Update of Windows 10 has messed up video

I have a homebrew computer based on the Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
motherboard, which I updated from Win7Pro to Win10Pro. Windows 10 update
originally told me that the machine was compatible with Windows 10, and
indeed everything was fine until some recent update, which occurred
automatically while the machine was powered up but not in use.

Yesterday I discovered that only part of the desktop was showing, but
with over-sized icons and not filling the screen. I was unable to set
the display to anything better than 1280 x 1024, whereas it had
previously been set to 1920 x 1280.

The video driver is Microsoft Basic Display Driver, which it says is the
latest available.

AMD says the Radeon 4000 series of video chips is not supported on
Windows 10, but in fact the video was fine until very recently.

Any alternative to disabling the on-board video and installing a more
recent separate video card? Can I find a video driver that will work and
somehow force it to install on Win10?

Perce

On 12/04/2017 09:57 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
I have a homebrew computer based on the Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
motherboard, which I updated from Win7Pro to Win10Pro. Windows 10 update
originally told me that the machine was compatible with Windows 10, and
indeed everything was fine until some recent update, which occurred
automatically while the machine was powered up but not in use.

Yesterday I discovered that only part of the desktop was showing, but
with over-sized icons and not filling the screen. I was unable to set
the display to anything better than 1280 x 1024, whereas it had
previously been set to 1920 x 1280.

The video driver is Microsoft Basic Display Driver, which it says is the
latest available.

AMD says the Radeon 4000 series of video chips is not supported on
Windows 10, but in fact the video was fine until very recently.

Any alternative to disabling the on-board video and installing a more
recent separate video card? Can I find a video driver that will work and
somehow force it to install on Win10?

Perce



If you can figure out which update did that , you can try to uninstall it

From a Google search I found this:

Tap on the Windows-key on your keyboard and type remove a program.
Select the result add or remove programs from the list of search
results.
This opens a Windows Control Panel window which lists all installed
programs on the system.
Select view installed updates on the left side of the window.



Next , disable driver updating

https://www.howtogeek.com/263851/how...ecific-drivers

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:57:06 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

I have a homebrew computer based on the Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
motherboard, which I updated from Win7Pro to Win10Pro. Windows 10 update
originally told me that the machine was compatible with Windows 10, and
indeed everything was fine until some recent update, which occurred
automatically while the machine was powered up but not in use.

Yesterday I discovered that only part of the desktop was showing, but
with over-sized icons and not filling the screen. I was unable to set
the display to anything better than 1280 x 1024, whereas it had
previously been set to 1920 x 1280.

The video driver is Microsoft Basic Display Driver, which it says is the
latest available.

AMD says the Radeon 4000 series of video chips is not supported on
Windows 10, but in fact the video was fine until very recently.

Any alternative to disabling the on-board video and installing a more
recent separate video card? Can I find a video driver that will work and
somehow force it to install on Win10?

I wouldn't rely on Windows 10's statement that it's the latest driver.
I'd use something like Driver Reviver to find the latest _good_ driver
for the hardware and install it or venture onto the AMD site and see
if there is _anything_ that can be used to give it proper support in
Windows 10.

If it worked, it will work.

On 12/04/2017 11:14 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:57:06 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

I have a homebrew computer based on the Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
motherboard, which I updated from Win7Pro to Win10Pro. Windows 10 update
originally told me that the machine was compatible with Windows 10, and
indeed everything was fine until some recent update, which occurred
automatically while the machine was powered up but not in use.

Yesterday I discovered that only part of the desktop was showing, but
with over-sized icons and not filling the screen. I was unable to set
the display to anything better than 1280 x 1024, whereas it had
previously been set to 1920 x 1280.

The video driver is Microsoft Basic Display Driver, which it says is the
latest available.

AMD says the Radeon 4000 series of video chips is not supported on
Windows 10, but in fact the video was fine until very recently.

Any alternative to disabling the on-board video and installing a more
recent separate video card? Can I find a video driver that will work and
somehow force it to install on Win10?

