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Old July 3rd 15, 05:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows

On 7/2/15 7:01 AM, Mayayana wrote:
| or make a pdf file using a free tool
|

Yes, Libre Office can do that, which seems
like a more dependable format to bring to
a printer. As far as I know, RTF is a Windows-only
format. It requires a Windows RichEdit window
to be displayed. Maybe Mac Office can do it,
but that doesn't seem like a smart chance to
take when it's not necessary.


Macs support RTF.


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Old July 3rd 15, 06:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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| Macs support RTF.
|

Thanks. Good to know. I guess it's not so surprising,
given that the format is published and relatively easy
to use. Oddly, the Wikipedia page for RTF says Macs
had it first:

"The first RTF reader and writer shipped in 1987
as part of Microsoft Word 3.0 for Macintosh"


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Old July 3rd 15, 06:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows

On 7/3/15 11:05 AM, Mayayana wrote:
| Macs support RTF.
|

Thanks. Good to know. I guess it's not so surprising,
given that the format is published and relatively easy
to use. Oddly, the Wikipedia page for RTF says Macs
had it first:

"The first RTF reader and writer shipped in 1987
as part of Microsoft Word 3.0 for Macintosh"


That doesn't surprise me. I've learned there's a lot of things Macs and
others have had long before Microsoft.


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Old July 3rd 15, 06:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Ken Springer wrote:
On 7/2/15 7:01 AM, Mayayana wrote:
| or make a pdf file using a free tool
|

Yes, Libre Office can do that, which seems
like a more dependable format to bring to
a printer. As far as I know, RTF is a Windows-only
format. It requires a Windows RichEdit window
to be displayed. Maybe Mac Office can do it,
but that doesn't seem like a smart chance to
take when it's not necessary.


Macs support RTF.


http://web.archive.org/web/200803230...ext_format.php

"Preserves Basic Formatting

RTF will not retain complex formatting such as table
information, graphic alignment and pagination or macros.

However, it does retain font selection, font sizing, and
text styling (bold, italics, underline) and depending on
the application, font coloring.

For most common documents, this is more than enough
formatting. In fact, RTF is often used in the publishing
world as a format for rough drafts. Once the initial editing
is finished, the RTF is imported into Quark XPress,
Adobe InDesign, or some other page layout program for
final formatting.

This allows editors to focus on editing content, without
the distraction of too much formatting."

I think that sets the right tone, for the usage model.

I've had cases, where a tool that claims to import/export
RTF, will export a document, and then not be able to read
its own output. It's that fine as a standard of interchange.

I wouldn't touch a file with that file extension, with a
barge pole, Mac or PC.

Paul
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Old July 3rd 15, 07:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 12:21:20 -0400, micky
wrote:

I'm not sure "just" is the right word. They'll have to install their
printer to your computer, which means it will have to be listed in XP's
list of printers, or they'll need the installation program that came
with their printer but which they may have misplaced, or they'll have to
find and download the file from the maker's webste or elsewhere.

I was staying in the Armenian Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem when
I had to print something. I'm trying to remember what it was but I
think it was just a couple pages. Needless to say, I had no printer
with me. I did remember to bring a flashdrive with me (as cheap as $4
or 5 now) so I took the file** to a small Arab computer shop in the
Moslem Quarter (well, right by the Yaffa Gate) which mostly rented
computers to people who worked right there. They had about 15 PCs.)
But he couldn't print it. I could watch what he was doing, but I missed
the error message.

**(I forget what format it had, but it wasn't exotic. Probably from
notepad or wordpad.)

So I went back to my room and printed the text to a file, an option of
almost all text editing programs***. That he had no trouble with.
IIUC, one prints the file from a cmd box using DOS commands,


It's done. I saved the file as both a .DOC and .RTF. I put it in my XP
laptop and the .doc file was all garbage characters, but the .RTF file
was fine. When I got to the print shop, they were closed. I thought they
were open till 5pm, but they close at 4. I ran into a friend who told me
to take it to the library, and they can print it.

I went to the library and she connected me to a computer. The .RTF
loaded fine, but because I put a small picture on the page, it would not
fit on one page. The woman told me she could fix it, and got the header
next to the picture, rather than below it, (which is what I wanted
anyhow). Then it fit the page and printed perfectly. I only had to pay
for the copies, not for any help. I'm very happy with the results.

I asked what software was being used, and it's MS Word 10, running
Windows 7. That's the first time I ever used Windows 7, or MS Word.
MS Word looked very complicted, but worked well for my needs. Windows 7
looks a lot like XP from waht I could see.

Thanks for everyone who told me to use .RTF. I quickly found out that
.DOC is useless, if transferred to another OS.


Well, if you use Wordpad to create a .DOC file. If you use MS Word to
write a .DOC, file it should be able to be transferred to another OS.

BTW, there are some good cheap alternatives to MS Word that are much better
than Wordpad. You might check into them sometime. I'll mention two of
them: Kingsoft Writer (or Kingsoft Office), and Notepro. And both can
handle .DOC files pretty well (have native .doc support).


