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  #31  
Old June 4th 15, 09:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Andy wrote:
I put my Macrium rescue media on a pendrive.

More reliable and easier than CD/DVD.
ANdy


That depends on how many pen drives you own.

If the function of the storage is never-changing,
then optical media works just as well.

In the case of the OP in this thread, a USB flash key
is an easy substitute for Windows File Sharing. For when
data transfer just has to work, and you don't want to
spend time fighting with the computer to get a file
from one place to another. My track record on
first-time-success with File Sharing isn't that good - I've
had Linux LiveCDs where they "forgot" to include the SAMBA
client, and I had to figure that out for myself, as to
why it would not work. And Windows to Windows throws
the odd wobbly.

Paul


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  #32  
Old June 5th 15, 05:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:



Hello Paul,

I was able to copy the ISO file to the Patriot
but when I tried to save it to the HD on the 8500
it had every other drive except C: but also Image
Burn.

What would you recommend for CD's or DVD to be used?


Also, is there a secure download of a MP4 file you
can point me to?

Thanks,
Robert
  #33  
Old June 5th 15, 08:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Mark Twain wrote:

Hello Paul,

I was able to copy the ISO file to the Patriot
but when I tried to save it to the HD on the 8500
it had every other drive except C: but also Image
Burn.

What would you recommend for CD's or DVD to be used?


Also, is there a secure download of a MP4 file you
can point me to?

Thanks,
Robert


You will recollect in a previous posting, we discussed
Verbatim media (CD and DVD). Much of which could be
Ritek branded discs. There were small "cake boxes" of
discs. My least preferred brand would be Memorex.

As for an MP4 file, that could have come from just
about anywhere. Do you mean that you want to privately
host one ? Or download one that someone else made ?

Some sites carry samples, but the content would be
quite boring. You download stuff like this, to see if
your favorite media player barfs when it plays one.
In fact, VLC crashed while playing one of these!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201549

Paul
  #34  
Old June 5th 15, 09:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 12:13:14 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Mark Twain wrote:

Hello Paul,

I was able to copy the ISO file to the Patriot
but when I tried to save it to the HD on the 8500
it had every other drive except C: but also Image
Burn.

What would you recommend for CD's or DVD to be used?


Also, is there a secure download of a MP4 file you
can point me to?

Thanks,
Robert


You will recollect in a previous posting, we discussed
Verbatim media (CD and DVD). Much of which could be
Ritek branded discs. There were small "cake boxes" of
discs. My least preferred brand would be Memorex.

As for an MP4 file, that could have come from just
about anywhere. Do you mean that you want to privately
host one ? Or download one that someone else made ?

Some sites carry samples, but the content would be
quite boring. You download stuff like this, to see if
your favorite media player barfs when it plays one.
In fact, VLC crashed while playing one of these!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201549

Paul


Hello Paul,

Hmmm it doesn't sound like a good option. I doubt a MP4
file would help in any case. I looked up at upgrading
the Windows Media Player and plug ins but it ended up
with having to buy a set of plug ins which I didn't do.

They had more than one kind from more than one company
so I really didn't know what to choose. I did see NVidia
there.

Thanks,
Robert
  #35  
Old June 5th 15, 10:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 1:41:09 AM UTC-7, Mark Twain wrote:
On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 12:13:14 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Mark Twain wrote:

Hello Paul,

I was able to copy the ISO file to the Patriot
but when I tried to save it to the HD on the 8500
it had every other drive except C: but also Image
Burn.

What would you recommend for CD's or DVD to be used?


Also, is there a secure download of a MP4 file you
can point me to?

Thanks,
Robert


You will recollect in a previous posting, we discussed
Verbatim media (CD and DVD). Much of which could be
Ritek branded discs. There were small "cake boxes" of
discs. My least preferred brand would be Memorex.

As for an MP4 file, that could have come from just
about anywhere. Do you mean that you want to privately
host one ? Or download one that someone else made ?

Some sites carry samples, but the content would be
quite boring. You download stuff like this, to see if
your favorite media player barfs when it plays one.
In fact, VLC crashed while playing one of these!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201549

Paul


Hello Paul,

Hmmm it doesn't sound like a good option. I doubt a MP4
file would help in any case. I looked up at upgrading
the Windows Media Player and plug ins but it ended up
with having to buy a set of plug ins which I didn't do.

They had more than one kind from more than one company
so I really didn't know what to choose. I did see NVidia
there.

