General question about using CD's

I hope this question is ok for this group. I'm assuming it might be as
it involves XP's default CD program and CD's.
Yesterday, I asked a friend of mine to download a 50meg program file for
me on his high speed connection because my dial up was too slow. The
plan was for him to put the file on a CD for me and then I would
transfer it to my computer later.
I have Nero InCD installed and use that for my CDRW when I need back up.
I'm having no problems with it right now.
What I did was format a new blank TDK CDRW in InCD and give that CD to
my friend to use after he downloaded the file.
He explained to me today that the file downloaded ok but when he went to
transfer it to the CD I had given him, it wouldn't transfer.
He used a blank CD of his own to put the file on and gave that one to
me.
I think my friend just uses the supplied XP CD recording program on his
computer. He tells me that he doesn't format his discs but just copies
things right to them.
Can someone please tell me why the formatted Nero InCD disk I gave him
wouldn't work on his machine? Should I just have given him a blank CDRW
without formatting it in Nero?
Thanks much,
Dudley

Well why would you gve him a CD that only InCD can write (so most =
computers can't write to) and that most computers can't read.

Only a fool would use InCD.

Yes, give him a blank one and 99% of the computers in the world can read =
it. And all XP computers with a RW drive can write to it.
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message =
...
I hope this question is ok for this group. I'm assuming it might be as
it involves XP's default CD program and CD's.
Yesterday, I asked a friend of mine to download a 50meg program file =
for
me on his high speed connection because my dial up was too slow. The
plan was for him to put the file on a CD for me and then I would
transfer it to my computer later.
I have Nero InCD installed and use that for my CDRW when I need back =
up.
I'm having no problems with it right now.
What I did was format a new blank TDK CDRW in InCD and give that CD to
my friend to use after he downloaded the file.
He explained to me today that the file downloaded ok but when he went =
to
transfer it to the CD I had given him, it wouldn't transfer.
He used a blank CD of his own to put the file on and gave that one to
me.
I think my friend just uses the supplied XP CD recording program on =
his
computer. He tells me that he doesn't format his discs but just copies
things right to them.
Can someone please tell me why the formatted Nero InCD disk I gave him
wouldn't work on his machine? Should I just have given him a blank =
CDRW
without formatting it in Nero?
Thanks much,
Dudley
=20

"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Well why would you gve him a CD that only InCD can write (so most
computers can't write to) and that most computers can't read.

Only a fool would use InCD.

Yes, give him a blank one and 99% of the computers in the world can read
it. And all XP computers with a RW drive can write to it.

Well....thank you for the last sentence anyway. That at least begins to
answer what I was asking. Not being an "idiot", I'll figure the rest of
it out myself.
Thank you so much for your courteous reply. :-)
Dudley Henriques
Past President
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Director Special Projects
Combat Pilots Association of the United States
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
(and according to you, an idiot :-)

All the best, and thank you again.
DH

Just give him a $0.10 blank CD-R, save your RWs for your
machine.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
message ...
| I hope this question is ok for this group. I'm assuming it
might be as
| it involves XP's default CD program and CD's.
| Yesterday, I asked a friend of mine to download a 50meg
program file for
| me on his high speed connection because my dial up was too
slow. The
| plan was for him to put the file on a CD for me and then I
would
| transfer it to my computer later.
| I have Nero InCD installed and use that for my CDRW when I
need back up.
| I'm having no problems with it right now.
| What I did was format a new blank TDK CDRW in InCD and
give that CD to
| my friend to use after he downloaded the file.
| He explained to me today that the file downloaded ok but
when he went to
| transfer it to the CD I had given him, it wouldn't
transfer.
| He used a blank CD of his own to put the file on and gave
that one to
| me.
| I think my friend just uses the supplied XP CD recording
program on his
| computer. He tells me that he doesn't format his discs but
just copies
| things right to them.
| Can someone please tell me why the formatted Nero InCD
disk I gave him
| wouldn't work on his machine? Should I just have given him
a blank CDRW
| without formatting it in Nero?
| Thanks much,
| Dudley
|
|

Windows native CD burning support does not support CD-RW, formatted or
otherwise. Regular CD-Rs use the CDFS recording format, while CD_RWs use
the UDF format. Without packet writing software installed on your friends
machine, his computer cannot see or use a UDF formatted disc. You must
understand that CD-R and CD-RW are completely different from each other.

