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Stan Brown wrote on 1/2/2016 11:36 AM:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 22:15:00 -0500, Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-01 9:23 PM, Stan Brown wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 12:17:44 -0500, Slimer wrote: You're ignoring Windows 7 which was a masterpiece and Windows 10 which, according to a list published today, is the version of Windows with the least vulnerabilities. Not counting the ones built in by Microsoft, of course. By all means, provide us with a list of these build-in vulnerabilities. You already know them -- Windows 10 sends all sorts of private information to Microsoft. http://www.pcworld.com/article/29740...w-to-turn-off- windows-10s-keylogger-yes-it-still-has-one.html is just the first hit of many, when one does a Google search. Quote from Microsoft, requoted in that article: "When you interact with your Windows device by speaking, writing (handwriting), or typing, Microsoft collects speech, inking, and typing information?including information about your Calendar and People (also known as contacts)..." And the same stuff is retrofitted int9o Windows 7 and 8 unless you carefully reject any updates having to do with "telemetry". But, the point seems to me to be that you CAN turn it off. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams |
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Slimer wrote on 1/2/2016 12:19 PM:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-02 11:36 AM, Stan Brown wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 22:15:00 -0500, Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-01 9:23 PM, Stan Brown wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 12:17:44 -0500, Slimer wrote: You're ignoring Windows 7 which was a masterpiece and Windows 10 which, according to a list published today, is the version of Windows with the least vulnerabilities. Not counting the ones built in by Microsoft, of course. By all means, provide us with a list of these build-in vulnerabilities. You already know them -- Windows 10 sends all sorts of private information to Microsoft. http://www.pcworld.com/article/29740...w-to-turn-off- windows-10s-keylogger-yes-it-still-has-one.html is just the first hit of many, when one does a Google search. Quote from Microsoft, requoted in that article: "When you interact with your Windows device by speaking, writing (handwriting), or typing, Microsoft collects speech, inking, and typing information?including information about your Calendar and People (also known as contacts)..." And the same stuff is retrofitted int9o Windows 7 and 8 unless you carefully reject any updates having to do with "telemetry". The problem that I have with PC World (and your) decision to call it a keylogger is that keyloggers were traditionally used for the express purpose of collecting usernames and passwords from unsuspecting victims. In this case, Microsoft is using the supposed keylogger to allow its search engine to predict what you are looking for (like Google) and to enhance the services it offers to the user. As far as I can tell, there is no real spying going on and they are not selling user data, monitoring your activities or anything of the sort the way Google does. It honestly feels like people are overreacting to something which is nothing more than a necessity to allow certain features to work correctly. I might be wrong but the amount of evidence articles have presented so far that Microsoft is doing something wrong has been very weak. Yes, me too. |
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I wrote:
Getting Windows 8 for $40 and now Windows 10 for free. Easy to understand why, because Microsoft is under humongous reverse pressure from ultraportable PCs and their operating systems. But I have a feeling it's going to effect more than the price of Windows. Unfortunately, it seems to be encouraging Microsoft to do the wrong thing. Instead of Microsoft improving the desktop operating system, Microsoft is trying harder to monopolize ultraportable PCs, and to hell with the desktop. This reminds me of the big Microsoft antitrust trial prior to 2000. That's when Windows XP came out and ended the crappy consumer versions of Windows power users had to restart several times during the day. This huge pressure on Microsoft could result in another major improvement of quality. No more sitting on its hands, at least for a while. Or maybe Microsoft is losing it. I've experienced several extremely long delays that remind me of pre-Windows XP freezing. There is also the appearance that programmers who don't know what they're doing are trying to redesign Windows. None of the old annoyances have been fixed. And the fact we have no control over updates is a huge glaring mistake. Putting the tiles on the start menu does nothing for me. All I use the Start screen for in Windows 8 is occasionally searching for a newly installed application. Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I will do a clean installation of Windows 8 instead. I suspect that's what most Microsoft employees are using. Hopefully they won't eventually trash Windows 8 worse than what they are doing with Windows 10. Microsoft can forget about ultraportable PC domination, that war is over. Opening up Windows might be the only thing to save Microsoft. Open source would probably greatly enhance the desktop OS over time. |
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Slimer wrote:
Gradient title bars are seriously out of style. If you like that sort of thing, you can use GNU/Linux though That is so amusing. If you weren't born yesterday, you might remember a time when Windows looked great and Linux looked like DOS. Being able to make things look cool is what Windows was all about, ever since Windows 3.1 up until Windows XP. And now Windows 10 looks like ****. |
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Slimer wrote:
I might be wrong but the amount of evidence articles have presented so far that Microsoft is doing something wrong has been very weak. Yes, they're only ethically challenged individuals, with our best interests at heart. I'm starting to tear up now. I was so wrong about those executives. Paul |
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 12:19:29 -0500, Slimer wrote:
The problem that I have with PC World (and your) decision to call it a keylogger is that keyloggers were traditionally used for the express purpose of collecting usernames and passwords from unsuspecting victims. In this case, Microsoft is using the supposed keylogger to allow its search engine to predict what you are looking for (like Google) and to enhance the services it offers to the user. Go ahead -- drink the Kool-Aid. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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On 03/01/2016 12:43, Stan Brown wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 12:19:29 -0500, Slimer wrote: The problem that I have with PC World (and your) decision to call it a keylogger is that keyloggers were traditionally used for the express purpose of collecting usernames and passwords from unsuspecting victims. In this case, Microsoft is using the supposed keylogger to allow its search engine to predict what you are looking for (like Google) and to enhance the services it offers to the user. Go ahead -- drink the Kool-Aid. I don't drink the Kool-Aid but I don't wear the tinfoil hat either |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-03 2:17 AM, John Doe wrote: I wrote: Getting Windows 8 for $40 and now Windows 10 for free. Easy to understand why, because Microsoft is under humongous reverse pressure from ultraportable PCs and their operating systems. But I have a feeling it's going to effect more than the price of Windows. Unfortunately, it seems to be encouraging Microsoft to do the wrong thing. Instead of Microsoft improving the desktop operating system, Microsoft is trying harder to monopolize ultraportable PCs, and to hell with the desktop. Perhaps because ultraportable PCs are hot sellers? As far as I know, Windows 10 is an excellent compromise between those who want a desktop experience and those who want a tablet experience. My wife has one such ultraportable hybrid device and the transition from laptop to tablet is seamless. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. This reminds me of the big Microsoft antitrust trial prior to 2000. That's when Windows XP came out and ended the crappy consumer versions of Windows power users had to restart several times during the day. This huge pressure on Microsoft could result in another major improvement of quality. No more sitting on its hands, at least for a while. Or maybe Microsoft is losing it. I've experienced several extremely long delays that remind me of pre-Windows XP freezing. There is also the appearance that programmers who don't know what they're doing are trying to redesign Windows. None of the old annoyances have been fixed. And the fact we have no control over updates is a huge glaring mistake. Putting the tiles on the start menu does nothing for me. All I use the Start screen for in Windows 8 is occasionally searching for a newly installed application. Meanwhile, this group is discussing Windows 10 where tiles are very well integrated. Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I will do a clean installation of Windows 8 instead. I suspect that's what most Microsoft employees are using. Hopefully they won't eventually trash Windows 8 worse than what they are doing with Windows 10. Microsoft can forget about ultraportable PC domination, that war is over. Opening up Windows might be the only thing to save Microsoft. Open source would probably greatly enhance the desktop OS over time. Yeah, you're clearly off of your medication. Meanwhile, the Surface Pro line is quickly becoming a device of choice for new customers and the SurfaceBook demonstrates that Microsoft is still capable of innovating and that it can make a fool out of Apple. I don't know what delusion you have but it's affecting your ability to reason. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWiUNPAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+utfQH+wdCo5iRigsCad1l4nze0Du5 qw3/OXME/DMDDYVmo7qZZ0e+wNGjs7RfXq8+ER0puoyJr8tm3A+87ehc8US AIud5 kkDugG4Ma/Cx1x5mozMYlBl8gYaGzyCWunrYuAcIJc0C4vEqFaA7v6VePRp/9g+e 0G9yH98AdyGVJxbeC+XzES0/KAa2ZiXbmhQvcKUSWX59oiokmlaE9cz+6jGFgfYF +zsO6EPAB5geAQaQd474j7TkiOQ1BITZ6PgyI8flN7dLXiUlyx XRdAdIG1bUPqor aq8akVJ1jUp+rr4ICj2ub1oO/d6FLcTPbk2xKvirBtw+CwkJY5+TNOpIKXCjC3k= =kzlg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-03 2:24 AM, John Doe wrote: Slimer wrote: Gradient title bars are seriously out of style. If you like that sort of thing, you can use GNU/Linux though That is so amusing. If you weren't born yesterday, you might remember a time when Windows looked great and Linux looked like DOS. I never said a thing about GNU/Linux looking better than Windows. My original comment is right there but your reading ability is apparently affected by the fact that you've run out of medication. Windows 10 looks fantastic whereas most of GNU/Linux looks awful and caters to bitter old fossils like you who enjoyed the out-of-date, out-of-style look. Being able to make things look cool is what Windows was all about, ever since Windows 3.1 up until Windows XP. And now Windows 10 looks like ****. Windows was NEVER about "making things look cool." It was about "making things work." If anything, GNU/Linux has _ALWAYS_ been a lot more customizable than Windows. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWiURAAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+u17wH/A64EHJ0dL6G7u5LMEZtOlIA c9HmSSeH8cXIH6Y4X6wDOGLxukjBF7KlB0zLXX/9BwWwLTd8OTG5Ej3bYGCqgVhZ y1iTMWxDnBE1rcF3ajjz8EDPEpgmyTHy90thOqi1XPlDX2fxBB Wkj3phdoqG07uw mKgrhIcFGvEw5lKthX0F8/OLfA/t0Ys7u/+AhnAfjp1Gt4brwkajlOEoKZonrxPL 33SzeAx4+NwHdOZj406bOZO9kwLCT793KKJPeSWDionyUK4Poc WQd1x8kyvyNltQ OXdNG6wZsvRc5c1AgU4+XDTsKYEJX37tc+7NtXQtrwUfKHxYEx 8qgcv+9r9gRYY= =w/TY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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In article ,
Ed Mullen wrote: [ ... ] And the same stuff is retrofitted int9o Windows 7 and 8 unless you carefully reject any updates having to do with "telemetry". But, the point seems to me to be that you CAN turn it off. Until Microsoft turns it back on with the next "security" update, which they've shown they have no reservations about doing. Gary |
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On 1/3/2016 9:50 AM, Slimer wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-03 2:17 AM, John Doe wrote: I wrote: Getting Windows 8 for $40 and now Windows 10 for free. Easy to understand why, because Microsoft is under humongous reverse pressure from ultraportable PCs and their operating systems. But I have a feeling it's going to effect more than the price of Windows. Unfortunately, it seems to be encouraging Microsoft to do the wrong thing. Instead of Microsoft improving the desktop operating system, Microsoft is trying harder to monopolize ultraportable PCs, and to hell with the desktop. Perhaps because ultraportable PCs are hot sellers? As far as I know, Windows 10 is an excellent compromise between those who want a desktop experience and those who want a tablet experience. My wife has one such ultraportable hybrid device and the transition from laptop to tablet is seamless. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. This reminds me of the big Microsoft antitrust trial prior to 2000. That's when Windows XP came out and ended the crappy consumer versions of Windows power users had to restart several times during the day. This huge pressure on Microsoft could result in another major improvement of quality. No more sitting on its hands, at least for a while. Or maybe Microsoft is losing it. I've experienced several extremely long delays that remind me of pre-Windows XP freezing. There is also the appearance that programmers who don't know what they're doing are trying to redesign Windows. None of the old annoyances have been fixed. And the fact we have no control over updates is a huge glaring mistake. Putting the tiles on the start menu does nothing for me. All I use the Start screen for in Windows 8 is occasionally searching for a newly installed application. Meanwhile, this group is discussing Windows 10 where tiles are very well integrated. Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I will do a clean installation of Windows 8 instead. I suspect that's what most Microsoft employees are using. Hopefully they won't eventually trash Windows 8 worse than what they are doing with Windows 10. Microsoft can forget about ultraportable PC domination, that war is over. Opening up Windows might be the only thing to save Microsoft. Open source would probably greatly enhance the desktop OS over time. Yeah, you're clearly off of your medication. Meanwhile, the Surface Pro line is quickly becoming a device of choice for new customers and the SurfaceBook demonstrates that Microsoft is still capable of innovating and that it can make a fool out of Apple. I don't know what delusion you have but it's affecting your ability to reason. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWiUNPAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+utfQH+wdCo5iRigsCad1l4nze0Du5 qw3/OXME/DMDDYVmo7qZZ0e+wNGjs7RfXq8+ER0puoyJr8tm3A+87ehc8US AIud5 kkDugG4Ma/Cx1x5mozMYlBl8gYaGzyCWunrYuAcIJc0C4vEqFaA7v6VePRp/9g+e 0G9yH98AdyGVJxbeC+XzES0/KAa2ZiXbmhQvcKUSWX59oiokmlaE9cz+6jGFgfYF +zsO6EPAB5geAQaQd474j7TkiOQ1BITZ6PgyI8flN7dLXiUlyx XRdAdIG1bUPqor aq8akVJ1jUp+rr4ICj2ub1oO/d6FLcTPbk2xKvirBtw+CwkJY5+TNOpIKXCjC3k= =kzlg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- John Doe is off his medications or has taken a triple dose, Hard to tell which Regards, Rene |
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:21:47 -0600, Gary Heston wrote:
In article , Ed Mullen wrote: [ ... ] [quoted text muted] carefully reject any updates having to do with "telemetry". But, the point seems to me to be that you CAN turn it off. Until Microsoft turns it back on with the next "security" update, which they've shown they have no reservations about doing. Exactly. Microsoft has taken years of building trust in the Windows update process, and spent 2015 flushing that right down the drain. But the Microsoft apologists here would rather not hear that, so they resort to name-calling. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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Nothing but a troll...
-- Rene Lamontagne rlamont shaw.ca wrote in news:zjciy.37393$uJ5.20201 fx35.iad: Path: eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!adore2!news.ripco.com!usenet.bluewor ldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer02 .iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!fx35.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail Subject: It's a good day to upgrade Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10 References: n61q7m$fcg$2 dont-email.me n6ahub$vdl$1 dont-email.me n6bfrh$rrd$1 dont-email.me From: Rene Lamontagne rlamont shaw.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: n6bfrh$rrd$1 dont-email.me Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 85 Message-ID: zjciy.37393$uJ5.20201 fx35.iad NNTP-Posting-Host: 50.72.129.128 X-Complaints-To: internet.abuse sjrb.ca X-Trace: 1451839839 50.72.129.128 (Sun, 03 Jan 2016 16:50:39 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 16:50:39 UTC Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:50:26 -0600 X-Received-Bytes: 4542 X-Received-Body-CRC: 664512054 Xref: mx02.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-8:28776 alt.comp.os.windows-10:13522 On 1/3/2016 9:50 AM, Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-03 2:17 AM, John Doe wrote: I wrote: Getting Windows 8 for $40 and now Windows 10 for free. Easy to understand why, because Microsoft is under humongous reverse pressure from ultraportable PCs and their operating systems. But I have a feeling it's going to effect more than the price of Windows. Unfortunately, it seems to be encouraging Microsoft to do the wrong thing. Instead of Microsoft improving the desktop operating system, Microsoft is trying harder to monopolize ultraportable PCs, and to hell with the desktop. Perhaps because ultraportable PCs are hot sellers? As far as I know, Windows 10 is an excellent compromise between those who want a desktop experience and those who want a tablet experience. My wife has one such ultraportable hybrid device and the transition from laptop to tablet is seamless. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. This reminds me of the big Microsoft antitrust trial prior to 2000. That's when Windows XP came out and ended the crappy consumer versions of Windows power users had to restart several times during the day. This huge pressure on Microsoft could result in another major improvement of quality. No more sitting on its hands, at least for a while. Or maybe Microsoft is losing it. I've experienced several extremely long delays that remind me of pre-Windows XP freezing. There is also the appearance that programmers who don't know what they're doing are trying to redesign Windows. None of the old annoyances have been fixed. And the fact we have no control over updates is a huge glaring mistake. Putting the tiles on the start menu does nothing for me. All I use the Start screen for in Windows 8 is occasionally searching for a newly installed application. Meanwhile, this group is discussing Windows 10 where tiles are very well integrated. Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I will do a clean installation of Windows 8 instead. I suspect that's what most Microsoft employees are using. Hopefully they won't eventually trash Windows 8 worse than what they are doing with Windows 10. Microsoft can forget about ultraportable PC domination, that war is over. Opening up Windows might be the only thing to save Microsoft. Open source would probably greatly enhance the desktop OS over time. Yeah, you're clearly off of your medication. Meanwhile, the Surface Pro line is quickly becoming a device of choice for new customers and the SurfaceBook demonstrates that Microsoft is still capable of innovating and that it can make a fool out of Apple. I don't know what delusion you have but it's affecting your ability to reason. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWiUNPAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+utfQH+wdCo5iRigsCad1l4nze0Du5 qw3/OXME/DMDDYVmo7qZZ0e+wNGjs7RfXq8+ER0puoyJr8tm3A+87ehc8US AIud5 kkDugG4Ma/Cx1x5mozMYlBl8gYaGzyCWunrYuAcIJc0C4vEqFaA7v6VePRp/9g+e 0G9yH98AdyGVJxbeC+XzES0/KAa2ZiXbmhQvcKUSWX59oiokmlaE9cz+6jGFgfYF +zsO6EPAB5geAQaQd474j7TkiOQ1BITZ6PgyI8flN7dLXiUlyx XRdAdIG1bUPqor aq8akVJ1jUp+rr4ICj2ub1oO/d6FLcTPbk2xKvirBtw+CwkJY5+TNOpIKXCjC3k= =kzlg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- John Doe is off his medications or has taken a triple dose, Hard to tell which Regards, Rene |
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Nothing but a troll...
-- Slimer .m nsn.s wrote in news:n6bfrh$rrd$1 dont-email.me: Path: eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Slimer .m nsn.s Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: It's a good day to upgrade Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:50:39 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 77 Message-ID: n6bfrh$rrd$1 dont-email.me References: n61q7m$fcg$2 dont-email.me n6ahub$vdl$1 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:48:01 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="50ad8222d8625300d9b86063810b4a1e"; logging-data="28525"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/lPt1oGs6hVrnQsMFfBzt/cwDzp1lC5iA=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 In-Reply-To: n6ahub$vdl$1 dont-email.me Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZMrh42ZOi3AgAuE/y7c5B1pN7Zk= Xref: mx02.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-8:28773 alt.comp.os.windows-10:13516 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-03 2:17 AM, John Doe wrote: I wrote: Getting Windows 8 for $40 and now Windows 10 for free. Easy to understand why, because Microsoft is under humongous reverse pressure from ultraportable PCs and their operating systems. But I have a feeling it's going to effect more than the price of Windows. Unfortunately, it seems to be encouraging Microsoft to do the wrong thing. Instead of Microsoft improving the desktop operating system, Microsoft is trying harder to monopolize ultraportable PCs, and to hell with the desktop. Perhaps because ultraportable PCs are hot sellers? As far as I know, Windows 10 is an excellent compromise between those who want a desktop experience and those who want a tablet experience. My wife has one such ultraportable hybrid device and the transition from laptop to tablet is seamless. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. This reminds me of the big Microsoft antitrust trial prior to 2000. That's when Windows XP came out and ended the crappy consumer versions of Windows power users had to restart several times during the day. This huge pressure on Microsoft could result in another major improvement of quality. No more sitting on its hands, at least for a while. Or maybe Microsoft is losing it. I've experienced several extremely long delays that remind me of pre-Windows XP freezing. There is also the appearance that programmers who don't know what they're doing are trying to redesign Windows. None of the old annoyances have been fixed. And the fact we have no control over updates is a huge glaring mistake. Putting the tiles on the start menu does nothing for me. All I use the Start screen for in Windows 8 is occasionally searching for a newly installed application. Meanwhile, this group is discussing Windows 10 where tiles are very well integrated. Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I will do a clean installation of Windows 8 instead. I suspect that's what most Microsoft employees are using. Hopefully they won't eventually trash Windows 8 worse than what they are doing with Windows 10. Microsoft can forget about ultraportable PC domination, that war is over. Opening up Windows might be the only thing to save Microsoft. Open source would probably greatly enhance the desktop OS over time. Yeah, you're clearly off of your medication. Meanwhile, the Surface Pro line is quickly becoming a device of choice for new customers and the SurfaceBook demonstrates that Microsoft is still capable of innovating and that it can make a fool out of Apple. I don't know what delusion you have but it's affecting your ability to reason. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWiUNPAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+utfQH+wdCo5iRigsCad1l4nze0Du5 qw3/OXME/DMDDYVmo7qZZ0e+wNGjs7RfXq8+ER0puoyJr8tm3A+87ehc8US AIud5 kkDugG4Ma/Cx1x5mozMYlBl8gYaGzyCWunrYuAcIJc0C4vEqFaA7v6VePRp/9g+e 0G9yH98AdyGVJxbeC+XzES0/KAa2ZiXbmhQvcKUSWX59oiokmlaE9cz+6jGFgfYF +zsO6EPAB5geAQaQd474j7TkiOQ1BITZ6PgyI8flN7dLXiUlyx XRdAdIG1bUPqor aq8akVJ1jUp+rr4ICj2ub1oO/d6FLcTPbk2xKvirBtw+CwkJY5+TNOpIKXCjC3k= =kzlg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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It's a good day to upgrade
A typical UseNet troll that makes UseNet suck for discussion....
-- Slimer .m nsn.s wrote in news:n6bg32$snt$1 dont-email.me: Path: eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Slimer .m nsn.s Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: It's a good day to upgrade Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:54:40 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: n6bg32$snt$1 dont-email.me References: n61q7m$fcg$2 dont-email.me udda8b9ol2uah1j8u333jq2d0hqu3krj44 4ax.com n64biu$b4d$1 dont-email.me n66c6p$50j$1 dont-email.me n6aiar$vdl$2 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:52:02 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="50ad8222d8625300d9b86063810b4a1e"; logging-data="29437"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX180q9rjpFlyxDQI7r/CtaOIYbPS4jMnaxE=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 In-Reply-To: n6aiar$vdl$2 dont-email.me Cancel-Lock: sha1:tL4wA8Z9J4d3POFzf6Ay0fX82QA= Xref: mx02.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-8:28774 alt.comp.os.windows-10:13517 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-03 2:24 AM, John Doe wrote: Slimer .m nsn.s wrote: Gradient title bars are seriously out of style. If you like that sort of thing, you can use GNU/Linux though That is so amusing. If you weren't born yesterday, you might remember a time when Windows looked great and Linux looked like DOS. I never said a thing about GNU/Linux looking better than Windows. My original comment is right there but your reading ability is apparently affected by the fact that you've run out of medication. Windows 10 looks fantastic whereas most of GNU/Linux looks awful and caters to bitter old fossils like you who enjoyed the out-of-date, out-of-style look. Being able to make things look cool is what Windows was all about, ever since Windows 3.1 up until Windows XP. And now Windows 10 looks like ****. Windows was NEVER about "making things look cool." It was about "making things work." If anything, GNU/Linux has _ALWAYS_ been a lot more customizable than Windows. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWiURAAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+u17wH/A64EHJ0dL6G7u5LMEZtOlIA c9HmSSeH8cXIH6Y4X6wDOGLxukjBF7KlB0zLXX/9BwWwLTd8OTG5Ej3bYGCqgVhZ y1iTMWxDnBE1rcF3ajjz8EDPEpgmyTHy90thOqi1XPlDX2fxBB Wkj3phdoqG07uw mKgrhIcFGvEw5lKthX0F8/OLfA/t0Ys7u/+AhnAfjp1Gt4brwkajlOEoKZonrxPL 33SzeAx4+NwHdOZj406bOZO9kwLCT793KKJPeSWDionyUK4Poc WQd1x8kyvyNltQ OXdNG6wZsvRc5c1AgU4+XDTsKYEJX37tc+7NtXQtrwUfKHxYEx 8qgcv+9r9gRYY= =w/TY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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