USB3.1 in Windows10

I read this will be built in. Will one need new hardware as well?
Peter. And will it be faster?

Peter Jason wrote:
I read this will be built in. Will one need new hardware as well?
Peter. And will it be faster?

Yes, new chip to run twice as fast.

Cannot be "emulated" in software or something.

New chip, some sorta new driver (needs to know rates,
to do planning and such).

Older OSes will require the vendor of the hardware
kit (PCI Express board), to provide a Windows 7 driver.
No idea whether WinXP would be supported when
USB3.1 hardware becomes more common-place.

You don't really need USB 3.1, so it is more for bragging.
When other hardware catches up, it may be more useful.

*******

A separate issue, is the Type C connector. While it
will be released at roughly the same time, it is not
limited to USB 3.1. During the transition, this will
just make more of a mess of the I/O plate area (at
least three different connectors, USB2 connectors,
USB3 connectors, and one Type C connector for you
to play with). It's hard to say what sort of
evolution plan will exist for the connectors over
the next five years.

Occasionally, I still need a USB2 connector (which
with older OSes, has an actual working driver on boot).
I've already experienced issues on the new computer,
where newer USB3 connectors aren't getting recognized.
For example, over the last few days, I've been using
s "serial mouse" on the test machine, just so I can
click stuff :-) (Two mice are connected, and if the
USB one, the red light has gone off, I just reach
for the serial mouse.) I'm sure glad I bought that
serial mouse for $5 when I found it at the computer
store in the "delete bin".

Paul

On 2015-06-04 9:27 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
I read this will be built in. Will one need new hardware as well?
Peter. And will it be faster?

Support for it will be built-in, but it obviously requires new hardware
the same way you needed new USB 3.0 hardware to take advantage of IT. It
uses a different connector so it won't be backwards compatible with
previous versions of USB as far as I know.


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bomb that didn't go off." - GreyCloud

On 04/06/2015 9:59 PM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
I read this will be built in. Will one need new hardware as well?
Peter. And will it be faster?

Yes, new chip to run twice as fast.

Cannot be "emulated" in software or something.

New chip, some sorta new driver (needs to know rates,
to do planning and such).

Wonder if the new USB 3.1 drivers will look like the existing USB 3.0
drivers (i.e. Extensible Host Controllers)?

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 04/06/2015 9:59 PM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
I read this will be built in. Will one need new hardware as well?
Peter. And will it be faster?

Yes, new chip to run twice as fast.

Cannot be "emulated" in software or something.

New chip, some sorta new driver (needs to know rates,
to do planning and such).

Wonder if the new USB 3.1 drivers will look like the existing USB 3.0
drivers (i.e. Extensible Host Controllers)?

Yousuf Khan


I would expect so.

It would be interesting to check the Win10 Preview, for evidence
of support for 3.1. See if it's mentioned inside any INF files.

Paul

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:00:15 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 04/06/2015 9:59 PM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
I read this will be built in. Will one need new hardware as well?
Peter. And will it be faster?

Yes, new chip to run twice as fast.

Cannot be "emulated" in software or something.

New chip, some sorta new driver (needs to know rates,
to do planning and such).

Wonder if the new USB 3.1 drivers will look like the existing USB 3.0
drivers (i.e. Extensible Host Controllers)?

Yousuf,

I had to replace a motherboard in my PC just a few weeks ago and opted
for an ASUS Z97 Deluxe w/USB 3.1.

Your question may be answered with this picture -
http://tinypic.com/r/2zrdhcm/8

On 06/16/2015 06:54 PM, Monty wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:00:15 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 04/06/2015 9:59 PM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
I read this will be built in. Will one need new hardware as well?
Peter. And will it be faster?

Yes, new chip to run twice as fast.

Cannot be "emulated" in software or something.

New chip, some sorta new driver (needs to know rates,
to do planning and such).

Wonder if the new USB 3.1 drivers will look like the existing USB 3.0
drivers (i.e. Extensible Host Controllers)?

Yousuf,

I had to replace a motherboard in my PC just a few weeks ago and opted
for an ASUS Z97 Deluxe w/USB 3.1.

Your question may be answered with this picture -
http://tinypic.com/r/2zrdhcm/8





Awesome. One picture says it all!

USB 3.1 "sounds" like it will be awesome. I have
loved USB3, with the exception of certain USB2 devices that
won't work with it, such as APC's data cable