Restore Image

I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7
computer. My question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win
10 and install the Aomei software and then "restore" my latest Win 7
image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win 10 with my Win 7
image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!

al wrote:
I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7
computer. My question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win
10 and install the Aomei software and then "restore" my latest Win 7
image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win 10 with my Win 7
image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!

Won't work, sorry.

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Z

On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:52:40 -0400, al wrote:

I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7
computer. My question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win
10 and install the Aomei software and then "restore" my latest Win 7
image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win 10 with my Win 7
image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!

You can certainly 'restore' the image of the old PC's HD and overwrite the
new one with it - it's often referred to as 'cloning', BTW - but for
various reasons it may not be wise to do so:

:-? As the new PC's HD is almost certainly a different model
and capacity than the original, your cloning software as part of the
restore process must allow you to resize the partitions from the original
image to fit the new HD.

:-( It always used to be the case, and I suspect still is,
that when Windows is installed on a PC, a boot system is installed
specific to that PC's hardware, and cloning one system's HD image onto
that of another with a different chipset may result in an unbootable
image. This may be easily fixed by inserting the W7 installation DVD and
doing a boot repair, or it may not.

:-( If the original PC had an OEM W7 installation - that is
to say that it was supplied with W7 already installed on it, probably with
a licence sticker on the underside or back of the PC - then that W7
licence cannot be legally transferred to a different PC, so the cloned
image will never authenticate. Even if you have a full non-OEM licence,
you will have to unauthenticate the original PC before trying to
authenticate the new one, and if/when you sell on the old PC, it will no
longer have a valid W7 licence.

Whatever you choose to do, use your cloning software to back up the new
PC's HD before doing anything drastic and irreversible.

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On 09/24/2016 10:59 AM, Z wrote:
al wrote:
I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7
computer. My question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win
10 and install the Aomei software and then "restore" my latest Win 7
image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win 10 with my Win 7
image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!

Won't work, sorry.

As Java said, hardware is wrong. Chipset drivers etc are all wrong
(most likely).

al wrote:
I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7 computer. My
question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win 10 and install the Aomei software
and then "restore" my latest Win 7 image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win
10 with my Win 7 image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!

Probably wont work. Bios' are likely different (BIOS vs. AHCI vs. EUFI),
disk sizes are different, drivers, etc.
If it did try then the new comp will most likely end up dead.
Also, we don't know what partitions you imaged.

"al" wrote

|I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7
| computer. My question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win
| 10 and install the Aomei software and then "restore" my latest Win 7
| image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win 10 with my Win 7
| image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!

This was discussed recently. First, remove the
disk drivers and allow Windows to install generic.
Then make an image of that. Next, on Win10,
make an image in case the whole thing doesn't
work.

At that point you should be able to do it, but there
are two more issues:

1) The Win10 hardware (motherboard, graphics, audio,
ethernet) may not have Win7 dirvers. You'll need to
check on that in advance.

2) The Dell install depends on a Dell ID on the motherboard.
Without that it's probably going to demand activation.
Microsoft claims that use is illegal, as they only license
OEM Windows for the machine it comes on. So that could
be tricky.

Far better would be to buy/build a barebones box and
buy a copy of Win7 to put on it. By doing so you also
become one of the very few people who actually
understands how much extra money Microsoft is making
with product activation. It's not cheap to buy a disk.
But you can still get it. (I was going to post a link
to buycheapsoftware.com, where I've bought disks
several times, but the page tried to redirect me to
doubleclick.net and won't load directly! Nevertheless,
if you search for "buy Windows 7" you'll find plenty of
sources.)

al wrote:
I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7
computer. My question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win
10 and install the Aomei software and then "restore" my latest Win 7
image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win 10 with my Win 7
image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!

When you move a Linux OS from one computer to another,
it has a whole set of drivers ready to go. Most of the
time, it boots no problem.

If you move a Windows OS, there are two issues:

1) License key and activation status. The transferred
OS may "freeze instantly", a symptom of the worst-case
activation behavior. The OS checks the hardware and
"knows it has been moved". In some cases, you see a
dialog telling you to "fix it in 72 hours or else".
But I've also had cases where it froze and
"that's all she wrote". No further triage was possible.
On Win2K, which didn't have this kind of activation
check, you could move it all over the place :-)

2) Drivers. You at least want the OS image to have a driver
for the disk port setting on the new computer. For example,
WinXP doesn't have native AHCI support, so if you plugged
WinXP into a foreign computer set to "AHCI", you'd expect
to get a blue screen and an "Inaccessible boot volume"
message.

So those are the limitations.

Fixing this would be a challenge. Especially if you expected
everything in the OS to be preserved.

If you bought a new Dell Business machine with Win10 downgrade
rights, it might be able to run a Dell Win7 image from another
computer. The Dell Business machine would need to have both
a Win10 MSDM license key in the BIOS, as well as a Dell SLIC
table to validate your transported Win7 image. And the image
would still need sufficient drivers for the job. Both
the old and the new machines might have AHCI for example,
and it might actually start to boot. But the period of time
where Windows 7 can legally be activated in this way is
closing. As Microsoft sales of Win7 stop October 2016. And
that may restrict what items can be in the Dell Business
machine BIOS tables (maybe only the MSDM would be legal
and the SLIC would have to be ditched).

You've picked an especially late point in the upgrade
cycle, to consider this move.

*******

There is also DAZ Loader, for all your pirate needs...
Nuff said. Notice that DAZ Loader has no Wikipedia
entry, even though it is "noteworthy".

https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comm...link_for_dazs/

I don't even know if that stuff comes with a "user
manual" of any sort. You might need an MDL account
in order to be able to read the discussion threads
over there. Some of the content is blocked to Guest
readers.

Paul

On 9/24/2016 10:52 AM, al wrote:
I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7
computer. My question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win
10 and install the Aomei software and then "restore" my latest Win 7
image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win 10 with my Win 7
image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!



Thanks everyone. Looks like my original hope is dashed ... a bit too
complicated for me. If only linux could run all my stock charts and
software I'd be a happy camper, especially after all the crap I've read
concerning Win 10! Then again, linux would probably have me pulling out
my few remaining hairs in no time. Again, thanks for your explanations
and advice.

On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:55:42 -0400, al wrote:

On 9/24/2016 10:52 AM, al wrote:
I use Aomei software to make a system image monthly on my Dell Win 7
computer. My question is simple ... if I buy a new computer with Win
10 and install the Aomei software and then "restore" my latest Win 7
image (from an external HD), will it overwrite the Win 10 with my Win 7
image? (I hope so). Thanks, and forgive my basic ignorance!



Thanks everyone. Looks like my original hope is dashed ... a bit too
complicated for me. If only linux could run all my stock charts and
software I'd be a happy camper, especially after all the crap I've read
concerning Win 10! Then again, linux would probably have me pulling out
my few remaining hairs in no time. Again, thanks for your explanations
and advice.

My advice would be to at least run the windows 10 system and see exactly
what problems there are.
I run a multi boot system, I'm mostly in Linux, but let my win7 partition
update to 10. I don't see any particular problems with 10.