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Old July 6th 15, 10:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:01:07 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

| or make a pdf file using a free tool
|

Yes, Libre Office can do that, which seems
like a more dependable format to bring to
a printer. As far as I know, RTF is a Windows-only
format. It requires a Windows RichEdit window
to be displayed. Maybe Mac Office can do it,
but that doesn't seem like a smart chance to
take when it's not necessary.


While I may try Libre Office at a later date, I need a SMALL program
that is free, to convert this same document to .PDF so I can email it.
My XP laptop dont have much drive space, and my desktop machine is
Win98se. Plus I dont really want to mess with a large and probably
bloated program. I just want something simple and small to make a .PDF.
What is available for free? (For XP or Win98).

Thanks

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Old July 6th 15, 02:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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| While I may try Libre Office at a later date, I need a SMALL program
| that is free, to convert this same document to .PDF so I can email it.
| My XP laptop dont have much drive space, and my desktop machine is
| Win98se. Plus I dont really want to mess with a large and probably
| bloated program. I just want something simple and small to make a .PDF.
| What is available for free? (For XP or Win98).
|

Libre Office is free. Though it is also inexcusably
bloated. Somewhere around 400 MB installed and
it lumbers into action rather than starting up.

I don't know of any other tool for making PDFs.
If you don't find one then maybe you should just
call the printer and ask if they can deal with an RTF
file. Just don't name it as a DOC.


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Old July 6th 15, 06:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:01:07 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

or make a pdf file using a free tool


Yes, Libre Office can do that, which seems
like a more dependable format to bring to
a printer. As far as I know, RTF is a Windows-only
format. It requires a Windows RichEdit window
to be displayed. Maybe Mac Office can do it,
but that doesn't seem like a smart chance to
take when it's not necessary.


While I may try Libre Office at a later date, I need a SMALL program
that is free, to convert this same document to .PDF so I can email it.
My XP laptop dont have much drive space, and my desktop machine is
Win98se. Plus I dont really want to mess with a large and probably
bloated program. I just want something simple and small to make a .PDF.
What is available for free? (For XP or Win98).

Thanks


Notepro (native .doc support) (costs only $20, and is well worth that), and
can export to PDF too. By small, I mean it's file is only 10 MB! And best
of all, it looks just like MS Word, minus the bloat and extra features

http://www.crystaloffice.com/notepro/

If I had to pick one program to replace MS Word, this is it, and I have it
installed along with MS Office. It's much smaller and less bloated than
LibreOffice and OpenOffice (but of course, it's not a complete Office
replacement. Why not try out the demo. I doubt if $20 will break the bank.


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Old July 6th 15, 11:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 09:28:11 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

Libre Office is free. Though it is also inexcusably
bloated. Somewhere around 400 MB installed and
it lumbers into action rather than starting up.


For that size, it has to be very bloated. I dont need or want something
like that. It probably does spreadsheets and all that stuff I'll never
use.

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Old July 6th 15, 11:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 09:32:30 -0400, Paul wrote:


You can use Wordpad, and a Print_to_PDF print driver.

Try dopdf 6.4.311 here. 1,808,344 bytes.

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/dopdf/

Paul


This sounded like what I could use. I downloaded it and clicked on it in
Win98se. It gave an error message saying "Requires Windows 5".
What the hell is Windows 5?
On the website it says it will run on Win95 and up.....

My XP laptop is not available at the moment.

However, rather than convert it to a .PDF for emailing purposes, I used
Paint Shop Pro, and did a screen capture. Then I saved it as a .JPG. I'm
sending out the .JPG files. This needed to be sent out today, I could
not wait for more stupid software that dont work!

Thanks


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Old July 6th 15, 11:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 09:32:30 -0400, Paul wrote:

You can use Wordpad, and a Print_to_PDF print driver.

Try dopdf 6.4.311 here. 1,808,344 bytes.

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/dopdf/

Paul


This sounded like what I could use. I downloaded it and clicked on it in
Win98se. It gave an error message saying "Requires Windows 5".
What the hell is Windows 5?
On the website it says it will run on Win95 and up.....

My XP laptop is not available at the moment.

However, rather than convert it to a .PDF for emailing purposes, I used
Paint Shop Pro, and did a screen capture. Then I saved it as a .JPG. I'm
sending out the .JPG files. This needed to be sent out today, I could
not wait for more stupid software that dont work!

Thanks


I intended that for your WinXP machine, not Win98.

You know how much stuff works on Win98 :-)

Paul

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Old July 7th 15, 07:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Il giorno Mon 06 Jul 2015 11:02:24a, ** inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio
. Vediamo cosa scrisse:

I need a SMALL program
that is free, to convert this same document to .PDF


search he
http://www.filehippo.com/software/office/

among many PDF creators, check the right column for an older version that
still works with 98, even if I'm note sure you'll find something

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Old July 7th 15, 07:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Il giorno Tue 07 Jul 2015 08:51:17a, *Ammammata* inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio
89. Vediamo cosa scrisse:

check the right column for an older version


er... I mean "after you have selected one software"

e.g. http://filehippo.com/download_cutepdf_writer/

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