Bobby

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I hope this question is ok for this group. I'm assuming it might be as
it involves XP's default CD program and CD's.
Yesterday, I asked a friend of mine to download a 50meg program file for
me on his high speed connection because my dial up was too slow. The
plan was for him to put the file on a CD for me and then I would
transfer it to my computer later.
I have Nero InCD installed and use that for my CDRW when I need back up.
I'm having no problems with it right now.
What I did was format a new blank TDK CDRW in InCD and give that CD to
my friend to use after he downloaded the file.
He explained to me today that the file downloaded ok but when he went to
transfer it to the CD I had given him, it wouldn't transfer.
He used a blank CD of his own to put the file on and gave that one to
me.
I think my friend just uses the supplied XP CD recording program on his
computer. He tells me that he doesn't format his discs but just copies
things right to them.
Can someone please tell me why the formatted Nero InCD disk I gave him
wouldn't work on his machine? Should I just have given him a blank CDRW
without formatting it in Nero?
Thanks much,
Dudley

Thank you Jim. I figured it was that way but I didn't realize that if
you format in InCD you are stuck with just that program. Actually, I'm
just learning how things relate with the CD's, as I don't use them all
that much and am unfamiliar with the idiosyncrasies of the technology
and software required and how each relates to the other.
I had no idea you could use a blank disk without formatting it. I'm
learning bit by bit :-)
D

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
Just give him a $0.10 blank CD-R, save your RWs for your
machine.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
message ...
| I hope this question is ok for this group. I'm assuming it
might be as
| it involves XP's default CD program and CD's.
| Yesterday, I asked a friend of mine to download a 50meg
program file for
| me on his high speed connection because my dial up was too
slow. The
| plan was for him to put the file on a CD for me and then I
would
| transfer it to my computer later.
| I have Nero InCD installed and use that for my CDRW when I
need back up.
| I'm having no problems with it right now.
| What I did was format a new blank TDK CDRW in InCD and
give that CD to
| my friend to use after he downloaded the file.
| He explained to me today that the file downloaded ok but
when he went to
| transfer it to the CD I had given him, it wouldn't
transfer.
| He used a blank CD of his own to put the file on and gave
that one to
| me.
| I think my friend just uses the supplied XP CD recording
program on his
| computer. He tells me that he doesn't format his discs but
just copies
| things right to them.
| Can someone please tell me why the formatted Nero InCD
disk I gave him
| wouldn't work on his machine? Should I just have given him
a blank CDRW
| without formatting it in Nero?
| Thanks much,
| Dudley
|
|

Many thanks for this tidbit!
I understand now what was wrong. I use the CDRW's on my machine for
backup and naturally I need to format in INCD to do that. Since InCD
doesn't support CDR's, it never dawned on me that all I needed to give
my friend was a blank CDR. I've never even used a CDR :-))
D
"NoNoBadDog!" mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com wrote in message
...
Windows native CD burning support does not support CD-RW, formatted or
otherwise. Regular CD-Rs use the CDFS recording format, while CD_RWs
use
the UDF format. Without packet writing software installed on your
friends
machine, his computer cannot see or use a UDF formatted disc. You
must
understand that CD-R and CD-RW are completely different from each
other.

Bobby

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I hope this question is ok for this group. I'm assuming it might be
as
it involves XP's default CD program and CD's.
Yesterday, I asked a friend of mine to download a 50meg program file
for
me on his high speed connection because my dial up was too slow. The
plan was for him to put the file on a CD for me and then I would
transfer it to my computer later.
I have Nero InCD installed and use that for my CDRW when I need back
up.
I'm having no problems with it right now.
What I did was format a new blank TDK CDRW in InCD and give that CD
to
my friend to use after he downloaded the file.
He explained to me today that the file downloaded ok but when he
went to
transfer it to the CD I had given him, it wouldn't transfer.
He used a blank CD of his own to put the file on and gave that one
to
me.
I think my friend just uses the supplied XP CD recording program on
his
computer. He tells me that he doesn't format his discs but just
copies
things right to them.
Can someone please tell me why the formatted Nero InCD disk I gave
him
wouldn't work on his machine? Should I just have given him a blank
CDRW
without formatting it in Nero?
Thanks much,
Dudley

Hi Dudley. check out Alex Nichol's site for great info on burning CDs
http://www.aumha.org/a/xpcd.htm I have more links and information here
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/cdr_info.htm at this page on my site.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Many thanks for this tidbit!
I understand now what was wrong. I use the CDRW's on my machine for
backup and naturally I need to format in INCD to do that. Since InCD
doesn't support CDR's, it never dawned on me that all I needed to give
my friend was a blank CDR. I've never even used a CDR :-))
D
"NoNoBadDog!" mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com wrote in message
...
Windows native CD burning support does not support CD-RW, formatted or
otherwise. Regular CD-Rs use the CDFS recording format, while CD_RWs
use
the UDF format. Without packet writing software installed on your
friends
machine, his computer cannot see or use a UDF formatted disc. You
must
understand that CD-R and CD-RW are completely different from each
other.