Thanks,
Robert



Also this popped up but I didn't do anything. Should I go
ahead and upgrade?

http://i61.tinypic.com/2db33fo.jpg

Thanks,
Robert
  #36  
Old June 5th 15, 06:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Mark Twain wrote:

Also this popped up but I didn't do anything. Should I go
ahead and upgrade?

http://i61.tinypic.com/2db33fo.jpg

Thanks,
Robert


The Windows Update associated with that is KB3035583.
These are the files that got dumped into your system.
Some of what the code does, is it incorporates
the Upgrade Assistant (code that checks your system
hardware and software are compatible). Any programs
not compatible, the Assistant will list them. But
the design of this code isn't all that friendly, as
the Upgrade Assistant should run first, and indicate
whether installing Windows 10 is even an option.
Like, on your 8200, if your 8200 was running Windows 7
right now (which it could), it wouldn't be eligible
for Windows 10 because some CPU support stuff is
missing.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583

File Information (sample)

File name File size
Config.xml 17,886
Gwxgc.exe 21,504
Gwx.exe 476,160
Gwxconfigmanager.exe 667,136
Gwxui.dll 526,848
Gwxux.exe 401,408
Gwxuxworker.exe 360,240
Gwx.exe 406,528

GWX is Genuine Windows eXperience. Something in those files,
checks your machine for upgrade status. It also
consults the Windows Experience Index, and if a
WEI benchmark has never been run, the nag screen
might not appear.

*******

OK, so the deal is, for a period of one year starting
on July 29, you can download for *free* a copy of
Windows 10 RTM, to "upgrade" the computer to Windows 10
from Windows 7.

The dialog you're seeing, allows you to "reserve" your
download now, and a few days after July 29, the upgrade
will roll in. You would see the machine do a 3.5GB
download, and there should be a 3.5GB file sitting
on the computer at some point.

The computer is not supposed to install that, until
you approve.

*******

Your next question should be "why do I need this".

The answer is, you don't.

The PC continues to run Win7 with security
updates until 2020. The security updates are
the Extended Support.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle

Client Latest update End of End of
operating or Service mainstream extended
systems Pack support support
------- ---- ------- -------

Windows 7 Service Pack 1 January 13, 2015 January 14, 2020

Windows 10 has a slightly different interface than Windows 7,
so "the deck chairs have been moved around". Media Center
(for recording TV programs with a tuner card) is gone.
You will have access to XBOX Music and App Store,
as a means to dispose of your disposable income.

I have a copy of the preview of Windows 10 running
on the test computer, and I don't have a strong reason
to migrate to it. I have three machines that could
take the upgrade, one machine doesn't have a strong
enough CPU for it, and the remaining two machines,
I just don't get enough new features to be interested.

*******

To remove the nagging interface, you can try:

1) Remove KB3035583 that has just been installed.
2) In Windows Update, KB3035583 will then "come back".
Highlight the item and select "Hide" so you don't
install the nag a second time.

For some people, that's enough to make it go away.

I have a fresh Win7 SP1 test install on the test
computer right now, all patched up to date, KB3035583
installed too, and I can't get the nag to appear,
and I've even been doing the registry hack. Apparently,
if the Win7 SP1 OS doesn't have a license key, it
won't nag you :-)

Paul
  #37  
Old June 6th 15, 06:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 3:34:42 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
I put my Macrium rescue media on a pendrive.

More reliable and easier than CD/DVD.
ANdy


That depends on how many pen drives you own.

If the function of the storage is never-changing,
then optical media works just as well.

In the case of the OP in this thread, a USB flash key
is an easy substitute for Windows File Sharing. For when
data transfer just has to work, and you don't want to
spend time fighting with the computer to get a file
from one place to another. My track record on
first-time-success with File Sharing isn't that good - I've
had Linux LiveCDs where they "forgot" to include the SAMBA
client, and I had to figure that out for myself, as to
why it would not work. And Windows to Windows throws
the odd wobbly.

Paul


I have a Dell Dimension 8200 (Seagate Barracuda 7200 HD 160GB)
with XP, SP3, Spywareblaster, Avast, Malwarebytes, Malwarebytes
Anti-Exploit and Windows Firewall.

I'm trying to create a bootable rescue disk with Macrium but I
seem to be doing something wrong.

In the first place I had to download a newer version of Macrium.

Paul,

I did not read all the posts, but what does file sharing have to do with
making a rescue disk ?

My experience with CDs and DVDs are that they fail much more often than pen drives.

