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DO NOT use any of these Operating Systems
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/24/2017 5:54 PM, XS11E wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 6/23/2017 7:43 PM, XS11E wrote: wrote: DO NOT use any of these Operating Systems. They are all dangerous and attract viruses and other malware. DO NOT use any of these: Microsoft Windows (all versions) Linux (all versions and distros) Android (all versions) Unix (all types and versions) Mac OS (all versions) BSD (all releases) OS/2 (all versions) Oh, my gosh, I don't want to use a dangerous OS and attract viruses and other malware! What OS do you recommend, please? Hands down, The Babbage Engine Good answer but I need to hear from "lfdgjsacg" as he/she/it has established him/her/itself as the foremost OS expert in the known universe and golly gee we need to hear from the BEST, right? Absolutely, Inquiring minds need to Know. :-) By the way the Babbage engine needs no "lectricity" Rene Well, you know geeks just cannot leave well enough alone. This mockup has a power strip right next to it. Cheaters!!! http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/index.html The video is a masterpiece. 233MB. There is no hand on the crank. I think this one has been overclocked. http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/Movie2.mpg I wonder when the Windows Defender scan runs on that... Paul |
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In message , Paul
writes: Rene Lamontagne wrote: [] Absolutely, Inquiring minds need to Know. :-) By the way the Babbage engine needs no "lectricity" Rene Well, you know geeks just cannot leave well enough alone. This mockup has a power strip right next to it. Cheaters!!! Well, the short video does show someone hand cranking it; I presume they'd just added a motor so the inventor/constructor didn't get tired out cranking it all day! http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/index.html The video is a masterpiece. 233MB. There is no hand on the crank. I think this one has been overclocked. http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/Movie2.mpg There is a shorter (23M) video at http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/DSCN43.avi, which was sufficiently captivating that I'm now going for the big one ... I wonder when the Windows Defender scan runs on that... (-: Paul John -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A dishwasher is rubbish at making treacle sponge. - Marjorie in UMRA, 2017-1-15 |
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On 6/25/2017 6:45 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul writes: Rene Lamontagne wrote: [] Absolutely, Inquiring minds need to Know. :-) By the way the Babbage engine needs no "lectricity" Rene Well, you know geeks just cannot leave well enough alone. This mockup has a power strip right next to it. Cheaters!!! Well, the short video does show someone hand cranking it; I presume they'd just added a motor so the inventor/constructor didn't get tired out cranking it all day! http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/index.html The video is a masterpiece. 233MB. There is no hand on the crank. I think this one has been overclocked. http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/Movie2.mpg There is a shorter (23M) video at http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/DSCN43.avi, which was sufficiently captivating that I'm now going for the big one ... I wonder when the Windows Defender scan runs on that... (-: Paul John Beautiful work, I had A few small Meccano sets when I was young, Spent many wonderful hours designing and building stuff. There would be no Lack of UPS power , Should be plenty of UPS type lads hanging around that project. :-) Rene |
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On 6/25/2017 9:56 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/25/2017 6:45 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Paul writes: Rene Lamontagne wrote: [] Absolutely, Inquiring minds need to Know. :-) By the way the Babbage engine needs no "lectricity" Rene Well, you know geeks just cannot leave well enough alone. This mockup has a power strip right next to it. Cheaters!!! Well, the short video does show someone hand cranking it; I presume they'd just added a motor so the inventor/constructor didn't get tired out cranking it all day! http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/index.html The video is a masterpiece. 233MB. There is no hand on the crank. I think this one has been overclocked. http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/Movie2.mpg There is a shorter (23M) video at http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/DSCN43.avi, which was sufficiently captivating that I'm now going for the big one ... I wonder when the Windows Defender scan runs on that... (-: Paul John Beautiful work, I had A few small Meccano sets when I was young, Spent many wonderful hours designing and building stuff. There would be no Lack of UPS power , Should be plenty of UPS type lads hanging around that project. :-) Rene Available for crank turning! :-) Rene |
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On 6/25/2017 1:43 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-25 01:02, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 6/24/2017 5:54 PM, XS11E wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 6/23/2017 7:43 PM, XS11E wrote: wrote: DO NOT use any of these Operating Systems. They are all dangerous and attract viruses and other malware. DO NOT use any of these: Microsoft Windows (all versions) Linux (all versions and distros) Android (all versions) Unix (all types and versions) Mac OS (all versions) BSD (all releases) OS/2 (all versions) Oh, my gosh, I don't want to use a dangerous OS and attract viruses and other malware! What OS do you recommend, please? Hands down, The Babbage Engine Good answer but I need to hear from "lfdgjsacg" as he/she/it has established him/her/itself as the foremost OS expert in the known universe and golly gee we need to hear from the BEST, right? Absolutely, Inquiring minds need to Know. :-) By the way the Babbage engine needs no "lectricity" Rene Well, you know geeks just cannot leave well enough alone. This mockup has a power strip right next to it. Cheaters!!! http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/index.html The video is a masterpiece. 233MB. There is no hand on the crank. I think this one has been overclocked. http://www.meccano.us/difference_eng...e_2/Movie2.mpg I wonder when the Windows Defender scan runs on that... Paul TVO ran a documentary on Ada Lovelace. Babbage's demo model was hand cranked. He never got to build the full-size one. There's a segment on a full size model. Available until Thursday, June 29th 2017. http://tvo.org/video/documentaries/c...s-of-computing Enjoy! Thanks Wolf,Very Interesting story, very informative, Amazing how he was able to invent such a complicated Mechanism and know all the Math to go with it in that early time period. Rene |
