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  #1  
Old November 2nd 19, 01:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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Default OT Capslock key

Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.

Rene
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  #2  
Old November 2nd 19, 01:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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On 2019-11-01 8:02 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Â*Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.

Rene


Lets try *key tweak* not teak, it's not made of wood :-)

Rene

  #3  
Old November 2nd 19, 02:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 11/1/19 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Â*Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.

Rene


Hi Rene,

I can type by the way and I find the capo lock key to
be OBNOXIOUS!

You are way nicer that me about it. At times, I have
pried it off with a small screwdriver. If I want
cap locks I have to stick my little finger down
the hole.

On my base Linux system, I have resorted to mapping
it to the giant bit bucket in the sky.

-T

  #4  
Old November 2nd 19, 03:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_7_]
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Default OT Capslock key

On 11/1/2019 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.



I'm also one of the world's worst typists. I've been using Sharpkeys to
do the same thing, but I just discovered and implemented a better
alternative at
https://www.howtogeek.com/446418/how...ey-on-windows/

Instead of disabling it, I now have remapped it to do useful thing. It
uses Autohotkey, which I've been using for several years and like a lot.

--
Ken
  #5  
Old November 2nd 19, 04:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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Default OT Capslock key

On 2019-11-02 10:40 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
On 11/1/2019 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Â*Â* Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.



I'm also one of the world's worst typists. I've been using Sharpkeys to
do the sameÂ* thing, but I just discovered and implemented a better
alternative at
https://www.howtogeek.com/446418/how...ey-on-windows/


Instead of disabling it, I now have remapped it to do useful thing. It
uses Autohotkey, which I've been using for several years and like a lot.


Thanks Ken, good show, that makes the caps lock key actually useful.

Rene

  #6  
Old November 2nd 19, 04:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_7_]
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On 11/2/2019 9:06 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-11-02 10:40 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
On 11/1/2019 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Â*Â* Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.



I'm also one of the world's worst typists. I've been using Sharpkeys to
do the sameÂ* thing, but I just discovered and implemented a better
alternative at
https://www.howtogeek.com/446418/how...ey-on-windows/


Instead of disabling it, I now have remapped it to do useful thing. It
uses Autohotkey, which I've been using for several years and like a lot.


Thanks Ken, good show, that makes the caps lock key actually useful.



You're welcome. Glad to help.

Now I have to remember to use it.


--
Ken
  #7  
Old November 3rd 19, 11:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Chris
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T wrote:
On 11/1/19 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Â*Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.

Rene


Hi Rene,

I can type by the way and I find the capo lock key to
be OBNOXIOUS!

You are way nicer that me about it. At times, I have
pried it off with a small screwdriver. If I want
cap locks I have to stick my little finger down
the hole.

On my base Linux system, I have resorted to mapping
it to the giant bit bucket in the sky.


I always turn it off. Windows, Mac and Linux. It is a waste of keyboard
space. Why is it such a big key?

  #8  
Old November 3rd 19, 11:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default OT Capslock key

Chris wrote:
T wrote:
On 11/1/19 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.

Rene

Hi Rene,

I can type by the way and I find the capo lock key to
be OBNOXIOUS!

You are way nicer that me about it. At times, I have
pried it off with a small screwdriver. If I want
cap locks I have to stick my little finger down
the hole.

On my base Linux system, I have resorted to mapping
it to the giant bit bucket in the sky.


I always turn it off. Windows, Mac and Linux. It is a waste of keyboard
space. Why is it such a big key?


The keyboard was designed to roughly match the old
mechanical typewriters. The Shift Lock would be in
that position on an Underwood. You pushed the Shift
to lift the entire typing mechanism, to capitalize
one letter. You pushed the Shift Lock to lock the
mechanism in the elevated position. A slight
second push on the Shift Lock, released the
locking mechanism.

The Caps Lock is in the place of the Shift Lock,
and is a bit larger than the Shift Lock used to be.
The Shift key was a relatively large diameter circle.
While the Shift Lock was made smaller, presumably for
tactile purposes. The Shift Lock didn't need as much
force, because it was just a lock, while the Shift
was the part that did the lifting of the entire
typewriter central mechanism.

Part of the key layout on a computer keyboard, is
a kind of "brickwork", with an offset between rows.
The end keys are scaled to fill the half-key offset
and square up the ends of the keyboard matrix. The
size of the key is just happenstance. The position
of the key is meant to match a mechanical typewriter,
so you would "feel at home" while using it.

And using a mechanical typewriter, is a lot like
playing the piano :-) If you learned to play the
piano first, your typing speed would pick up faster
than the other students in your class. Just as learning
to ice skate, makes it easier to learn the balance
of downhill skiing. It's a bitch to teach someone
to downhill ski, who has never ice-skated ("they keep
falling over").