Just a small scratch can render them useless.

That is probably due to no moving parts.

Have a great weekend. :-)

Andy
  #38  
Old June 6th 15, 09:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Andy wrote:
On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 3:34:42 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
I put my Macrium rescue media on a pendrive.

More reliable and easier than CD/DVD.
ANdy

That depends on how many pen drives you own.

If the function of the storage is never-changing,
then optical media works just as well.

In the case of the OP in this thread, a USB flash key
is an easy substitute for Windows File Sharing. For when
data transfer just has to work, and you don't want to
spend time fighting with the computer to get a file
from one place to another. My track record on
first-time-success with File Sharing isn't that good - I've
had Linux LiveCDs where they "forgot" to include the SAMBA
client, and I had to figure that out for myself, as to
why it would not work. And Windows to Windows throws
the odd wobbly.

Paul


I have a Dell Dimension 8200 (Seagate Barracuda 7200 HD 160GB)
with XP, SP3, Spywareblaster, Avast, Malwarebytes, Malwarebytes
Anti-Exploit and Windows Firewall.

I'm trying to create a bootable rescue disk with Macrium but I
seem to be doing something wrong.

In the first place I had to download a newer version of Macrium.

Paul,

I did not read all the posts, but what does file sharing have to do with
making a rescue disk ?

My experience with CDs and DVDs are that they fail much more often than pen drives.

Just a small scratch can render them useless.

That is probably due to no moving parts.

Have a great weekend. :-)

Andy


There are two computers. One has a working optical drive.
The other one has the copy of Macrium, which will be
preparing rescue.iso. A means is needed to move the
rescue.iso file from one machine to the other. Rather than
use file sharing, a USB key is being used to move the file
to the other machine. Then, the working optical burner can
make the rescue media.

It would probably take a thread with a 100 posts in it,
to get file sharing working. One machine is a RAMBUS era
P4 WinXP machine, the other an i7 machine running Windows 7.
Sure, it's all easy to set up, if you've done it before.
I had some amount of trouble the first time I set up
file sharing, but it's getting easier as time goes by.

I used to have trouble with CDs, but the media these days
seems to be a bit better. Haven't had a case of bitrot in
at least five years. Back in the day, I had some CDRW
that the discs became "transparent". Which is a bad sign.

Paul
  #39  
Old June 6th 15, 10:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Hello Paul,

I ordered the Verbatim CD-RW disks

Not sure how to remove nag I didn't
install anything. When I right click
the nag it give me this:

Get Windows 10
Reserve your free upgrade
Go to Windows update
Get to know Windows 10

I selected Go to Windows Update and
this is what it gave me:

http://i61.tinypic.com/2n1xnwo.jpg

Also, in passing would you know if AdTrack
is safe to download from? I tried looking them
up but all I found was AdTrack King and negative
comments.

Thanks,
Robert

  #40  
Old June 6th 15, 11:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Video type tests

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
Some sites carry samples, but the content would be
quite boring. You download stuff like this, to see if
your favorite media player barfs when it plays one.
In fact, VLC crashed while playing one of these!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201549

Paul


Interesting; my VLC (2.0.5 Twoflower) played all of them, albeit with an
unconscionable delay (I'd have thought it had crashed if I hadn't known
from previous experience that VLC does this; I was still starting to
wonder though) on the 3GPP2 one. (I've stopped letting VLC update on
this machine - the last two [one was Pratchett, or something like that]
resulted in something that wouldn't play some files that 2.0.5 would.)
--
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  #41  
Old June 6th 15, 07:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Mark Twain wrote:
Hello Paul,

I ordered the Verbatim CD-RW disks

Not sure how to remove nag I didn't
install anything. When I right click
the nag it give me this:

Get Windows 10
Reserve your free upgrade
Go to Windows update
Get to know Windows 10

I selected Go to Windows Update and
this is what it gave me:

http://i61.tinypic.com/2n1xnwo.jpg

Also, in passing would you know if AdTrack
is safe to download from? I tried looking them
up but all I found was AdTrack King and negative
comments.

Thanks,
Robert


OK, first of all, I know you're on the Dimension 8500 (i7)
machine, because people on WinXP will not get that nag.

The nag is an "upgrade to Windows 10" nag screen. It attempts
to convince you to change from Windows 7 to Windows 10. The
menus on your machine would change if you did that, and I don't
need you "getting lost" in there :-) Such an update would likely
bust a bunch of stuff. It's an uphill struggle to do such
an upgrade.

