What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/tQOZWnVo/ot-router-recommendations

Same with me, although mine is "much" newer, as the warranty expired in
2013 so it's a 2012 router!

Given what we know about power attainable in WiFi based on the Ubiquiti
thread, what REALLY matters in terms of buying a home router today?
o Curious how far your Wi-Fi access point is from your desktop computer
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/DuhwEEDs/curious-how-far-your-wi-fi-access-point-is-from-your-desktop-computer

Typical home routers are hopelessly anemic in terms of power, aren't they?
o So what really matters when buying a router for your home today?

I don't know, but as I am wont to do, I'll make a first pass stab:
(This is just a guess since I'm not looking for a router myself.)

1. First in import, I would think, is WiFI AP transmit power, which, let's
face it, is almost fatally anemic in all home routers, but if you can get
3dBm more than some other router, that's DOUBLE the power (and, as I
recall, 1/4 more range).

2. Second in import, I would think, isn't antenna gain (as they're all
likely 3dBI or so omni antennas, even as the marketing of them may get
"fancy" with all sorts of technologies that simple "gain" would more
directly overwhelm), nor is second in import, I would think, the supported
protocols, as AC of whatever "speed" you can get is gonna be in all of
them.

Second in import, I guess, is "speed", which, um, I don't know, I guess
it's directly related to the CPU and RAM of the computer inside the router,
but where the lies about "claimed" speed may make that comparison
difficult.

3. Third in import, I guess, is "everything else", such as, oh, perhaps:
a. Detachable antenna (so you can put a more directional antenna if needed)
b. USB port (CIFs SAMBA, so you can put files on the Internet, if needed)
c. (special needs may take priority, like multiple fast streaming needs)

4. I suspect the commodity checklist stuff goes here, such as
a. fast ports, usually 4, but the faster & more the better of course
b. firewall configuration (but don't they all have them?)
c. what else matters?

What do we care about in a home router to select the best for us?
--
Such a general question which for purposefully helpful but sound advice.

On 10/27/2019 3:10 PM, Arlen _G_ Holder wrote:
What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations


Typical home routers are hopelessly anemic in terms of power, aren't they?
o So what really matters when buying a router for your home today?



I use a Bosch 1616EVS router in the table, but a DeWalt plunge router on
the bench. Soft start is a very nice feature to have. Variable speed
is good if you will use large diameter bits.

On 2019-10-27 3:04 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/27/2019 3:10 PM, Arlen _G_ Holder wrote:
What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations


Typical home routers are hopelessly anemic in terms of power, aren't
they?
o So what really matters when buying a router for your home today?



I use a Bosch 1616EVS router in the table, but a DeWalt plunge router on
the bench.Â* Soft start is a very nice feature to have.Â* Variable speed
is good if you will use large diameter bits.

You Sir, are on the *cutting Edge*. :-)

Rene

On 10/27/2019 4:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/27/2019 3:10 PM, Arlen _G_ Holder wrote:
What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations


Typical home routers are hopelessly anemic in terms of power, aren't they?
o So what really matters when buying a router for your home today?



I use a Bosch 1616EVS router in the table, but a DeWalt plunge router on the bench.Â* Soft start is a very nice feature to have. Variable speed is good if you will use large diameter bits.


My Binford 6100 has plenty of power.

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Arlen _G_
Holder wrote:


What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/tQOZWnVo/ot-router-recommendations

Same with me, although mine is "much" newer, as the warranty expired in
2013 so it's a 2012 router!

I use a wireless router. It works okay for the internet, but I can
never get it to machine the wood.

On 10/27/2019 3:10 PM, Arlen _G_ Holder wrote:
What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/tQOZWnVo/ot-router-recommendations

Same with me, although mine is "much" newer, as the warranty expired in
2013 so it's a 2012 router!

Given what we know about power attainable in WiFi based on the Ubiquiti
thread, what REALLY matters in terms of buying a home router today?
o Curious how far your Wi-Fi access point is from your desktop computer
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/DuhwEEDs/curious-how-far-your-wi-fi-access-point-is-from-your-desktop-computer

Typical home routers are hopelessly anemic in terms of power, aren't they?
o So what really matters when buying a router for your home today?

I don't know, but as I am wont to do, I'll make a first pass stab:
(This is just a guess since I'm not looking for a router myself.)

1. First in import, I would think, is WiFI AP transmit power, which, let's
face it, is almost fatally anemic in all home routers, but if you can get
3dBm more than some other router, that's DOUBLE the power (and, as I
recall, 1/4 more range).

2. Second in import, I would think, isn't antenna gain (as they're all
likely 3dBI or so omni antennas, even as the marketing of them may get
"fancy" with all sorts of technologies that simple "gain" would more
directly overwhelm), nor is second in import, I would think, the supported
protocols, as AC of whatever "speed" you can get is gonna be in all of
them.

Second in import, I guess, is "speed", which, um, I don't know, I guess
it's directly related to the CPU and RAM of the computer inside the router,
but where the lies about "claimed" speed may make that comparison
difficult.

3. Third in import, I guess, is "everything else", such as, oh, perhaps:
a. Detachable antenna (so you can put a more directional antenna if needed)
b. USB port (CIFs SAMBA, so you can put files on the Internet, if needed)
c. (special needs may take priority, like multiple fast streaming needs)

4. I suspect the commodity checklist stuff goes here, such as
a. fast ports, usually 4, but the faster & more the better of course
b. firewall configuration (but don't they all have them?)
c. what else matters?

