Unidentified Start-up list items

Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder, registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking is
how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that he
doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

--
JD..

Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder, registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking is
how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that he
doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

--
JD..

JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder, registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking is
how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that he
doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder, registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking is
how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that he
doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

--
JD..

William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

--
JD..

JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items
and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

BANZAI!!!! That last .mvps.org referral was easy to use
and it got rid of the Zone Labs entry.
Thanks a bunch!!!!!

JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items
and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

BANZAI!!!! That last .mvps.org referral was easy to use
and it got rid of the Zone Labs entry.
Thanks a bunch!!!!!

William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows
startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up
items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

BANZAI!!!! That last .mvps.org referral was easy to use
and it got rid of the Zone Labs entry.
Thanks a bunch!!!!!

Could you explain what you did? My research seems to indicate that I
should Export the setting and then save that as a .reg file and then
delete the key and it's gone. What did you do?

And what happened to Jose?

--
JD..

William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows
startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up
items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

BANZAI!!!! That last .mvps.org referral was easy to use
and it got rid of the Zone Labs entry.
Thanks a bunch!!!!!

Could you explain what you did? My research seems to indicate that I
should Export the setting and then save that as a .reg file and then
delete the key and it's gone. What did you do?

And what happened to Jose?

--
JD..

JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to
delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded,
manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set
the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows
startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up
items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have
searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared
Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

BANZAI!!!! That last .mvps.org referral was easy to use
and it got rid of the Zone Labs entry.
Thanks a bunch!!!!!

Could you explain what you did? My research seems to indicate that I
should Export the setting and then save that as a .reg file and then
delete the key and it's gone. What did you do?

And what happened to Jose?

I just did start/run/msconfig/regedit and went to the HKEYs and expanded
and when I saw Zone Labs I believe I right clicked, selected Delete
from the dropdown, and then exited. When I went back and looked
at the Startup items list, the zl idem had disappeared.

JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to
delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded,
manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set
the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows
startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up
items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have
searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared
Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

BANZAI!!!! That last .mvps.org referral was easy to use
and it got rid of the Zone Labs entry.
Thanks a bunch!!!!!

Could you explain what you did? My research seems to indicate that I
should Export the setting and then save that as a .reg file and then
delete the key and it's gone. What did you do?

And what happened to Jose?

I just did start/run/msconfig/regedit and went to the HKEYs and expanded
and when I saw Zone Labs I believe I right clicked, selected Delete
from the dropdown, and then exited. When I went back and looked
at the Startup items list, the zl idem had disappeared.

On Nov 18, 2:56*pm, JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.

I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

--
* JD..

Removing those registry entries will do it. My Startup tab is
completely empty and I remember deleting some unchecked Adobe junk
from there using that method.

Of course the items that are checked to run will not show up there -
just the unchecked ones including the Startup Folder, etc.

Look in msconfig and regedit at the same time, check/uncheck things in
msconfig, watch and refresh the registry as things move around,
disappear, etc.

For the - I'm scared of the registry type person, here is a third
party tool that does the same thing and can be uninstalled after
things are cleaned up:

http://www.get-in-control.com/msconfig-cleanup/

I like Autoruns just fine, but it will not doesn't know this about
unchecked items, but it is not supposed to.

People tend to use msconfig as a startup manager and you can always
tell the msconfig meddlers!

There is also a Startup Programs display in msinfo32, which is
sometimes broken (shows way too much junk), you can't change anything,
but you can display and locate. If the msinfo32 Startup Program list
overpopulates with hundreds and hundreds of lines of junk and just
your few Startup items, it is broken and can be fixed easily too. It
is not detrimental, but annoying and frightening when people start
poking around in msinfo32 (after I request their system information)

On Nov 18, 2:56*pm, JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded, permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded, manually
removing them by either using the application itself to set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.

I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

--
* JD..

Removing those registry entries will do it. My Startup tab is
completely empty and I remember deleting some unchecked Adobe junk
from there using that method.

Of course the items that are checked to run will not show up there -
just the unchecked ones including the Startup Folder, etc.

Look in msconfig and regedit at the same time, check/uncheck things in
msconfig, watch and refresh the registry as things move around,
disappear, etc.

For the - I'm scared of the registry type person, here is a third
party tool that does the same thing and can be uninstalled after
things are cleaned up:

http://www.get-in-control.com/msconfig-cleanup/

I like Autoruns just fine, but it will not doesn't know this about
unchecked items, but it is not supposed to.

People tend to use msconfig as a startup manager and you can always
tell the msconfig meddlers!