*******

So, how to remove the nag ?

It would be nice if the nag screen had a simple "stop bugging me"
choice on it, but this is Microsoft we're talking about. They're not
going to do something simple like that.

The following doesn't guarantee the nag will go away, but
it's the best recipe I have right now.

1) Open Windows Update to it's main screen. To do that, look
for Windows Update in the Control Panel section.

2) Look in the "history of installed updates". There should be
a history of the Windows Update files already installed. The list
of options on the left, should have an item displaying history. We
don't need to scan for new updates. The machine has already
installed KB3035583, and looking in the history is to verity
that '583 is actually in the machine right now. Just based on
symptoms (nag screen), it's got to be there.

3) Now, we need to remove KB3035583. Look in the control panels
again, and open the Programs and Features (equivalent to Add/Remove
of old). In there, see if a Windows update with KB3035583 in
the name is listed. Select uninstall.

This installation should not have any Windows folder dependency
in the sense of needing a reboot. If it asks you to reboot, fine,
do it. But there isn't any code in there that modifies the kernel
or anything. What the update does, is put a GWX folder on the
computer, and wire up a Service to start at every boot.

4) To prevent KB3035583 from coming back again, now we
need to "hide" KB3035583. Open the Windows Update control panel
again, do a Check For Updates, in the list it returns, look
for KB3035583. Right-click it and select "Hide".

Note that, even when a file is hidden, if the actual Windows Update
software itself receives an update, or if some day you're forced to
clean the SoftwareDistribution folder or use a troubleshooter on
Windows Update, that update could become "Unhidden" again.

So that's the basic recipe.

For the duration of this procedure, you may want to change your
Windows Update setting. I suspect it's on "Full Automatic" right now.
It probably contacts Microsoft automatically, downloads automatically,
and installs. Well, I don't let Windows 7 do that. I have mine set
to "never do Windows Update". In order for you to be able to Hide
that update, if the thing is set on full Automatic, it might manage
to reinstall the damn thing, before you can hide it.

You may need to set Windows Update to manual operation, until
you can complete the four steps above. If you think Microsoft
is wonderful, then later, after step 4 is complete, you can
return to Windows Update control panel and change the settings
back to fully automatic. With KB3035583 hidden, it shouldn't
be able to put the nag back.

Of the three items in your list, once KB3035583 is removed, its
carcass is hidden, some of the current items in your Windows Update
window should no longer be listed. WIth the nag gone, no patches
for the nag will be needed. They would normally only show up,
if the logic detected that KB3035583 was installed.

*******

Now, let's assume your campaign fails, and KB3035583 beats you.
It comes back, and you cannot seem to defeat it.

http://superuser.com/questions/92206...tion-area-tray

"According to TechJourney.net, you can also make a small
registry change [with Regedit] to prevent the application starting.

This registry key will stop it from displaying:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\CurrentVersion\Gwx]
"DisableGwx"=dword:00000001
"

So there is an actual control knob to reduce the nagging.
The task will still be starting, but when the Microsoft
code checks that registry key, it'll know it's supposed
to lay low and not bug you. So if KB3035583 is still installed,
that's the registry entry to stop the nag.

Paul
  #42  
Old June 6th 15, 10:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Hello Paul,

The KB3035583 is in the update history
but it's not in the Programs and Features.

I changed Updates to notify me and let decide
when and if.

Thanks,
Robert
  #43  
Old June 6th 15, 11:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Mark Twain wrote:
Hello Paul,

The KB3035583 is in the update history
but it's not in the Programs and Features.

I changed Updates to notify me and let decide
when and if.

Thanks,
Robert


OK, I showed you this one. But this leaves
a lot to the imagination.

http://superuser.com/questions/92206...tion-area-tray

*******

But this one has *pictures*, and it would
take me forever and a day to make you a
recipe this good.

http://www.howtogeek.com/218856/how-...fication-tray/

And this is where you can remove '583, by using the
button highlighted in red here.

http://cdn3.howtogeek.com/wp-content...uBt7RqJZLH.png

So that HowToGeek article is very good.

Have fun,
Paul
  #44  
Old June 8th 15, 10:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Hello Paul,

I went into the Program and Features and
uninstalled the KB3035583 update.

Now just waiting for the CD's.

Thanks,
Robert

  #45  
Old June 8th 15, 10:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Default Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Hello Paul,

I restarted the computer and the nag
icon is gone.

So all looks good.


Robert
 




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