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 14:15:39 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote: En el artículo , Carl Kaufmann escribió: You mean VMS. Did I? Ooops, yes, probably. It was late o'clock in the morning, it was hot and I was sloppy. Sorry. And thank you. I wouldn't mind using it again. Unfortunately you can't even get it from HP anymore, afaik. Buy a cheap, old "supercomputer". There's bound to be a few running around. Then spend Apollo-projecty budgets trying to port the OS from that onto a modern box when there is exactly zero connection in common, not even floppies. It could be fun. wrong. http://h41379.www4.hpe.com/openvms/p.../download.html Making it easy is *cheating*. and it's being ported to Intel: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/1...owly_towards_x 86/ And that is *seriously* cheating. Interlocking incompatibles is supposed to involve heads down in the crawl-spaces under the raised flooring, standing on ladders hacking the wiring while forced air does rude stuff with skirts and languages that are expressive, short and mainly obsolete. Lost tools and loud bangs as the data centre goes dark are just added excitements. Thank you for the linkys, and the memories. The comments on ElReg's article are well worth a read if your computer experience started with Mr Babbage's Engines or earlier. Is it strange and sad that I understand the comments? Mand. |
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 14:12:09 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote: En el artículo , Martin Edwards escribió: Thanks, that's very helpful. He didn't mention DOS, so that must be OK. To be fair, he did mention *all* versions of "Windows". As DOS is just Windows without the Windows, we really should conclude that DOS is *almost* as dangerous as Windows but not quite. Or at least we should until the Universe's greatest expert, the original poster, comes back to reveal more of his One True Truth. Assuming DOS is safe could be *dangerous*. We need his expert knowledge to guide us. Anyway, one needs to ask: which DOS? There were a few. Mand. |
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On 2017-06-23, wrote:
DO NOT use any of these Operating Systems. They are all dangerous and attract viruses and other malware. DO NOT use any of these: ... I am relieved to see that TOPS-20, RSX11M, VMS, RSTS, and RT-11 are not on the list. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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[snip] Anyway, one needs to ask: which DOS? A version without networking? There were a few. Mand. |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 09:56:13 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote: Beautiful work, I had A few small Meccano sets when I was young, Spent many wonderful hours designing and building stuff. My first thought: Meccano?? Surely you mean Erector Set? Then I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meccano Last thought: Nope, you really do mean Meccano. :-) When I was a kid, my siblings and I got *two* complete Erector Sets one Christmas. What a blast! Endless hours of fun. The only problems came when one kid built something so cool that he wanted to save it, but another kid needed to tear it down for parts to build the next cool thing. -- Char Jackson |
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On 6/26/2017 9:11 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 09:56:13 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: Beautiful work, I had A few small Meccano sets when I was young, Spent many wonderful hours designing and building stuff. My first thought: Meccano?? Surely you mean Erector Set? Then I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meccano Last thought: Nope, you really do mean Meccano. :-) When I was a kid, my siblings and I got *two* complete Erector Sets one Christmas. What a blast! Endless hours of fun. The only problems came when one kid built something so cool that he wanted to save it, but another kid needed to tear it down for parts to build the next cool thing. Yep they where real learning tools and loved by many. Rene |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 09:56:13 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: Beautiful work, I had A few small Meccano sets when I was young, Spent many wonderful hours designing and building stuff. My first thought: Meccano?? Surely you mean Erector Set? I had samples of both as a kid. They each have their plusses and minuses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meccano "[Meccano] is now manufactured in France and China by Meccano S.N. of France, part of the Canadian Spin Master toy company." "After August 2015, the Erector brand was relaunched under the global brand name Meccano." Which likely means, the product is unrecognizable to anyone our age. Paul |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 09:11:27 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 09:56:13 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: Beautiful work, I had A few small Meccano sets when I was young, Spent many wonderful hours designing and building stuff. My first thought: Meccano?? Surely you mean Erector Set? Then I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meccano Last thought: Nope, you really do mean Meccano. :-) When I was a kid, my siblings and I got *two* complete Erector Sets one Christmas. What a blast! Endless hours of fun. The only problems came when one kid built something so cool that he wanted to save it, but another kid needed to tear it down for parts to build the next cool thing. When I was a kid, I had a big erector set. I remember liking it a lot. When my son was a kid, he had a medium-sized Meccano set. I remember nothing about the details, but I do remember thinking that it was considerably better than my erector set was. Or maybe it was my grandson who had the Meccano. I'm not sure. |
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Sam E news:5I%3B.50114$741.17398
@fx29.iad Mon, 26 Jun 2017 04:03:13 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: [snip] Anyway, one needs to ask: which DOS? A version without networking? Er, no. DOS could infact 'network' And, uhh, DOS isn't Windows. -- https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php If at first you don't succeed, you must be a programmer. |
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Wolf K
Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:27:40 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: On 2017-06-27 17:18, Diesel wrote: Sam E news:5I%3B.50114$741.17398 @fx29.iad Mon, 26 Jun 2017 04:03:13 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: [snip] Anyway, one needs to ask: which DOS? A version without networking? Er, no. DOS could infact 'network' And, uhh, DOS isn't Windows. Up to Win 6.x, Windows was just a fancy menu system running on their DOS, which they called MSDOS. There were several better DOS than MSDOS. I liked DrDOS alot myself.. but, it wasn't for everybody. And, I think you meant win3.x/9x and me, right? [g] Windows was a little more than a fancy menu system. it invoked time slicing so to a certain extint, running multiple programs at what you thought was the same time was possible. -- https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php "Take off lid and push up bottom." (From a stick deodorant label) |
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