speaking of "issues" - wordpad "unable to create new document"

Windows has done it again: broken a perfectly functional program.

Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista because
well, The New And Improved Version which came with Windows 7 suffers
from Microsoft's feeping creaerism and feature bloat.
But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
popup.

Any suggestions for fixing this? Or installing a small program
which does what Wordpad did (handle rtf files, without the ribbon,
without the default proprietary font*, etc)?

Nerts - I don't have time for this.

tschus
pyotr






*yeah, "proprietary - MS is the only company which uses this, and the
default font can not be changed.
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
Windows has done it again: broken a perfectly functional program.

Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista because
well, The New And Improved Version which came with Windows 7 suffers
from Microsoft's feeping creaerism and feature bloat.
But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
popup.

Any suggestions for fixing this? Or installing a small program
which does what Wordpad did (handle rtf files, without the ribbon,
without the default proprietary font*, etc)?

Nerts - I don't have time for this.

tschus
pyotr

*yeah, "proprietary - MS is the only company which uses this, and the
default font can not be changed.

1) You can use Sysinternals Process Monitor, to watch what file system
operations your transplanted program is making.

2) If you do Properties on the transplanted executable, you could
check to see whether it has a Compatibility menu, so you can select
a different OS version for compatibility while it runs in Win7.

3) You could install LibreOffice, as it's more likely to munch on
an RTF file. I haven't tested this. LibreOffice tends to steal
file associations, and can break some of your other Microsoft
tools (WordViewer docx translation). Test in a VM, to keep your
main OS clean initially...

HTH,
Paul

"pyotr filipivich" wrote

| Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista....
| But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
| program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
|

You mean you just copied over the EXE?
Wild guess: There could be a richedit conflict.
Wordpad/Write are basically a simple front-end
for the Microsoft RichEdit window which handles
RTF text. RichEdit dates back to at least Win98
and has come out in a number of versions, with
a number of file names. This is part of the story,
but it's out of date:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...=vs.85%29.aspx

I think there have also been versions that only
came with MS Office. There was even a version
with NT4 that was the same file and version as
the one for 98 and the two would break if they
were in the wrong place. The only way to tell the
difference was by file size!

RichEdit is the consummate DLL Hell.

Given all that, it's worth checking what it expects
and whether it's finding that DLL. I'd run Process
Explorer, then start Wordpad and see if it runs into
a problem.

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
...

Windows has done it again: broken a perfectly functional program.

Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista because
well, The New And Improved Version which came with Windows 7 suffers
from Microsoft's feeping creaerism and feature bloat.
But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
popup.

Any suggestions for fixing this?

emacs has many merits, once you get used to it. The Borland
Sprint emulation was best.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

On 18/07/2017 17:06, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Windows has done it again: broken a perfectly functional program.

Never had such stupid generalization for a very long time until
today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista because
well,
This is what idiots do. Copy from a system that has nothing to do with
Windows 7 or later versions.


The New And Improved Version which came with Windows 7 suffers
from Microsoft's feeping creaerism and feature bloat.
Only if it is used by an idiot.


But neither version work.
are you surprised? How can a vista version work in Win7?


The program called wordpad, and the
program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"

Then you should seek advice about how to fix this. You can't do it by
copying something from Vista or WinXP.



Any suggestions for fixing this?

Yes. Remove that copied file and then create a new profile in 7 and then
launch WordPad that originally came with 7 to see if it works. the new
profile is virgin and so unlikely to be corrupted by you.




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In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-07-18 12:06, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Windows has done it again: broken a perfectly functional
program.
Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista because
well, The New And Improved Version which came with Windows 7 suffers
from Microsoft's feeping creaerism and feature bloat.
But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
popup.
Any suggestions for fixing this? Or installing a small program
which does what Wordpad did (handle rtf files, without the ribbon,
without the default proprietary font*, etc)?
Nerts - I don't have time for this.
tschus
pyotr

I occasionally use Editpad Lite for plaintext.


He wasn't talking about plaintext (I use NotePad+ for that): me
mentioned WordPad, not NotePad.
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Less rules means fewer grammar? - Marjorie in UMRA, 2014-1-28 13:14

"Wolf K" wrote

| This may be what OP wants:
|
| https://quilljs.com/
|
|
| Or this:
|
|
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-...t-Editor.shtml
|

There seems to be a misunderstanding. RichText
is Microsoft's RTF format. It's a specific file format.
Wordpad and Write are compiled programs that
wrap a RichEdit window, which is a standard Microsoft
Windows component for handling RTF text.

"Rich Text" also seems to be a term that's become
used for any implementation of editor functionality
in a webpage, allowing one to add formatting, colors,
etc via HTML.

You seem to be finding the latter while he's looking
for the former.

Wolf K on Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:34:09 -0400 typed
in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 2017-07-18 12:06, pyotr filipivich wrote:

[...]
Any suggestions for fixing this? Or installing a small program
which does what Wordpad did (handle rtf files, without the ribbon,
without the default proprietary font*, etc)?

