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I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

Tim w wrote:

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Some OS came pre-installed on the notebook. What was it? What was the
max screen resolution you had under that OS?

You did not specify which brand and model of netbook. Those details
would let others look up the native resolution of the screen to see what
resolution should be used.

On 20/01/2015 11:51, VanguardLH wrote:
Tim w wrote:

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Some OS came pre-installed on the notebook. What was it? What was the
max screen resolution you had under that OS?

You did not specify which brand and model of netbook. Those details
would let others look up the native resolution of the screen to see what
resolution should be used.

The native resolution is 1024x600.

Hi, Tim.

When Win8 arrived a couple of years ago, I installed it on my "big rig" with
its old 17" LCD monitor. Then I downloaded another copy (with another
Product Key) to my Acer netbook with its 1024 x 600 screen. Win8 itself
installed easily, as I recall. But then, like you, I ran into roadblocks in
trying to install almost anything else. And some Win8 apps - like the
Microsoft Store, which is the gateway to nearly everything else - would not
even start because of the low resolution.

The temporary solution was to hook the monitor's cable to the netbook's VGA
outlet. (First time I ever ran a computer with two displays, but it didn't
take long to get used to that.) I could use the 1280 x 1024 screen to run
the Store to download and install my most-used apps onto the netbook,
including Windows Media Center in Win8.1. With the "big" monitor unplugged,
many of the Win8 apps still won't run, but many will. With my Pinnacle USB
TV Pro plugged in (with its own little antenna) I can even watch TV on the
netbook. The Windows Mail app in Win8 does not interest me, so I installed
WLM 2012 and use that often. I've downloaded several Gutenberg Project
books and read them online on the netbook; a small USB mouse helps with
this.

Just plug in a "big" monitor to install Win8/8.1 and the apps you want.
Then you can unplug and use MANY (not all) of those apps wherever you carry
the netbook.

It works for my. YMMV, of course. ;)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331) in Win8.1 Pro w/Media Center


"Tim w" wrote in message ...

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

On 1/20/2015 4:38 AM, Tim w wrote:
I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

This is almost certainly a video driver issue. Does your netbook have
Windows 8 drivers? I'm also curious as to what you mean by your apps not
starting. If you can launch them, meaning that you see their icon and
click on it, one reason they might not run is that there is a problem
with the netbook's compatibility with Windows. Why not check with the
manufacturer to see what they say about it?
--
best regards,

Neil

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:38:42 +0000, Tim w wrote:

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

Several modern OS systems can provide a virtual screen larger that the
physical screen so you can scroll around to see the rest of oversized
windows - I use such a facility on my netbook which has the same
resolution.

On 20/01/2015 15:41, ray carter wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:38:42 +0000, Tim w wrote:

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

Several modern OS systems can provide a virtual screen larger that the
physical screen so you can scroll around to see the rest of oversized
windows - I use such a facility on my netbook which has the same
resolution.

But not windows it seems?

On 20/01/2015 15:31, Neil wrote:
On 1/20/2015 4:38 AM, Tim w wrote:
I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

This is almost certainly a video driver issue. Does your netbook have
Windows 8 drivers? I'm also curious as to what you mean by your apps not
starting. If you can launch them, meaning that you see their icon and
click on it, one reason they might not run is that there is a problem
with the netbook's compatibility with Windows. Why not check with the
manufacturer to see what they say about it?

I don't think so. the screen doesn't have enough physical divisions in
it afaict. When I click on an app tile I get a message saying This App
Cannot Open and the reason given is Screen Resolution. i will have a
further search for drivers anyway.

It's a rebranded MSI Wind - very common.

tim W

On 20/01/2015 09:38, Tim w wrote:
I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

I found an answer. A regedit thing will trick the OS into thinking I
have a bigger screen. I will try it tomorrow:
http://liliputing.com/2011/09/how-to...r-netbook.html

Tim W

On 20/01/2015 21:54, Tim w wrote:
On 20/01/2015 09:38, Tim w wrote:
I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

I found an answer. A regedit thing will trick the OS into thinking I
have a bigger screen. I will try it tomorrow:
http://liliputing.com/2011/09/how-to...r-netbook.html


I tried it - it works but it distorts the display, so it isn't good.
Square tiles and round icons all look squashed.

Tim W

"Tim w" escreveu na mensagem ...

