...but yes, it's probably norton blocking it...sounds that way to me... -----Original Message----- I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
Hi Lorena:
My understanding: (1) if your auto-update is set for 03:00 and you're not on, you'll not get the update. (Set the time for some time when you're likely to be on-line) (2) The remote computer trying to contact you is extremely unlikely to be Microsoft.com trying to pass you the update. Keep the firewall up. (3) According to Microsoft.com:- "If you have Automatic Updates turned on, you don't need to take any further action for SP2 to be downloaded to your computer while you are connected to the Internet. Depending on how long and how often you are connected to the Internet, it may take awhile before SP2 is fully downloaded. Once SP2 is completely downloaded from the Internet, you will be notified that it is ready to be installed on your computer." And also:- "Automatic Updates is the only way to download SP2 from Windows Update at this time. Other methods to install SP2 will be available soon." Looks like if you want to download SP2 manually, you're in for a wait - alternatively, stay up till 3 am! Nigel. -----Original Message----- I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
SP2 is available for downloading at Microsoft downloads.
Norton software is useless. "Lorena" wrote in message ... I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
You have to turn off Norton to run new windows update and
if you really want sp2 check Download updates but let me install. I have cable (may make a difference) but after checked Download updates, custom install I just let it sit at the site and icon poped up on right taskbar, the download of SP2. Although you might want to listen to Harry I fail to see any gains with SP2 and will ghost back to SP1 with Norton NIS. Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
A-men!
-----Original Message----- don't bother with sp2 untill the holes are fixed. and by the way, norton or any other firewall is better than the sp2 firewall. -----Original Message----- I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . . |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
not true.
NAV works fine. If NAv2003 is installed after SP2 there is a SYS driver problem. The error reporting system guiges you to screen that say 1. Run liveupdate twice. 2. Renew your AV license. The driver does not down load and so NAV2003 status is questionable. (One could assume thar NAV2001-2003 would be in the same boat. I turned off NAV2003 auto Protect until I get a reason and / or fix. But NAV2003 on pre Sp2 installs are running fine after SP2. Nav2004 has been patches and two liveupdates will turn on the green. NAV2005 will release in Sept. I am running WFW and a 3rd party with no prooblems. SJ -----Original Message----- I hear norton won't work after you upgrade to SP2, along with a lot of other progs...if I was you I would hold off a while on that until they get it all fixed up...but yes, it's probably norton blocking it...sounds that way to me... -----Original Message----- I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . . |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
What do you recommend to use Jerry?
-----Original Message----- SP2 is available for downloading at Microsoft downloads. Norton software is useless. "Lorena" wrote in message ... I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
So run Norton's Firewall.
Don't borther if, your hardware is old. your disk drive is old or super loaded with data and older programs. you don't have a GB of free space. Your disk is not format with NTFS with a 4k or 8k cluster size. you have a laptop and known nothing about it. your running a handmedown OS without the CD. you have downloaded and updated anything on the orginal XP install. You are jealous of others that have life so much easier than you. But, if you are one of the other 92,000,000 users things will work out fine. SJ -----Original Message----- don't bother with sp2 untill the holes are fixed. and by the way, norton or any other firewall is better than the sp2 firewall. -----Original Message----- I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . . |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??/What I'd Do Here
Lorena and Inquisition--
Norton from 2005 back through 2003 can be made compatible with SP2. I tested it many times, installing and uninstalling SP2 and Norton versions. But the way Norton has chosen to make an update patch available for XP SP2 via only Norton Live Update is consumately stupid--and Norton has done its best to weasle to people that anything they have older than a 2004 version is "obsolete" to use their choice of words when they run an "analysis" on their site. A lot of people at their Cupertino, California Springfield, Orgegon, and Newport News, Virginia offices must be running around with long noses like the Disney character Pinocchio. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...12843?v=glance First I'd run Norton Live Update to get the Norton WMI update for SP2 installed so Norton firewall, NIS, NSW, or NAV will be compatible with SP2. service.symantec.com/xpinfo http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/sp2...src=ivr_na_con Then I'd run just one software firewall, and Norton's firewall may have more capability than the Windows Firewall in SP2 depending on the version. Norton will say things like you are obsolete if you don't have 2004 or that its patch won't allow the Windows Security Center to recognize any version older than 2002. They want to sell their 2005 versions that will be released soon. The last box on a Norton 2005 product tells you to turn off the Windows Firewall if you are running NPF, NIS, or the small piece of code that Norton is putting in NAV 2005 as "a worm blocker" from their firewall. In the first place the Windows Security Center does very little but tells you your firewall is on and your AV is on. Hardly anyone needs it for that. It also links you to technet or a MS security page, but your browser will do that as well: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/default.mspx As far as holes, there are many many more in Windows XP RTM (out of the box) and Windows