I wouldn't rely on Windows 10's statement that it's the latest driver.
I'd use something like Driver Reviver to find the latest _good_ driver
for the hardware and install it or venture onto the AMD site and see
if there is _anything_ that can be used to give it proper support in
Windows 10.

If it worked, it will work.


Iwould try Radeon Crimson 15.12 available from AMD and see if that cures it.

Rene

On 04/12/2017 15:57, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
I have a homebrew computer based on the Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
motherboard, which I updated from Win7Pro to Win10Pro. Windows 10 update
originally told me that the machine was compatible with Windows 10, and
indeed everything was fine until some recent update, which occurred
automatically while the machine was powered up but not in use.

Yesterday I discovered that only part of the desktop was showing, but
with over-sized icons and not filling the screen. I was unable to set
the display to anything better than 1280 x 1024, whereas it had
previously been set to 1920 x 1280.

The video driver is Microsoft Basic Display Driver, which it says is the
latest available.

AMD says the Radeon 4000 series of video chips is not supported on
Windows 10, but in fact the video was fine until very recently.

Any alternative to disabling the on-board video and installing a more
recent separate video card? Can I find a video driver that will work and
somehow force it to install on Win10?

Perce

See technet ? It's a long thread but it tells you how to revert to the
old (working) driver.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...in10itprosetup

Joskin

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
I have a homebrew computer based on the Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
motherboard, which I updated from Win7Pro to Win10Pro. Windows 10 update
originally told me that the machine was compatible with Windows 10, and
indeed everything was fine until some recent update, which occurred
automatically while the machine was powered up but not in use.

Yesterday I discovered that only part of the desktop was showing, but
with over-sized icons and not filling the screen. I was unable to set
the display to anything better than 1280 x 1024, whereas it had
previously been set to 1920 x 1280.

The video driver is Microsoft Basic Display Driver, which it says is the
latest available.

AMD says the Radeon 4000 series of video chips is not supported on
Windows 10, but in fact the video was fine until very recently.

Any alternative to disabling the on-board video and installing a more
recent separate video card? Can I find a video driver that will work and
somehow force it to install on Win10?

Perce

The Microsoft Basic Display Adapter is the equivalent
of the in-box VESA driver in the older OSes. It is *not*
a driver in the sense you're thinking of - it doesn't
support "acceleration" and is a basic frame buffer mapping
so that pixels drawn in the frame buffer, show up. It's the
"driver when nobody seems to care" :-)

One difference is, in WinXP, we were treated to 800x600
or 640x480 resolution on the VESA driver. And the VESA standards
don't even like to support some of the newer aspect ratios.
Don't expect to find 1440x900 in a VESA-based table.
VESA tends to like 4:3 and 5:4. And it doesn't like
really high resolution choices, because of the
damaged non-multisync CRT monitor fiasco 25 years ago.

On Windows 10, 1024x768 is supposed to be what the MBDA
supports. I've not seen reports of it doing "native"
resolution on monitors.

The Crimson CCC2 isn't likely to support old video cards.

ATI/AMD drivers, the download page usually has a list of
supported cards or GPUs (if you were trying to fix this
yourself).

At one time, a couple of the video card packages supported
a "custom resolution" box for entering non-default values.
If you managed to get native resolution, maybe you were
actually running a non-Crimson ATI CCC driver from 2015,
that happened to support your card. And then, at some point,
the stupid "driver updater", tried to change the driver
and broke something. My Insider Edition is constantly
popping up that dialog, and I dismiss it, because I know
there is nothing for it to be downloading. And, I don't
want it to try, either. Only bad things can happen,
from the attempt.

I don't know if you can use the "driver rollback" button,
after certain system updates, to discover if there
is actually an ATI driver previously in usage. The
original ATI CCC driver that Win10 10240 installed,
it used to throw some errors in Event Viewer, which
is one reason I hunted down a better driver. Just to make
it stop with the errors. If the OS version was updated
(like the 16299.15 OS upgrade), then you can't roll
back the driver to whatever was there in the previous
OS version. When the OS version changes, the Windows.old
would have the old driver in it, and the C:\Windows
has whatever they decided to use during the upgrade.

