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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some backported code from a later OS that considers hardware drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest rollup, are not calling up the same updates. Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it, it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with Windows Update for correction. Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*, because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it. So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself) delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news, to know not to install items like that. Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com, it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is in the INF file of the driver. The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in. On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not* label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising in them. Paul |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
On 28/12/2016 11:18 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I have "Intel Rapid Storage Technology" installed to monitor my HDD's but that is all. I am not aware of any scan done during authorization. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maurice Helwig ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some backported code from a later OS that considers hardware drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest rollup, are not calling up the same updates. Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it, it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with Windows Update for correction. Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*, because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it. So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself) delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news, to know not to install items like that. Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com, it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is in the INF file of the driver. The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in. On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not* label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising in them. Paul I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these strange updates, so far. Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask for clarification. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maurice Helwig ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some backported code from a later OS that considers hardware drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest rollup, are not calling up the same updates. Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it, it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with Windows Update for correction. Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*, because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it. So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself) delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news, to know not to install items like that. Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com, it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is in the INF file of the driver. The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in. On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not* label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising in them. Paul I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these strange updates, so far. Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask for clarification. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395 I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot of anything more interesting. So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update" section. As best as I can determine. I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon). And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either. http://connect.microsoft.com/ Paul |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some backported code from a later OS that considers hardware drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest rollup, are not calling up the same updates. Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it, it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with Windows Update for correction. Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*, because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it. So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself) delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news, to know not to install items like that. Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com, it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is in the INF file of the driver. The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in. On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not* label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising in them. Paul I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these strange updates, so far. Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask for clarification. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395 I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot of anything more interesting. So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update" section. As best as I can determine. I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon). And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either. http://connect.microsoft.com/ Paul Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maurice Helwig ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some backported code from a later OS that considers hardware drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest rollup, are not calling up the same updates. Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it, it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with Windows Update for correction. Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*, because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it. So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself) delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news, to know not to install items like that. Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com, it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is in the INF file of the driver. The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in. On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not* label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising in them. Paul I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these strange updates, so far. Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask for clarification. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395 I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot of anything more interesting. So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update" section. As best as I can determine. I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon). And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either. http://connect.microsoft.com/ Paul Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light I have reproduced your symptoms. I finally got Win7 to present the update list, and I have three waiting for me. They are different than yours. One of them is probably the USB package. A smaller one, I cannot identify it because the Intel number is 0.0.0.0 and that cannot possibly be right. So you are not the only one to see this. Attempts to click the "More information" link take you to a dead page on the Microsoft site. So that doesn't help. This behavior might be related to one of the monthly rollups. As I had to install a rollup to get past the long long WU delay. Paul |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
On 28/12/2016 10:28 PM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some backported code from a later OS that considers hardware drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest rollup, are not calling up the same updates. Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it, it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with Windows Update for correction. Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*, because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it. So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself) delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news, to know not to install items like that. Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com, it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is in the INF file of the driver. The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in. On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not* label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising in them. Paul I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these strange updates, so far. Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask for clarification. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395 I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot of anything more interesting. So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update" section. As best as I can determine. I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon). And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either. http://connect.microsoft.com/ Paul Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light I have reproduced your symptoms. I finally got Win7 to present the update list, and I have three waiting for me. They are different than yours. One of them is probably the USB package. A smaller one, I cannot identify it because the Intel number is 0.0.0.0 and that cannot possibly be right. So you are not the only one to see this. Attempts to click the "More information" link take you to a dead page on the Microsoft site. So that doesn't help. This behavior might be related to one of the monthly rollups. As I had to install a rollup to get past the long long WU delay. Paul What do we do then -- try to uninstall one of the rollups or ....... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maurice Helwig ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