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600 and
almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices so
I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

Toshiba has a tablet model with 7" and 1024x600 resolution. I suppose it is
to be be used with metro interface.
That's smaller than a netbook but has touch screen to work with fingers or
stylus. It has only 1 GB RAM and latest Atom processor.
I think Windows 8.1 in older netbooks runs slowly. Microsoft recommends at
least 2 GB RAM.

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:31:58 +0000, Tim w wrote:

On 20/01/2015 15:41, ray carter wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:38:42 +0000, Tim w wrote:

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

Several modern OS systems can provide a virtual screen larger that the
physical screen so you can scroll around to see the rest of oversized
windows - I use such a facility on my netbook which has the same
resolution.

But not windows it seems?

It would be a third party app, or really a driver, and not part of the
Windows OS itself.

I didn't find such a beast when I looked for it a year or so ago - but
that doesn't prove much...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:31:58 +0000, Tim w wrote:

On 20/01/2015 15:41, ray carter wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:38:42 +0000, Tim w wrote:

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W
Several modern OS systems can provide a virtual screen larger that the
physical screen so you can scroll around to see the rest of oversized
windows - I use such a facility on my netbook which has the same
resolution.

But not windows it seems?

It would be a third party app, or really a driver, and not part of the
Windows OS itself.

I didn't find such a beast when I looked for it a year or so ago - but
that doesn't prove much...


The last hardware offering such a driver, was an
SIS chipset. It offered pan and scan functionality,
allowing a small screen computer to emulate a
large screen device. When the cursor hits the edge of
the screen, a new section of screen becomes visible.

This would not be all that compatible with Windows 8, because
of the swiping and wiping we need to do, wouldn't
work all that well with a pan and scan driver. It
would be a user interface nightmare.

Paul

Joe nobody wrote:


"Tim w" escreveu na mensagem ...

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an
old netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x
600 and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

Toshiba has a tablet model with 7" and 1024x600 resolution. I suppose it
is to be be used with metro interface.
That's smaller than a netbook but has touch screen to work with fingers
or stylus. It has only 1 GB RAM and latest Atom processor.
I think Windows 8.1 in older netbooks runs slowly. Microsoft recommends
at least 2 GB RAM.

And just for the record, many people have been reaming the
tablet manufacturer for using 1GB of RAM with those. The
processor from Intel costs $17, and to protect their
more lucrative CPU market, Intel restricts how much
RAM the CPU can access. (In other words, the tablet
maker used as much RAM as the CPU supports.) Hardware wise,
you could make a DIMM with double the memory, but the
address space in the CPU prevents that from working.
So if you buy a computer for $100, with a $17 Intel CPU inside,
1GB of RAM is the max the hardware allows. In addition, the
memory bus is 32 bits wide (slower). It isn't even 64 bits wide
like a traditional memory bus. But the CPU is $17, to compete
with ARM processor sales.

Intel are the Kings of market segmentation. If they
offer you a cheap piece of hardware, you can be assured
you'll pay for your savings, in terms of the features
offered.

In the same CPU family, they also make 2GB max processors,
and processors with 64 bit busses or 2x64 bit memory busses.
All with prices to match. Suddenly, you go from a $17
processor, to a $150 processor. They're using the memory
interface as a means to "gut" the hardware design.

Windows can run on 1GB of RAM. It still works. Windows 8
can shrink memory usage to 350MB (I've tested this).
This leaves 650MB for a program to run. But this is
hardly an ideal situation. When you spend your $100 for
a Walmart Black Friday tablet, its worth almost
nothing to you. So you got your money's worth.
I'm sure it plays movies just fine, which is what
people use those for. It's not going to be the best
for every usage situation. And Intel has seen to it,
that ever-so-slightly better designs, will have
double the retail price.

Paul

On 2015-01-20 04:38, Tim w wrote:

I am testing win 8.1 for myself and have done a clean install on an old
netbook. All working fine except that the netbook screen is 1024 x 600
and almost all the apps require 1024 x 760 so they just won't start.

Most of them I wouldn't use anyway but I might have looked at the Mail
program and I often use the calculator. Is there a way of fixing this?
Pretty sure I heard that Win8 is designed for use on different devices
so I presume it works on a little tablet screen, no?

Tim W

I'm late to the party but this is hilarious; well done MS! And what the
hell do you need a full screen calculator for?! Just use the standard
one that runs on the desktop, it's way more complete too. Sorry, I don't
want to bash you for using it, it's just that the calculator is the one
thing I -never- thought someone would want to run full screen, lol.

Best Regards.

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