*******

Whoa, the recipe for something that old is
pretty tricksy. It makes me wonder what you've
been running all this time.

https://community.amd.com/thread/186846

https://community.amd.com/thread/184967

There's a 13.4 beta. Too bad there wasn't a button
you could click to "show latest". When I found a
beta Crimson driver, I found it purely by accident
when "wandering around" in here :-) The search engine
on the site didn't actually find the driver I eventually
used.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/downloa...s%208%20-%2064

Paul

On 12/04/2017 11:57 AM, philo wrote:
On 12/04/2017 09:57 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
I have a homebrew computer based on the Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
motherboard, which I updated from Win7Pro to Win10Pro. Windows 10
update originally told me that the machine was compatible with Windows
10, and indeed everything was fine until some recent update, which
occurred automatically while the machine was powered up but not in use.

Yesterday I discovered that only part of the desktop was showing, but
with over-sized icons and not filling the screen. I was unable to set
the display to anything better than 1280 x 1024, whereas it had
previously been set to 1920 x 1280.

The video driver is Microsoft Basic Display Driver, which it says is
the latest available.

AMD says the Radeon 4000 series of video chips is not supported on
Windows 10, but in fact the video was fine until very recently.

Any alternative to disabling the on-board video and installing a more
recent separate video card? Can I find a video driver that will work
and somehow force it to install on Win10?

Perce



If you can figure out which update did that , you can try to uninstall it

From a Google search I found this:

Â*Â*Â* Tap on the Windows-key on your keyboard and type remove a program.
Â*Â*Â* Select the result add or remove programs from the list of search
results.
Â*Â*Â* This opens a Windows Control Panel window which lists all installed
programs on the system.
Â*Â*Â* Select view installed updates on the left side of the window.



Next , disable driver updating

https://www.howtogeek.com/263851/how...ecific-drivers

Thanks to all who responded.

I was able to install the 8.9.... driver from 2015 without backing out
the recent Windows update, and I have followed the howtogeek
instructions to prevent that driver being updated in future. Time will tell.

Perce

On 12/5/2017 10:23 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 12/04/2017 11:57 AM, philo wrote:
On 12/04/2017 09:57 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
I have a homebrew computer based on the Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
motherboard, which I updated from Win7Pro to Win10Pro. Windows 10
update originally told me that the machine was compatible with
Windows 10, and indeed everything was fine until some recent update,
which occurred automatically while the machine was powered up but not
in use.

Yesterday I discovered that only part of the desktop was showing, but
with over-sized icons and not filling the screen. I was unable to set
the display to anything better than 1280 x 1024, whereas it had
previously been set to 1920 x 1280.

The video driver is Microsoft Basic Display Driver, which it says is
the latest available.

AMD says the Radeon 4000 series of video chips is not supported on
Windows 10, but in fact the video was fine until very recently.

Any alternative to disabling the on-board video and installing a more
recent separate video card? Can I find a video driver that will work
and somehow force it to install on Win10?

Perce



If you can figure out which update did that , you can try to uninstall it

Â*From a Google search I found this:

Â*Â*Â*Â* Tap on the Windows-key on your keyboard and type remove a program.
Â*Â*Â*Â* Select the result add or remove programs from the list of search
results.
Â*Â*Â*Â* This opens a Windows Control Panel window which lists all
installed programs on the system.
Â*Â*Â*Â* Select view installed updates on the left side of the window.



Next , disable driver updating

https://www.howtogeek.com/263851/how...ecific-drivers


Thanks to all who responded.

I was able to install the 8.9.... driver from 2015 without backing out
the recent Windows update, and I have followed the howtogeek
instructions to prevent that driver being updated in future. Time will
tell.

Perce






Excellent news!