Maurice Helwig wrote:
On 28/12/2016 10:28 PM, Paul wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some backported code from a later OS that considers hardware drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest rollup, are not calling up the same updates. Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it, it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with Windows Update for correction. Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*, because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it. So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself) delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news, to know not to install items like that. Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com, it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is in the INF file of the driver. The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in. On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not* label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising in them. Paul I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these strange updates, so far. Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask for clarification. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395 I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot of anything more interesting. So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update" section. As best as I can determine. I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon). And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either. http://connect.microsoft.com/ Paul Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light I have reproduced your symptoms. I finally got Win7 to present the update list, and I have three waiting for me. They are different than yours. One of them is probably the USB package. A smaller one, I cannot identify it because the Intel number is 0.0.0.0 and that cannot possibly be right. So you are not the only one to see this. Attempts to click the "More information" link take you to a dead page on the Microsoft site. So that doesn't help. This behavior might be related to one of the monthly rollups. As I had to install a rollup to get past the long long WU delay. Paul What do we do then -- try to uninstall one of the rollups or ....... You could. Since I have Windows Update turned off on Windows 7, those Optional items won't be installed here. I installed my rollup as an MSU from catalog.update.microsoft.com . I could uninstall it, but I doubt in the larger scheme of things, it would matter. After the rollup was installed, there was one "security" update which was a Servicing Stack. I haven't installed that one. That showed up in Windows Update, after the December Rollup was installed. Paul |
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Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69
On 29/12/2016 7:24 AM, Paul wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 10:28 PM, Paul wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 2:08 PM, Paul wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 28/12/2016 12:44 PM, Paul wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:14 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote: Optional update arrived this morning via MS update (Set to notify me)--- Intel - System - 6/26/2016 12.00.00 AM - 14.35.69 Information is unhelpful to say the least. Can anyone shed some light on what it may be. Hi All, Two more of these updates arrived this morning -- Intel - Ports - 6/20/2016 12:00:00 AM - 11.6.0.1009 Download size: 23 KB Update type: Optional Intel Ports driver update released in June 2016 INTEL - System - 10/3/2016 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.1.38 Download size: 58 KB Update type: Optional INTEL System driver update released in October 2016 I wonder when it will stop, or we will get an explanation. Until then -- they are hidden Did you install any of the Intel software that came with the MB? Intel® Rapid Start Technology Intel® Smart Connect Technology Intel® Smart Response Technology Intel® Small Business Advantage Onboard graphics is Intel. EFI bios. My guess is that either the Intel software and/or hardware has reported home or MS did a scan of your computer during authorization. I had another idea, that maybe this is a side effect of installing one of the recent rollups, and it has some backported code from a later OS that considers hardware drivers. And *that* code is selecting these updates. Perhaps that's why people with systems not patched up to the latest rollup, are not calling up the same updates. Using my copy of Lavalys Everest, I would be listing the ACPI objects, and see if the system actually presents "ACPI\INT3F0D". And that causes these updates to appear. If any of the updates coming in, does not have a corresponding PNP identifier that triggered it, it should be reported to a Microsoft forum dealing with Windows Update for correction. Some time ago, a touchpad update was delivered to *everyone*, because the touchpad driver happens to match every HID in existence. It borked keyboards, until Microsoft pulled it. So occasionally the delivery system (and/or the driver itself) delivers rubbish, and you have to spot "trends" in the news, to know not to install items like that. Because these can be looked up on catalog.update.microsoft.com, it should be possible to examine each of them and see what is in the INF file of the driver. The Intel USB driver package in Maurice's list, indicates the logic doing this is wrong, because he cannot possibly be missing USB labels. And these updates should not be coming in. On my Win10 setup, Win10 for the longest while *did not* label anything Intel on my machine properly. I waited a few months, and because Microsoft was not fixing it, installed my own INFINST download from downloadcenter.intel.com to take care of it. So I know that Win10 was "under-cooked" on these drivers. This Win7 response seems to be an over-compensation based on some Win10 mistakes. Since the update delivery system is being migrated as we speak (using code from elsewhere one would presume), it's logical to be seeing these sorts of mistakes. I'm specifically trying to avoid taking Win7 rollups after September on purpose, so I won't be pulling in this stuff or any CEIP materials or Universal Application support if I can help it. There's nothing in the App Store for me that I care about - I have no money for 200,000 copies of Angry Birds :-) Or copies of Solitaire with advertising in them. Paul I am beginning to think that it is a problem at MS with their update system. Only Two of the eight computers I look after are getting these strange updates, so far. Is their anywhere in MS where I can tell them what is happening and ask for clarification. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-f1c4b35b3395 I cannot refine my search any finer than that. It looks like I'd have to log in with an MSA to take a screen shot of anything more interesting. So it would appear they have a "Windows-other" forum and an "Update" section. As best as I can determine. I've never used Answers myself. I try not to use my MSA for more than the minimal functions (Win10 Insider Edition logon). And the "bug reporting" here might not be the intended audience either. http://connect.microsoft.com/ Paul Thanks for your help. I am going to adopt the wait and see approach while hiding the updates until an answer comes to light I have reproduced your symptoms. I finally got Win7 to present the update list, and I have three waiting for me. They are different than yours. One of them is probably the USB package. A smaller one, I cannot identify it because the Intel number is 0.0.0.0 and that cannot possibly be right. So you are not the only one to see this. Attempts to click the "More information" link take you to a dead page on the Microsoft site. So that doesn't help. This behavior might be related to one of the monthly rollups. As I had to install a rollup to get past the long long WU delay. Paul What do we do then -- try to uninstall one of the rollups or ....... You could. Since I have Windows Update turned off on Windows 7, those Optional items won't be installed here. I installed my rollup as an MSU from catalog.update.microsoft.com . I could uninstall it, but I doubt in the larger scheme of things, it would matter. After the rollup was installed, there was one "security" update which was a Servicing Stack. I haven't installed that one. That showed up in Windows Update, after the December Rollup was installed. Paul This morning I checked my wife's Dell Inspiron laptop and it is now showing two of these intel updates and I am sure that they are different to the ones on mine. When I get back to the six computers I maintain where I do some volunteer work I expect that these weird updates will begin to appear on them (one has already got one update -- the others were clean) I will not know until I start on January the 9th 2017. we are in recess at the moment. I hope that MS will have fixed the problem by then, or given us an explanation of what is going on. Surely they must be aware of the problem by now. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maurice Helwig ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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