Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.

Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported
home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of
installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some
backported code from a later OS that considers hardware
drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps
that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest
rollup, are not calling up the same updates.

Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing
the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually
presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates
to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not
have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it,
it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with
Windows Update for correction.

Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*,
because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in
existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it.
So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself)
delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news,
to know not to install items like that.

Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com,
it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is
in the INF file of the driver.

The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the
logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be
missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in.

On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not*
label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few
months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed
my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take
care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these
drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation
based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system
is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one
would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of
mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups
after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this
stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support
if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that
I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of
Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising
in them.

Paul

On 28/12/2016 11:18 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported
home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I have "Intel Rapid Storage Technology" installed to monitor my HDD's
but that is all.

I am not aware of any scan done during authorization.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
~~~~~~~~~~~~

On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify
me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some
light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has
reported home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of
installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some
backported code from a later OS that considers hardware
drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps
that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest
rollup, are not calling up the same updates.

Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing
the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually
presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates
to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not
have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it,
it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with
Windows Update for correction.

Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*,
because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in
existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it.
So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself)
delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news,
to know not to install items like that.

Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com,
it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is
in the INF file of the driver.

The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the
logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be
missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in.

On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not*
label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few
months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed
my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take
care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these
drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation
based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system
is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one
would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of
mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups
after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this
stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support
if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that
I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of
Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising
in them.

Paul

I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update
system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these
strange updates, so far.
Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask
for clarification.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify
me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some
light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has
reported home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of
installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some
backported code from a later OS that considers hardware
drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps
that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest
rollup, are not calling up the same updates.

Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing
the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually
presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates
to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not
have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it,
it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with
Windows Update for correction.

Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*,
because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in
existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it.
So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself)
delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news,
to know not to install items like that.

Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com,
it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is
in the INF file of the driver.

The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the
logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be
missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in.

On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not*
label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few
months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed
my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take
care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these
drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation
based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system
is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one
would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of
mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups
after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this
stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support
if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that
I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of
Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising
in them.

Paul

I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update
system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these
strange updates, so far.
Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask
for clarification.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395

I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks
like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot
of anything more interesting.

So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update"
section. As best as I can determine.

I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for
more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon).

And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either.

http://connect.microsoft.com/

Paul

On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify
me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some
light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has
reported home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of
installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some
backported code from a later OS that considers hardware
drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps
that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest
rollup, are not calling up the same updates.

Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing
the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually
presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates
to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not
have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it,
it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with
Windows Update for correction.

Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*,
because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in
existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it.
So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself)
delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news,
to know not to install items like that.

Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com,
it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is
in the INF file of the driver.

The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the
logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be
missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in.

On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not*
label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few
months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed
my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take
care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these
drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation
based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system
is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one
would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of
mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups
after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this
stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support
if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that
I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of
Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising
in them.

Paul

I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update
system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these
strange updates, so far.
Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and
ask for clarification.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395


I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks
like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot
of anything more interesting.

So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update"
section. As best as I can determine.

I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for
more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon).

And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either.

http://connect.microsoft.com/

Paul

Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach
while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify
me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some
light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has
reported home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of
installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some
backported code from a later OS that considers hardware
drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps
that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest
rollup, are not calling up the same updates.

Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing
the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually
presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates
to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not
have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it,
it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with
Windows Update for correction.

Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*,
because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in
existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it.
So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself)
delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news,
to know not to install items like that.

Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com,
it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is
in the INF file of the driver.

The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the
logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be
missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in.

On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not*
label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few
months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed
my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take
care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these
drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation
based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system
is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one
would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of
mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups
after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this
stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support
if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that
I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of
Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising
in them.

Paul

I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update
system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these
strange updates, so far.
Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and
ask for clarification.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395



I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks
like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot
of anything more interesting.

So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update"
section. As best as I can determine.

I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for
more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon).

And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either.

http://connect.microsoft.com/

Paul

Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach
while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light


I have reproduced your symptoms.

I finally got Win7 to present the update list,
and I have three waiting for me. They are
different than yours. One of them is probably
the USB package. A smaller one, I cannot identify
it because the Intel number is 0.0.0.0 and that
cannot possibly be right.

So you are not the only one to see this.

Attempts to click the "More information" link
take you to a dead page on the Microsoft site.
So that doesn't help.

This behavior might be related to one of the
monthly rollups. As I had to install a
rollup to get past the long long WU delay.

Paul

On 28/12/2016 10:28 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify
me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some
light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has
reported home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of
installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some
backported code from a later OS that considers hardware
drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps
that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest
rollup, are not calling up the same updates.

Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing
the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually
presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates
to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not
have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it,
it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with
Windows Update for correction.

Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*,
because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in
existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it.
So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself)
delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news,
to know not to install items like that.

Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com,
it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is
in the INF file of the driver.

The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the
logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be
missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in.

On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not*
label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few
months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed
my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take
care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these
drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation
based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system
is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one
would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of
mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups
after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this
stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support
if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that
I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of
Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising
in them.

Paul

I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update
system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these
strange updates, so far.
Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and
ask for clarification.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395



I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks
like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot
of anything more interesting.

So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update"
section. As best as I can determine.

I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for
more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon).

And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either.

http://connect.microsoft.com/

Paul

Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach
while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light


I have reproduced your symptoms.

I finally got Win7 to present the update list,
and I have three waiting for me. They are
different than yours. One of them is probably
the USB package. A smaller one, I cannot identify
it because the Intel number is 0.0.0.0 and that
cannot possibly be right.

So you are not the only one to see this.

Attempts to click the "More information" link
take you to a dead page on the Microsoft site.
So that doesn't help.

This behavior might be related to one of the
monthly rollups. As I had to install a
rollup to get past the long long WU delay.

Paul
What do we do then -- try to uninstall one of the rollups or .......

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 10:28 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify
me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some
light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has
reported home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of
installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some
backported code from a later OS that considers hardware
drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps
that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest
rollup, are not calling up the same updates.

Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing
the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually
presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates
to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not
have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it,
it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with
Windows Update for correction.

Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*,
because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in
existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it.
So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself)
delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news,
to know not to install items like that.

Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com,
it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is
in the INF file of the driver.

The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the
logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be
missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in.

On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not*
label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few
months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed
my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take
care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these
drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation
based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system
is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one
would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of
mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups
after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this
stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support
if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that
I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of
Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising
in them.

Paul

I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update
system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these
strange updates, so far.
Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and
ask for clarification.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395




I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks
like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot
of anything more interesting.

So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update"
section. As best as I can determine.

I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for
more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon).

And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either.

http://connect.microsoft.com/

Paul

Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach
while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light


I have reproduced your symptoms.

I finally got Win7 to present the update list,
and I have three waiting for me. They are
different than yours. One of them is probably
the USB package. A smaller one, I cannot identify
it because the Intel number is 0.0.0.0 and that
cannot possibly be right.

So you are not the only one to see this.

Attempts to click the "More information" link
take you to a dead page on the Microsoft site.
So that doesn't help.

This behavior might be related to one of the
monthly rollups. As I had to install a
rollup to get past the long long WU delay.

Paul
What do we do then -- try to uninstall one of the rollups or .......


You could.

Since I have Windows Update turned off on Windows 7,
those Optional items won't be installed here. I
installed my rollup as an MSU from catalog.update.microsoft.com .
I could uninstall it, but I doubt in the larger scheme
of things, it would matter.

After the rollup was installed, there was one "security"
update which was a Servicing Stack. I haven't installed
that one. That showed up in Windows Update, after
the December Rollup was installed.

Paul

On 29/12/2016 7:24 AM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 10:28 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify
me)---

Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69

Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some
light on
what it may be.

Hi All,

Two more of these updates arrived this morning --

Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009
Download size: 23 KB
Update type: Optional
Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016


INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38
Download size: 58 KB
Update type: Optional
INTEL System driver update released in October 2016

I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation.

Until then -- they are hidden

Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB?
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Connect Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Intel® Small Business Advantage
Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios.
My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has
reported home
or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization.


I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of
installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some
backported code from a later OS that considers hardware
drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps
that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest
rollup, are not calling up the same updates.

Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing
the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually
presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates
to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not
have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it,
it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with
Windows Update for correction.

Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*,
because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in
existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it.
So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself)
delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news,
to know not to install items like that.

Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com,
it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is
in the INF file of the driver.

The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the
logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be
missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in.

On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not*
label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few
months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed
my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take
care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these
drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation
based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system
is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one
would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of
mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups
after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this
stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support
if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that
I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of
Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising
in them.

Paul

I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update
system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting
these
strange updates, so far.
Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and
ask for clarification.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395




I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks
like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot
of anything more interesting.

So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update"
section. As best as I can determine.

I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for
more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon).

And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience
either.

http://connect.microsoft.com/

Paul

Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach
while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light


I have reproduced your symptoms.

I finally got Win7 to present the update list,
and I have three waiting for me. They are
different than yours. One of them is probably
the USB package. A smaller one, I cannot identify
it because the Intel number is 0.0.0.0 and that
cannot possibly be right.

So you are not the only one to see this.

Attempts to click the "More information" link
take you to a dead page on the Microsoft site.
So that doesn't help.

This behavior might be related to one of the
monthly rollups. As I had to install a
rollup to get past the long long WU delay.

Paul
What do we do then -- try to uninstall one of the rollups or .......


You could.

Since I have Windows Update turned off on Windows 7,
those Optional items won't be installed here. I
installed my rollup as an MSU from catalog.update.microsoft.com .
I could uninstall it, but I doubt in the larger scheme
of things, it would matter.

After the rollup was installed, there was one "security"
update which was a Servicing Stack. I haven't installed
that one. That showed up in Windows Update, after
the December Rollup was installed.

Paul

This morning I checked my wife's Dell Inspiron laptop and it is now
showing two of these intel updates and I am sure that they are different
to the ones on mine.
When I get back to the six computers I maintain where I do some
volunteer work I expect that these weird updates will begin to appear on
them (one has already got one update -- the others were clean) I will
not know until I start on January the 9th 2017. we are in recess at the
moment.
I hope that MS will have fixed the problem by then, or given us an
explanation of what is going on. Surely they must be aware of the
problem by now.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
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