Bobby

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I hope this question is ok for this group. I'm assuming it might be
as
it involves XP's default CD program and CD's.
Yesterday, I asked a friend of mine to download a 50meg program file
for
me on his high speed connection because my dial up was too slow. The
plan was for him to put the file on a CD for me and then I would
transfer it to my computer later.
I have Nero InCD installed and use that for my CDRW when I need back
up.
I'm having no problems with it right now.
What I did was format a new blank TDK CDRW in InCD and give that CD
to
my friend to use after he downloaded the file.
He explained to me today that the file downloaded ok but when he
went to
transfer it to the CD I had given him, it wouldn't transfer.
He used a blank CD of his own to put the file on and gave that one
to
me.
I think my friend just uses the supplied XP CD recording program on
his
computer. He tells me that he doesn't format his discs but just
copies
things right to them.
Can someone please tell me why the formatted Nero InCD disk I gave
him
wouldn't work on his machine? Should I just have given him a blank
CDRW
without formatting it in Nero?
Thanks much,
Dudley

InCD people need to be eradicated. You are on the side of evil here. But =
in the "normal" world we take conversions from the dark side. Convert. =
CONVERT.

PS I didn't call you anything. And I didn't use the word idiot at all.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message =
...
=20
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Well why would you gve him a CD that only InCD can write (so most
computers can't write to) and that most computers can't read.
=20
Only a fool would use InCD.
=20
Yes, give him a blank one and 99% of the computers in the world can =
read
it. And all XP computers with a RW drive can write to it.
=20
Well....thank you for the last sentence anyway. That at least begins =
to
answer what I was asking. Not being an "idiot", I'll figure the rest =
of
it out myself.
Thank you so much for your courteous reply. :-)
Dudley Henriques
Past President
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Director Special Projects
Combat Pilots Association of the United States
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
(and according to you, an idiot :-)
=20
All the best, and thank you again.
DH
=20
=20
=20

"David Candy" wrote in message
...

InCD people need to be eradicated. You are on the side of evil here.
But in the "normal" world we take conversions from the dark side.
Convert. CONVERT.

PS I didn't call you anything. And I didn't use the word idiot at all.

It's nothing important to me really, but FWIW; I'm not on anyone's
"side". The Nero program came as part of the bundled system on a
purchased computer.
Personal opinions like the ones you are posting to me are juvenile to
say the least and have no relevance whatsoever to the issue or to me
personally.

The fact that you choose to present yourself in this manner defies
intelligent understanding; but be that as it may.
Also, as to your direct statement; " Only a fool would use InCD."
In my world; testing high performance airplanes, "fool" and "idiot" are
equatable and I don't like either term being thrown at me for asking a
simple question. As you can see from the answers in this thread, other
people can handle answers without the use of terms like "only a
fool......."
You take care, and all the best to you. Do me a favor and avoid me in
the future. I'll do my best to struggle along without you. :-)
I'm fairly certain that after you put your little Teddy Bears away and
grow up a bit, you might get the hang of treating people with a little
more respect on Usenet and drop the infantile approach you use when
posting. In the meantime, take a look at the dialog between the other
posters in this thread and myself and see if you can at least get a
handle on how you should conduct yourself .

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired

Much thanks Harry. I appreciate it very much. I'll check out everything
suggested.
Dudley

"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
Hi Dudley. check out Alex Nichol's site for great info on burning CDs
http://www.aumha.org/a/xpcd.htm I have more links and information here
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/cdr_info.htm at this page on my site.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Many thanks for this tidbit!
I understand now what was wrong. I use the CDRW's on my machine for
backup and naturally I need to format in INCD to do that. Since InCD
doesn't support CDR's, it never dawned on me that all I needed to
give
my friend was a blank CDR. I've never even used a CDR :-))
D
"NoNoBadDog!" mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com wrote in message
...
Windows native CD burning support does not support CD-RW, formatted
or
otherwise. Regular CD-Rs use the CDFS recording format, while
CD_RWs
use
the UDF format. Without packet writing software installed on your
friends
machine, his computer cannot see or use a UDF formatted disc. You
must
understand that CD-R and CD-RW are completely different from each
other.