Paul
  #9  
Old November 3rd 19, 05:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_7_]
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Default OT Capslock key

On 11/3/2019 4:49 AM, Paul wrote:
Chris wrote:
T wrote:
On 11/1/19 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever, Something
I should have done ages ago.

Rene
Hi Rene,

I can type by the way and I find the capo lock key to
be OBNOXIOUS!

You are way nicer that me about it. At times, I have
pried it off with a small screwdriver. If I want
cap locks I have to stick my little finger down
the hole.

On my base Linux system, I have resorted to mapping
it to the giant bit bucket in the sky.


I always turn it off. Windows, Mac and Linux. It is a waste of keyboard
space. Why is it such a big key?


The keyboard was designed to roughly match the old
mechanical typewriters. The Shift Lock would be in
that position on an Underwood. You pushed the Shift
to lift the entire typing mechanism, to capitalize
one letter. You pushed the Shift Lock to lock the
mechanism in the elevated position. A slight
second push on the Shift Lock, released the
locking mechanism.

The Caps Lock is in the place of the Shift Lock,
and is a bit larger than the Shift Lock used to be.
The Shift key was a relatively large diameter circle.
While the Shift Lock was made smaller, presumably for
tactile purposes. The Shift Lock didn't need as much
force, because it was just a lock, while the Shift
was the part that did the lifting of the entire
typewriter central mechanism.

Part of the key layout on a computer keyboard, is
a kind of "brickwork", with an offset between rows.
The end keys are scaled to fill the half-key offset
and square up the ends of the keyboard matrix. The
size of the key is just happenstance. The position
of the key is meant to match a mechanical typewriter,
so you would "feel at home" while using it.

And using a mechanical typewriter, is a lot like
playing the piano :-) If you learned to play the
piano first, your typing speed would pick up faster
than the other students in your class. Just as learning
to ice skate, makes it easier to learn the balance
of downhill skiing. It's a bitch to teach someone
to downhill ski, who has never ice-skated ("they keep
falling over").



Not to disagree with you, since I don't know you're wrong, but I've
never before heard of a relationship between piano playing and
typewriting, or between ice skating and skiing.

On the other hand, I can't do any of the four of them.


--
Ken
  #10  
Old November 3rd 19, 07:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default OT Capslock key

Ken Blake wrote:
On 11/3/2019 4:49 AM, Paul wrote:
Chris wrote:
T wrote:
On 11/1/19 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever,
Something I should have done ages ago.

Rene
Hi Rene,

I can type by the way and I find the capo lock key to
be OBNOXIOUS!

You are way nicer that me about it. At times, I have
pried it off with a small screwdriver. If I want
cap locks I have to stick my little finger down
the hole.

On my base Linux system, I have resorted to mapping
it to the giant bit bucket in the sky.

I always turn it off. Windows, Mac and Linux. It is a waste of keyboard
space. Why is it such a big key?


The keyboard was designed to roughly match the old
mechanical typewriters. The Shift Lock would be in
that position on an Underwood. You pushed the Shift
to lift the entire typing mechanism, to capitalize
one letter. You pushed the Shift Lock to lock the
mechanism in the elevated position. A slight
second push on the Shift Lock, released the
locking mechanism.

The Caps Lock is in the place of the Shift Lock,
and is a bit larger than the Shift Lock used to be.
The Shift key was a relatively large diameter circle.
While the Shift Lock was made smaller, presumably for
tactile purposes. The Shift Lock didn't need as much
force, because it was just a lock, while the Shift
was the part that did the lifting of the entire
typewriter central mechanism.

Part of the key layout on a computer keyboard, is
a kind of "brickwork", with an offset between rows.
The end keys are scaled to fill the half-key offset
and square up the ends of the keyboard matrix. The
size of the key is just happenstance. The position
of the key is meant to match a mechanical typewriter,
so you would "feel at home" while using it.

And using a mechanical typewriter, is a lot like
playing the piano :-) If you learned to play the
piano first, your typing speed would pick up faster
than the other students in your class. Just as learning
to ice skate, makes it easier to learn the balance
of downhill skiing. It's a bitch to teach someone
to downhill ski, who has never ice-skated ("they keep
falling over").



Not to disagree with you, since I don't know you're wrong, but I've
never before heard of a relationship between piano playing and
typewriting, or between ice skating and skiing.

On the other hand, I can't do any of the four of them.


A guy at work, did absolutely nothing as a kid.
Didn't even ride a bicycle. We decided to teach him
to ski.