What do we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

My Xfinity modem contains the router. They gave us a new one last year
to handle their highest tier of service. The unit is catercorner on the
2nd floor from my desktop and laptop on the first floor. I have both on
Ethernet. Using wifi only in these rooms gives about 1/3 the speed.

micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Arlen _G_
Holder wrote:

What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/tQOZWnVo/ot-router-recommendations

Same with me, although mine is "much" newer, as the warranty expired in
2013 so it's a 2012 router!

I use a wireless router. It works okay for the internet, but I can
never get it to machine the wood.

You're probably holding it wrong.

There used to be a TV series, where the father and son did
nothing but use routers. It appears the series was called
"The Router Workshop" and it had fairly cheesy production
values. (The back wall of the shop, looked like it
was designed by an "art director".)

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q="the+router+workshop"

Watch that series first, then give it another try.
I'm sure it'll work this time.

Paul

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/27/2019 3:10 PM, Arlen _G_ Holder wrote:
What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations


Typical home routers are hopelessly anemic in terms of power, aren't they?
o So what really matters when buying a router for your home today?



I use a Bosch 1616EVS router in the table, but a DeWalt plunge router on
the bench. Soft start is a very nice feature to have. Variable speed
is good if you will use large diameter bits.

Lol

Am curious. In the US how are the two types of routers pronounced?

In the UK we pronounce them differently and so can differentiate between
them quite easily. A "root-er" is the internet one and a "r-ow-ter" is the
carpentry tool.

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Tim Taylor wrote:
[...]
My Binford 6100 has plenty of power.

.... I don't think so, Tim.

(man, that brings back memories!)



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Chris wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
[...]
I use a Bosch 1616EVS router in the table, but a DeWalt plunge router on
the bench. Soft start is a very nice feature to have. Variable speed
is good if you will use large diameter bits.

Lol

Am curious. In the US how are the two types of routers pronounced?

In the UK we pronounce them differently and so can differentiate between
them quite easily. A "root-er" is the internet one and a "r-ow-ter" is the
carpentry tool.

Both are "r-ow-ter". (along with "route" as in "this is the route we're
going to take today", although that can be speaker-specific to some
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Paul wrote:
micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Arlen _G_
Holder wrote:

What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/tQOZWnVo/ot-router-recommendations

Same with me, although mine is "much" newer, as the warranty expired in
2013 so it's a 2012 router!

I use a wireless router. It works okay for the internet, but I can
never get it to machine the wood.

You're probably holding it wrong.

Only if it's an apple product.

[...]
Watch that series first, then give it another try.
I'm sure it'll work this time.

"If she doesn't find you handsome; she should at least find you handy."

-- Red Green


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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 27 Oct 2019 20:10:29 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Arlen _G_
Holder wrote:

What should we care about in a home router to select the best for us?

In a recent thread on the Windows ng, it was noted by one that their
current router worked just fine even as it was 9 years old.
o Router recommendations
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/tQOZWnVo/ot-router-recommendations

Same with me, although mine is "much" newer, as the warranty expired in
2013 so it's a 2012 router!

I use a wireless router. It works okay for the internet, but I can
never get it to machine the wood.

You're probably holding it wrong.

There used to be a TV series, where the father and son did
nothing but use routers. It appears the series was called
"The Router Workshop" and it had fairly cheesy production
values. (The back wall of the shop, looked like it
was designed by an "art director".)

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q="the+router+workshop"

Watch that series first, then give it another try.
I'm sure it'll work this time.

Paul

That helped a lot. Up all night, completed my 14 foot wide, 8 foot high
bas relief in oak of Washington Crossing the Delaware. The New Jersey
Historical Association is sending a truck to pick it up.

On 28/10/2019 12:22, Dan Purgert wrote:
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Chris wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
[...]
I use a Bosch 1616EVS router in the table, but a DeWalt plunge router on
the bench. Soft start is a very nice feature to have. Variable speed
is good if you will use large diameter bits.

Lol

Am curious. In the US how are the two types of routers pronounced?

In the UK we pronounce them differently and so can differentiate between
them quite easily. A "root-er" is the internet one and a "r-ow-ter" is the
carpentry tool.

Both are "r-ow-ter". (along with "route" as in "this is the route we're
going to take today", although that can be speaker-specific to some
degree).

Thanks. Suspected as much, given the route pronunciation.

On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 09:58:28 -0000 (UTC), Chris
wrote:

Am curious. In the US how are the two types of routers pronounced?

In the UK we pronounce them differently and so can differentiate between
them quite easily. A "root-er" is the internet one and a "r-ow-ter" is the
carpentry tool.

I pronounce the two words the same, but you can tell the intent from
context.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 28 Oct 2019 12:22:48 -0000 (UTC), Dan
Purgert wrote:


Am curious. In the US how are the two types of routers pronounced?

In the UK we pronounce them differently and so can differentiate between
them quite easily. A "root-er" is the internet one and a "r-ow-ter" is the
carpentry tool.

Both are "r-ow-ter". (along with "route" as in "this is the route we're
going to take today", although that can be speaker-specific to some
degree).

Get your kicks on Root 66.