Nerts - I don't have time for this.

I occasionally use Editpad Lite for plaintext.
Will check that out.

I use Notepad for editing batch files. the RTF has too many ...
"features" which confuse the command lines.
I use Wordpad (old model) for cutting and pasting text from a
browser, to save the pretty formatting (bold, italics, and other).

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"Mayayana" on Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:34:16
-0400 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"Wolf K" wrote

| This may be what OP wants:
|
| https://quilljs.com/
|
|
| Or this:
|
|
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-...t-Editor.shtml
|

There seems to be a misunderstanding. RichText
is Microsoft's RTF format. It's a specific file format.
Wordpad and Write are compiled programs that
wrap a RichEdit window, which is a standard Microsoft
Windows component for handling RTF text.

"Rich Text" also seems to be a term that's become
used for any implementation of editor functionality
in a webpage, allowing one to add formatting, colors,
etc via HTML.

You seem to be finding the latter while he's looking
for the former.

Umm, yeah.
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Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

"Don Phillipson" on Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:54:20
-0400 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
.. .

Windows has done it again: broken a perfectly functional program.

Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista because
well, The New And Improved Version which came with Windows 7 suffers
from Microsoft's feeping creaerism and feature bloat.
But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
popup.

Any suggestions for fixing this?

emacs has many merits, once you get used to it. The Borland
Sprint emulation was best.

yes. I remember emacs from "back in the day" I'd just started
poking about with it, when the shell account went away.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

"Mayayana" on Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:18:26
-0400 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote

| Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista....
| But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
| program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
|

You mean you just copied over the EXE?

Yep

Wild guess: There could be a richedit conflict.
Wordpad/Write are basically a simple front-end
for the Microsoft RichEdit window which handles
RTF text. RichEdit dates back to at least Win98
and has come out in a number of versions, with
a number of file names. This is part of the story,
but it's out of date:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...=vs.85%29.aspx

I think there have also been versions that only
came with MS Office. There was even a version
with NT4 that was the same file and version as
the one for 98 and the two would break if they
were in the wrong place. The only way to tell the
difference was by file size!

RichEdit is the consummate DLL Hell.

Given all that, it's worth checking what it expects
and whether it's finding that DLL. I'd run Process
Explorer, then start Wordpad and see if it runs into
a problem.

Thanks.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 09:06:06 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Windows has done it again: broken a perfectly functional program.

Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista because
well, The New And Improved Version which came with Windows 7 suffers
from Microsoft's feeping creaerism and feature bloat.
But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
popup.

Any suggestions for fixing this? Or installing a small program
which does what Wordpad did (handle rtf files, without the ribbon,
without the default proprietary font*, etc)?

Nerts - I don't have time for this.

tschus
pyotr

*yeah, "proprietary - MS is the only company which uses this, and the
default font can not be changed.

My guess is that you're not copying the "wordpad.exe.mui" too, which is
stored in other folder.

Try using the 32-bit version of the Wordpad from Vista. i.e. copy the one
from the "Program Files (x86)" instead of "Program Files" folder from Vista.
I don't have 64-bit version of Vista, but it works this way. FYI, I'm using
the one from Windows XP (32-bit), instead of Vista.

"Wolf K" wrote

| Interesting, didn't know the history of RTF. For me, "rich text" is an
| *.rtf file. Any wordprocessor I've used could/can read an *.rtf file.
|
It surprised me, too. Microsoft RTF and the "rich
text" term go back a long way. It looks like the Linux
people may have come up with the same term by
accident, using it to describe font options in a textbox.
But what really surprised me was that the Microsoft
version is not the popular version when I do a search.

So plain text is what goes into a webpage text field,
while rich text is HTML-wrapped text with font
family/color/weight/size options, created dynamically
using script in a webpage.

JJ on Wed, 19 Jul 2017 17:21:21 +0700 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 09:06:06 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Windows has done it again: broken a perfectly functional program.

Wordpad in this instance. I 'ported' a copy from Vista because
well, The New And Improved Version which came with Windows 7 suffers
from Microsoft's feeping creaerism and feature bloat.
But neither version work. The program called wordpad, and the
program called write - both give that "Unable to Create New Document"
popup.

Any suggestions for fixing this? Or installing a small program
which does what Wordpad did (handle rtf files, without the ribbon,
without the default proprietary font*, etc)?

Nerts - I don't have time for this.

tschus
pyotr

*yeah, "proprietary - MS is the only company which uses this, and the
default font can not be changed.

My guess is that you're not copying the "wordpad.exe.mui" too, which is
stored in other folder.

I did and I had. And it was all working fine up till Tuesday.

Microsquish if full of geeks who work _on_ the computer. None of
whom seem to use the computer to do their work. So screwing around
with the interface isn't a real bother to them.
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:38:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote:

I did and I had. And it was all working fine up till Tuesday.

Must be the recent Windows "update" which Reddit users were flustered about.