He had so little "balance skill", we could not keep
him vertical long enough, to get him into a chair lift.
If we had got him into a chair lift, the day probably
would have ended in disaster. One thing he was good at,
was drinking in the bar :-)

With piano playing, they teach a certain positioning of
the fingers, for striking the keys. If you need fortissimo,
it's easier to get it, if you learned how to place your hands
and fingers properly over the keys. It's very similar to
typing (for the forces required to get a mechanical
typewriter going). With my piano experience, I was
able to get 30WPM after a 30 day typing course. I think
going faster than that, would have been quite difficult
for me.

Paul
  #11  
Old November 3rd 19, 07:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_7_]
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Default OT Capslock key

On 11/3/2019 12:07 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On 11/3/2019 4:49 AM, Paul wrote:
Chris wrote:
T wrote:
On 11/1/19 6:02 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Being one of the worlds worst typists my keyboard and the useless,
obnoxious caps lock key finally tried my patience one step too far.
I downloaded and installed Key Teak from.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...ml#screenshots

Then I was finally able to disable that useless key Forever,
Something I should have done ages ago.

Rene
Hi Rene,

I can type by the way and I find the capo lock key to
be OBNOXIOUS!

You are way nicer that me about it. At times, I have
pried it off with a small screwdriver. If I want
cap locks I have to stick my little finger down
the hole.

On my base Linux system, I have resorted to mapping
it to the giant bit bucket in the sky.

I always turn it off. Windows, Mac and Linux. It is a waste of keyboard
space. Why is it such a big key?


The keyboard was designed to roughly match the old
mechanical typewriters. The Shift Lock would be in
that position on an Underwood. You pushed the Shift
to lift the entire typing mechanism, to capitalize
one letter. You pushed the Shift Lock to lock the
mechanism in the elevated position. A slight
second push on the Shift Lock, released the
locking mechanism.

The Caps Lock is in the place of the Shift Lock,
and is a bit larger than the Shift Lock used to be.
The Shift key was a relatively large diameter circle.
While the Shift Lock was made smaller, presumably for
tactile purposes. The Shift Lock didn't need as much
force, because it was just a lock, while the Shift
was the part that did the lifting of the entire
typewriter central mechanism.

Part of the key layout on a computer keyboard, is
a kind of "brickwork", with an offset between rows.
The end keys are scaled to fill the half-key offset
and square up the ends of the keyboard matrix. The
size of the key is just happenstance. The position
of the key is meant to match a mechanical typewriter,
so you would "feel at home" while using it.

And using a mechanical typewriter, is a lot like
playing the piano :-) If you learned to play the
piano first, your typing speed would pick up faster
than the other students in your class. Just as learning
to ice skate, makes it easier to learn the balance
of downhill skiing. It's a bitch to teach someone
to downhill ski, who has never ice-skated ("they keep
falling over").



Not to disagree with you, since I don't know you're wrong, but I've
never before heard of a relationship between piano playing and
typewriting, or between ice skating and skiing.

On the other hand, I can't do any of the four of them.


A guy at work, did absolutely nothing as a kid.
Didn't even ride a bicycle. We decided to teach him
to ski.



I never learned to ride a bike until I was 11. I learned, but I was
terrible at it. I haven't done it for about 70 years and couldn't do it now.


He had so little "balance skill", we could not keep
him vertical long enough, to get him into a chair lift.
If we had got him into a chair lift,


I've gotten into chair lefts a couple of times--in the summer. Then I
walked down.


the day probably
would have ended in disaster. One thing he was good at,
was drinking in the bar :-)



I also can't swim. I'm very bad at doing anything that requires good
balance--not just because I'm 82. I've always been bad at those things.


With piano playing, they teach a certain positioning of
the fingers, for striking the keys. If you need fortissimo,
it's easier to get it, if you learned how to place your hands
and fingers properly over the keys. It's very similar to
typing (for the forces required to get a mechanical
typewriter going). With my piano experience, I was
able to get 30WPM after a 30 day typing course. I think
going faster than that, would have been quite difficult
for me.



The guitar, which I play, is similar in that respect. Actually I can
also play the piano a little. My main problem is that I can read either
the left hand music or the right hand, but it's very hard for me to do
both at once.


--
Ken
  #12  
Old November 4th 19, 05:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...

And using a mechanical typewriter, is a lot like
playing the piano :-) If you learned to play the
piano first, your typing speed would pick up faster
than the other students in your class. Just as learning
to ice skate, makes it easier to learn the balance
of downhill skiing. It's a bitch to teach someone
to downhill ski, who has never ice-skated ("they keep
falling over").



Not to disagree with you, since I don't know you're wrong, but I've never
before heard of a relationship between piano playing and typewriting, or
between ice skating and skiing.

On the other hand, I can't do any of the four of them.