Bobby

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I hope this question is ok for this group. I'm assuming it might
be
as
it involves XP's default CD program and CD's.
Yesterday, I asked a friend of mine to download a 50meg program
file
for
me on his high speed connection because my dial up was too slow.
The
plan was for him to put the file on a CD for me and then I would
transfer it to my computer later.
I have Nero InCD installed and use that for my CDRW when I need
back
up.
I'm having no problems with it right now.
What I did was format a new blank TDK CDRW in InCD and give that
CD
to
my friend to use after he downloaded the file.
He explained to me today that the file downloaded ok but when he
went to
transfer it to the CD I had given him, it wouldn't transfer.
He used a blank CD of his own to put the file on and gave that
one
to
me.
I think my friend just uses the supplied XP CD recording program
on
his
computer. He tells me that he doesn't format his discs but just
copies
things right to them.
Can someone please tell me why the formatted Nero InCD disk I
gave
him
wouldn't work on his machine? Should I just have given him a
blank
CDRW
without formatting it in Nero?
Thanks much,
Dudley

Tact has never been one of Candy's strengths. Don't sweat it.

--
David Nimon


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...

You take care, and all the best to you. Do me a favor and avoid me in
the future. I'll do my best to struggle along without you. :-)

Shove it up your arse then f*ckhead.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message =
...
=20
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
=20
InCD people need to be eradicated. You are on the side of evil here.
But in the "normal" world we take conversions from the dark side.
Convert. CONVERT.
=20
PS I didn't call you anything. And I didn't use the word idiot at =
all.
=20
It's nothing important to me really, but FWIW; I'm not on anyone's
"side". The Nero program came as part of the bundled system on a
purchased computer.
Personal opinions like the ones you are posting to me are juvenile to
say the least and have no relevance whatsoever to the issue or to me
personally.
=20
The fact that you choose to present yourself in this manner defies
intelligent understanding; but be that as it may.
Also, as to your direct statement; " Only a fool would use InCD."
In my world; testing high performance airplanes, "fool" and "idiot" =
are
equatable and I don't like either term being thrown at me for asking a
simple question. As you can see from the answers in this thread, other
people can handle answers without the use of terms like "only a
fool......."
You take care, and all the best to you. Do me a favor and avoid me in
the future. I'll do my best to struggle along without you. :-)
I'm fairly certain that after you put your little Teddy Bears away and
grow up a bit, you might get the hang of treating people with a little
more respect on Usenet and drop the infantile approach you use when
posting. In the meantime, take a look at the dialog between the other
posters in this thread and myself and see if you can at least get a
handle on how you should conduct yourself .
=20
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20

And you are worse than a fool, you are an idiot. I don't give a flying =
f*ck what came with your computer. Scum like you ARE evil. You use it, =
you encourage similar irresponsible behaviour. You really shouldn't be =
allowed to use a computer. You are a terrorist of the computer world. I =
hope InCD reams your arse out well, and they should reward you for your =
corrupt support.

You don't think it didn't come with mine. Idiot. Responsibility demands =
you ignore it and refuse to install it.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message =
...
=20
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
=20
InCD people need to be eradicated. You are on the side of evil here.
But in the "normal" world we take conversions from the dark side.
Convert. CONVERT.
=20
PS I didn't call you anything. And I didn't use the word idiot at =
all.
=20
It's nothing important to me really, but FWIW; I'm not on anyone's
"side". The Nero program came as part of the bundled system on a
purchased computer.
Personal opinions like the ones you are posting to me are juvenile to
say the least and have no relevance whatsoever to the issue or to me
personally.
=20
The fact that you choose to present yourself in this manner defies
intelligent understanding; but be that as it may.
Also, as to your direct statement; " Only a fool would use InCD."
In my world; testing high performance airplanes, "fool" and "idiot" =
are
equatable and I don't like either term being thrown at me for asking a
simple question. As you can see from the answers in this thread, other
people can handle answers without the use of terms like "only a
fool......."
You take care, and all the best to you. Do me a favor and avoid me in
the future. I'll do my best to struggle along without you. :-)
I'm fairly certain that after you put your little Teddy Bears away and
grow up a bit, you might get the hang of treating people with a little
more respect on Usenet and drop the infantile approach you use when
posting. In the meantime, take a look at the dialog between the other
posters in this thread and myself and see if you can at least get a
handle on how you should conduct yourself .
=20
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20

NoNoBadDog! wrote:

Windows native CD burning support does not support CD-RW, formatted or
otherwise. Regular CD-Rs use the CDFS recording format, while CD_RWs use
the UDF format. Without packet writing software installed on your friends
machine, his computer cannot see or use a UDF formatted disc. You must
understand that CD-R and CD-RW are completely different from each other.

Bobby


You might try and make sure you know what you're talking about before
posting. XP has no problem with CD-RWs--it will write them and erase
them. Unless the disc has been formatted for packet writing (with InCD,
for example), XP treats an RW the same as a CD-R.