There is also a Startup Programs display in msinfo32, which is
sometimes broken (shows way too much junk), you can't change anything,
but you can display and locate. If the msinfo32 Startup Program list
overpopulates with hundreds and hundreds of lines of junk and just
your few Startup items, it is broken and can be fixed easily too. It
is not detrimental, but annoying and frightening when people start
poking around in msinfo32 (after I request their system information)

William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:16 am, "William B. wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
JD wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
I find items whose identity is not clear.
Such as:

ALCMTR
RTHDCPL
RECGUARD
dumprep 0-k

How can I identify these, to see whether I want them
active or not?

And how can I permanently remove items I don't
need or want?

Richard Urban wrote:
Whenever I find items such as these I type them into Bing or
google
and do some reading. Then I determine what I wish to do
about
them.

William B. Lurie wrote:
My question about how to remove them was aimed at not just
removing the X from the item under Start-Up, but how to
delete
the dozen items in the list that are not loaded,
permanently,
from showing in the list.

MSCONFIG, startup tab to discover how they are loaded,
manually
removing them by either using the application itself to
set the
proper settings prevening it from starting at Windows
startup or
logon and/or editing the proper location (startup folder,
registry
location, etc) to remove it.

Well, I can't use the applications themselves, because
I didn't put them up myself and wouldn't be able to find them.
And I prefer not to mess with the registry. I guess the
easy path is "It ain't broke so why fix it?". Thanks for the
help.

Looking at it again, in the light of suggestions received,
I went back and find, upon searching that Zone Labs can not
be found anywhere.....including in registry (HKEY Local and
HKEY Current). The entry in Startup list shows Prog.Files/
Zone Labs but in Program Files I can't find it. Where do I
look next?

Which entry points to Zone Labs? Do you use Zone Alarm as your
firewall?

I don't use Zone Alarm at all, and can find no trace of it
anywhere on the machine, except in the startup list. I don't
know where else to look......

Want to try a more comprehensive program to control start up
items and
more? Autoruns is a startup monitor:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

Personally, I uncheck items in MSconfig but I don't remove the
entry. So
I have a bunch of useless entries but I don't look at MSconfig
very
often. 8-)

Your approach is simple and effective, but it is annoying that
I tried ZA, didn't like it, uninstalled it, removed it from
everywhere I could, and still it is in my StartUp list and
I can't remove it. Well, this is an old system. Later came
Vista (untouched by me), and now Windows 7, which probably
is many steps forward, and many steps back, and I'll avoid
it as long as I can. Thanks, JD.

Do you mean you can't remove the unchecked item from msconfig and
would like to, can't uncheck it in msconfig, or uncheck it and it
rechecks later.

Autoruns will not show you unchecked msconfig startup items so you
cannot remove them with Autoruns - it is not supposed to. There
is no
- Autoruns might let you...

It is easy to remove unwanted and unchecked startup items in
msconfig
without any guessing, maybe, might be and you can have a completely
empty startup tab if it is your desire, but you will not do it with
Autoruns.

Every item - checked, unchecked, running or not occupies some bit of
space somewhere even if it is just enough stuff to to be able to
display an empty item.

If there is garbage left behind, get rid of it correctly and
permanently. There is no reason to live with it.


I did say "might". So enlighten us. I believe what William was asking
is how to remove items from the MSconfig list that are unchecked that
he doesn't want to check so he would like them removed from the list.

In my MSconfig list, for example, there is the following item:

Startup Item is Adobe Reader Speed Launch,
Command is D:\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\READER~1.exe
Location is Common Startup

How would I remove that so it no longer shows up in MSconfig?

I'm not being a smarty pants, I really don't know how to remove such
items from MSconfig.

JD has answered Jose's post. The ZA item is in the list. Its box is
unchecked. I want to remove it from the list, box, line and all.
I'd do it if I could find it. It's a Zone Labs creation. I have
searched
every way I know about, including regedit and Find there. I can't
find it. If I were a smarty pants I'd know, too, JD.

My notes say:

Remove Old Entries In MSConfig

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared
Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm

I haven't tried this myself, but I did look and the entries are there.

BANZAI!!!! That last .mvps.org referral was easy to use
and it got rid of the Zone Labs entry.
Thanks a bunch!!!!!

Could you explain what you did? My research seems to indicate that I
should Export the setting and then save that as a .reg file and then
delete the key and it's gone. What did you do?

And what happened to Jose?

I just did start/run/msconfig/regedit and went to the HKEYs and expanded
and when I saw Zone Labs I believe I right clicked, selected Delete
from the dropdown, and then exited. When I went back and looked
at the Startup items list, the zl idem had disappeared.

Thanks! Goodbye useless MSconfig entries! 8-)

--
JD..