I've never had the balance to ski or skate (ice or roller). I can type
moderately fast, using several fingers (though not the correct ones that a
typist is taught to use). I learned the piano at school but I wasn't very
good - I had great difficulty translating musical notation into the timing
(I was fine with working out *what* notes, but I was hopeless with timing).

A typist who can also play the piano probably shouldn't try typing chords
;-)

  #13  
Old November 4th 19, 05:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
NY[_2_]
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
A guy at work, did absolutely nothing as a kid.
Didn't even ride a bicycle. We decided to teach him
to ski.



I never learned to ride a bike until I was 11. I learned, but I was
terrible at it. I haven't done it for about 70 years and couldn't do it
now.


I was surprised at how quickly the skill of riding a bike came back to me
after about 30 years of not riding.


I also can't swim. I'm very bad at doing anything that requires good
balance--not just because I'm 82. I've always been bad at those things.


My problem with swimming is staying above the water. I seem to have negative
buoyancy and have done all my life, both when I was young and slim and now
when I'm a bit bulkier. My party trick in the school swimming pool was to
grasp my arms round my knees (to prevent me instinctively flailing with my
arms when I felt myself going under) and I would sink to the bottom of the
deep end, bounce off the bottom and settle in a position about three feet
below the surface - and then I'd run out of breath and swim for the surface.
It made swimming more tiring because I had to keep moving to stay afloat. I
find it very difficult to tread water in a standing position, but if I lie
on my back then I can stay afloat as long as I keep moving my arms and legs.
But I stop moving, down I go!

  #14  
Old November 4th 19, 06:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_7_]
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On 11/4/2019 10:14 AM, NY wrote:
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
A guy at work, did absolutely nothing as a kid.
Didn't even ride a bicycle. We decided to teach him
to ski.



I never learned to ride a bike until I was 11. I learned, but I was
terrible at it. I haven't done it for about 70 years and couldn't do it
now.


I was surprised at how quickly the skill of riding a bike came back to me
after about 30 years of not riding.



Your skill at it must be much better than mine ever was. When I learned
how, I just barely managed to do it.


--
Ken
  #15  
Old November 4th 19, 08:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
NY[_2_]
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
On 11/4/2019 10:14 AM, NY wrote:
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
A guy at work, did absolutely nothing as a kid.
Didn't even ride a bicycle. We decided to teach him
to ski.


I never learned to ride a bike until I was 11. I learned, but I was
terrible at it. I haven't done it for about 70 years and couldn't do it
now.


I was surprised at how quickly the skill of riding a bike came back to me
after about 30 years of not riding.



Your skill at it must be much better than mine ever was. When I learned
how, I just barely managed to do it.


I can't remember ever not being able to ride a bike, or the exhilaration
when I first managed the technique - which probably says more about my
memory than about any innate bike-riding skill ;-) My balance is generally
not very good - I can't stand on one leg for very long and I've never been
able to walk a tightrope. But riding a bike seemed to come naturally.

I had a bike until I went to university and went for rides most weekends to
keep fit. There was nowhere to keep a bike safe at university, and my first
house (where I lived for about 15 years) had nowhere to keep a bike - except
in the living room. So I sold it. Then when I bought a larger house with a
garage, I bought a bike - about 20 years after I'd last ridden. Going for my
first test-ride on a bike from a bike shop was slightly weird: it was a leap
of faith that I would still be able to do it, and to master derailleur gears
when my previous bike had had Sturmey Archer hub gears.

One thing I tried a couple of years ago was riding on a Segway in Spain.
Spain have sensible laws (unlike the UK) and you can ride them on the road
or on a pavement that has a cycle lane. It took a while to get my balance: a
group of us on an excursion from a cruise were led by a couple of guides
(one leading, one following) and they took us off-road for a while and made
us practice stopping and starting (the hardest manoeuvres). I did the same
as other people and nearly crashed into the person ahead when they moved
across my path unexpectedly. But after about half an hour I felt fairly
confident. Then they took us on quiet city streets, where there were a few
cars but lots of pedestrians. I felt in perfect control, able to steer
around hazards and control my speed in the same way as if I was walking.
Even riding on cobbles was not as hard as I expected. I discovered a nice
trick: if you steer full left or right lock while going forwards or
backwards, the Segway will turn about its own mid-point, with one wheel
going forwards and the other backwards.

Sadly the UK doesn't look as if it will ever license Segways or similar
devices, even if they are restricted to 15 mph like electrically-assisted
bicycles, for use either on the road or on a pavement. Spoilsports. I bet
I'm a *lot* safer on a Segway than your average users of a mobility scooter:
I've lost count of the number of times I've had an old biddy back into me or
ride over my foot in a supermarket.

 




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