XP SP1 out of the box. That's one of the driving reasons for SP2. As far as Norton compatibility, I tested from 2005 back through 2003 and they all can work with SP2. There are two common incompatibility issues I noticed without the WMI patch--Live Update which you don't really need except that Norton refuses npow to deliver the SP2 patch any other way (which is dumb of them--they are trying to twist your arm to buy a new version)--but Beta sites are making it available if you search around, and that Norton's/Symantec's Integrator or status screen that it puts up can freeze and the two Norton KBs that fix that some of the time a Error: "LU1812: An update failed to install. A program that was part of this update failed when it ran. This update was not applied." http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT... uild=Symantec and this one that applies to any version (Norton has the awkward little habit of only making a KB available for one version or year that will work on others, but MSFT has been known to do that with MSKBs as well but not nearly as often) Error: "Norton Integrator could not initialize the current frame class . . . " when opening Norton SystemWorks http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...= bar_sch_nam System Status screen displays "Refreshing" after opening Norton AntiVirus 2003 http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...= bar_sch_nam For help with Windows Update or another way to download SP2 but it's larger: What's New on Windows Update http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...snewforwu.mspx How To Get Windows XP SP2 http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.aspx If Live Update is giving you too many problems, I'd just go on and get the Network download here if you have broadband: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en I should note that many other antivirus and software firewall products are not having SP2 incompatibilities at all, and they are not trying to make it more difficult to get their updates by only delivering them in a way (Live Update) that you may not be able to use once you download SP2 unless you get the WMI from a source other than Symantec. This has caused a number of people to opt to switch from Norton or Symantec whether they have home, small business or enterprise accounts. If there were no Windows Operating System, than Norton and Symantec would dry up quickly. They do make Norton and Symantec for Apple Mac products, but those don't have a lot of the world market percentage wise. As it is now, they are looking over their big lumbering shoulders, because Microsoft Antivirus is already starting to manufacture its prodcut. Details of Microsoft antivirus software leak out (CNET News) http://news.com.com/Details+of+Micro...l?tag=nefd.top Best, Chad Harris ________________________________________ "Lorena" wrote in message ... I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. |
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Norton blocking SP2 download ??
Thanks Nigel, and all others who helped me out here.
Lorena "Nigel Peters" wrote: Hi Lorena: My understanding: (1) if your auto-update is set for 03:00 and you're not on, you'll not get the update. (Set the time for some time when you're likely to be on-line) (2) The remote computer trying to contact you is extremely unlikely to be Microsoft.com trying to pass you the update. Keep the firewall up. (3) According to Microsoft.com:- "If you have Automatic Updates turned on, you don't need to take any further action for SP2 to be downloaded to your computer while you are connected to the Internet. Depending on how long and how often you are connected to the Internet, it may take awhile before SP2 is fully downloaded. Once SP2 is completely downloaded from the Internet, you will be notified that it is ready to be installed on your computer." And also:- "Automatic Updates is the only way to download SP2 from Windows Update at this time. Other methods to install SP2 will be available soon." Looks like if you want to download SP2 manually, you're in for a wait - alternatively, stay up till 3 am! Nigel. -----Original Message----- I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . |
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Nigel--
I can't speak statistically, but I know a number of them that like Etrust and CA products, and use them. http://www.my-etrust.com/ They are often running specials. Many people like Kapersky and Trend products, and there are a number of others that are SP2 compatible and work just as well if not better than Norton/Symantec and are less buggy. AGV has a free product you can try. http://www.kaspersky.com/ http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/enterprise.htm http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/ Best, Chad Harris ______________________________ http://antivirus.about.com/gi/dynami...%2Fwww.cai.com "Nigel Peters" wrote in message ... I'd like to know what A/V and F/W software is used at the offices of Microsoft.com. If none, what do their employees use at home? And our survey said......? Nigel -----Original Message----- What do you recommend to use Jerry? -----Original Message----- SP2 is available for downloading at Microsoft downloads. Norton software is useless. "Lorena" wrote in message news:34726809-FDDF-4FFF-B038- ... I have Automatic Updates turned ON, it is set for 03:00. My computer is never on at this time of night. I still have not received the SP2 download, but twice today I have received a Norton Alert High Risk ''A remote system is trying to access your computer'' Block [recommended] click OK. I have never seen that alert before, and was wondering if this was Windows trying to send the update, but Norton is blocking it. My Norton Firewall is set to customized default of High: Block everything until you allow it. Would it be that at 03:00 Norton would allow Windows to access for auto updates but not at any other time, so is blocking it from coming through during the day ?? Should I switch off my Norton Firewall for the time being and just use the Windows Firewall [which is off as it conflicts with Norton]. ? Thanks for any help. . . |
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