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On 8/15/2014 10:17 AM, Stef wrote:
BillW50 wrote: On 8/14/2014 1:04 PM, Stef wrote: tonita wrote: I have a Dell Insprion 600m running xp since brand new. It finally died. I have all the original disks that came with the computer and wonder if I can fix it. Pretty old. 8+ years or so? Things do wear out. Are you sure? My first two laptops (a Epson PX-8 and a Sharp PC4501) I ever owned from the 80's are still running just like new. The batteries are long dead, but they run fine from the AC. No, I'm not. That's why in the next paragraph which you snipped I asked the OP to qualify what he meant by "finally died." I know and I clipped it because I saw it as being irrelevant to the belief that electronics do wear out. But, in general, yes. things do wear out, or fail, for one reason or another. And two examples of very old laptops that haven't, doesn't mean they won't eventually, or that many others haven't already. The whole idea behind solid state components is there are no moving parts and thus never wear out. Of course they still can have failures due to one reason or another. But I think you will be surprised how long some of this stuff will last. I wouldn't be surprised if some will last hundreds if not thousands of years from now. :-) -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
snip What part of "Buy a new computer" didn't you understand? (Though in this case I think it's an over-drastic response to what is probably just a corrupted file.) Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a good impetus to move on to Win 7. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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On 8/16/2014 1:24 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" snip What part of "Buy a new computer" didn't you understand? (Though in this case I think it's an over-drastic response to what is probably just a corrupted file.) Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a good impetus to move on to Win 7. XP is dead? It still works like it always did. Oh you mean by Microsoft stopped providing updates? That doesn't mean anything, this one hasn't had any updates for 8 years now. Firefox still updates, Thunderbird still updates, and Avast is still updating definitions. And all of my applications still works. So how is that dead? By the way I also have Windows 7, 8, and 8.1U1 machines and XP is still my favorite. Trust me, it is far from being dead. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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| Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a
good | impetus to move on to Win 7. | That's two people in one thread who think that XP is dead. I thought this was an XP group. Have I mistakenly stumbled into microsoft.marketing.obsolescence? |
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Mayayana typed: Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a good impetus to move on to Win 7. That's two people in one thread who think that XP is dead. I thought this was an XP group. Have I mistakenly stumbled into microsoft.marketing.obsolescence? I think they believe every word that Microsoft mutters. :-( -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:34:37 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote: | Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a good | impetus to move on to Win 7. | That's two people in one thread who think that XP is dead. I thought this was an XP group. Have I mistakenly stumbled into microsoft.marketing.obsolescence? As far as I'm concerned, it's obsolescent, but not quite obsolete yet. |
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From: "BillW50"
On 8/16/2014 1:24 PM, David H. Lipman wrote: From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" snip What part of "Buy a new computer" didn't you understand? (Though in this case I think it's an over-drastic response to what is probably just a corrupted file.) Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a good impetus to move on to Win 7. XP is dead? It still works like it always did. Oh you mean by Microsoft stopped providing updates? That doesn't mean anything, this one hasn't had any updates for 8 years now. Firefox still updates, Thunderbird still updates, and Avast is still updating definitions. And all of my applications still works. So how is that dead? By the way I also have Windows 7, 8, and 8.1U1 machines and XP is still my favorite. Trust me, it is far from being dead. A 1956 Chevy isn't "dead" either but it's not the car one would commute to work with. Like NT 3.51,NT4, Win2K, Win9x/ME - they have gone by the wayside, XP is there now as well. If one expects to use modern software and connect to the Internet, WinXP is now contraindicated and well might as well get used to that fact. If one uses a XP pltform for a dedicated software such as running Quicken for DOS v8 and it is not connected to the Internet then go ahead, continue to use XP. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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From: "Mayayana"
| Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a good | impetus to move on to Win 7. | That's two people in one thread who think that XP is dead. I thought this was an XP group. Have I mistakenly stumbled into microsoft.marketing.obsolescence? Eventually everything becomes obsolete. It some cases it is planned obsolescence. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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| If one expects to use modern software and connect to the Internet, WinXP
is | now contraindicated and well might as well get used to that fact. I use this link so much lately I should probably keep it on my Desktop: http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...ays-microsoft/ The URL describes the topic. Safety online is mainly about what you use to connect and how it's set up. If you don't use IE I don't know of any disadvantages with XP. You can even run it in restricted lackey mode if you like, just like Vista/7. And so far, aside from Microsoft slop like IE, I haven't come across any software that doesn't support XP. I'm guessing you probably allow script in your browser? Maybe even Flash? If so, going online is contraindicated and you might as well get used to that fact. But if all you want to do is view your family picture album offline then your Win7/8 computer is probably OK to use. |
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:03:39 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
wrote: From: "BillW50" By the way I also have Windows 7, 8, and 8.1U1 machines and XP is still my favorite. Trust me, it is far from being dead. A 1956 Chevy isn't "dead" either but it's not the car one would commute to work with. LOL! Right! |
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David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "BillW50" On 8/16/2014 1:24 PM, David H. Lipman wrote: From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" snip What part of "Buy a new computer" didn't you understand? (Though in this case I think it's an over-drastic response to what is probably just a corrupted file.) Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a good impetus to move on to Win 7. XP is dead? It still works like it always did. Oh you mean by Microsoft stopped providing updates? That doesn't mean anything, this one hasn't had any updates for 8 years now. Firefox still updates, Thunderbird still updates, and Avast is still updating definitions. And all of my applications still works. So how is that dead? By the way I also have Windows 7, 8, and 8.1U1 machines and XP is still my favorite. Trust me, it is far from being dead. A 1956 Chevy isn't "dead" either but it's not the car one would commute to work with. Why not? It's a classic. The only downside is the gas mileage. I'm still driving a 1988 Nissan, and wouldn't mind considering a 1956 Chevy! |
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On 8/16/2014 4:03 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "BillW50" On 8/16/2014 1:24 PM, David H. Lipman wrote: From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" snip What part of "Buy a new computer" didn't you understand? (Though in this case I think it's an over-drastic response to what is probably just a corrupted file.) Maybe but since it isn't a new platform and WinXP is a dead OS, it is a good impetus to move on to Win 7. XP is dead? It still works like it always did. Oh you mean by Microsoft stopped providing updates? That doesn't mean anything, this one hasn't had any updates for 8 years now. Firefox still updates, Thunderbird still updates, and Avast is still updating definitions. And all of my applications still works. So how is that dead? By the way I also have Windows 7, 8, and 8.1U1 machines and XP is still my favorite. Trust me, it is far from being dead. A 1956 Chevy isn't "dead" either but it's not the car one would commute to work with. Odd! I see one in the parking lot on nice sunny days as well as a '66 Mustang convertible. And dang that Mustang usually has the top down unless a storm cloud out of nowhere shows up and I see a girl running out to put the top up. Both are super nice while I am still driving around in a stupid SUV. I do sometimes ride my '95 Honda 1100cc Shadow though (looks like a Harley but ain't). I know, nothing as cool, but that is what I got. Like NT 3.51,NT4, Win2K, Win9x/ME - they have gone by the wayside, XP is there now as well. If one expects to use modern software and connect to the Internet, WinXP is now contraindicated and well might as well get used to that fact. If one uses a XP pltform for a dedicated software such as running Quicken for DOS v8 and it is not connected to the Internet then go ahead, continue to use XP. Totally different! I see trouble if you can't get updated browsers and updated AV software. So as long as third party support is there I don't see a problem. I think Microsoft screwed up big time with XP. It was around too long and they ended up creating it too perfect. It is now the standard that everything gets measured against and so far nothing else comes close. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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