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End of UseNet ?
Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a
newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- |
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End of UseNet ?
MS simply takes one more step to control how you view *their* newsgroups.
After all, they know what's best for you. Nothing to do with usenet going away. "Avatar" wrote in message ... : Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a : newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? : That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of : a century? : Does MS know (and control) something we don't? : So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - : That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on : 'faster' means of conversation. : I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing : another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. : Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? : Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). : Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. ::-) : Jyanendra : (Courtesy Avatar) : ------------------- : : : : : |
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End of UseNet ?
On Dec 28, 9:28*am, "Avatar" wrote:
Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- For Microsoft, YES it will be their end of supporting Usenet. They are / have moved to a web forum style of post support. See answers.microsoft.com |
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End of UseNet ?
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:28:32 -0800, "Avatar" wrote:
Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- Usenet is slowly dying and has been for years. Nothing to do with MS in particular. Blame it on the web. Microsoft has always preferred things thay can control to things they can't. They can control their own forums; they can't control Usenet groups. Pick one or the other or both of those reasons. Reply-to address is real |
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End of UseNet ?
Avatar wrote:
Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- AOL nuked their Usenet access and no effect. MS nuking their Usenet groups will only have the effect of no MS groups. Usenet isn't dead yet as the old timers over 50 are still alive. When they kick, it may very well disappear. -- Alias |
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Avatar wrote: Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- Check top1000.org . -- Member - Liberal International This is Ici God, Queen and country! Never Satan President Republic! Beware AntiChrist rising! http://twitter.com/rootnl2k http://www.myspace.com/502748630 Merry Christmas 2009 and Happy New Year 2010 |
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End of UseNet ?
Avatar wrote:
Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- It seems to me societies are changing all the time, much to the chagrin of the many minions who don't want/need any change. Much like advertising...people who like 'new' and 'different' are targeted so as to see how far they will go. Money and cost is always the driving force. What makes me nervous are the commercials I'm beginning to see on T.V., warning us about the ever increasing demand for the limited supply of water on this planet. They already know people will pay for water! "How far will they go"? I feel your pain concerning UseNet. It looks, to me, like they're gonna get everyone herded into the "forum" pen and charge money to get out. |
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:49:38 -0800 (PST), smlunatick
wrote: On Dec 28, 9:28*am, "Avatar" wrote: Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- For Microsoft, YES it will be their end of supporting Usenet. They are / have moved to a web forum style of post support. See answers.microsoft.com I've visited their web forums and I don't like them at all. They're sort of like going back to horse and wagon transportation after having become adapted to modern automobiles. I guess this is the end of my communications privileges concerning MS products. Gordon |
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End of UseNet ?
Avatar expressed an opinion:
Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? snip Usenet predates the Internet and will probably outlast it, too. :-D Removing access from AOL users and Internet newbies only improves it for the rest of us. If people have to learn about NNTP from experience, instead of having an MS news server pre-configured in their new MS apps when they buy a new computer, a lot of newbie posts will be reduced, such as unsubscribe requests and private email messages. Even if MS decides to close the server, these newsgroups have been propagated too far and wide to just die, as long as they're being used. -- God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. KristleBawl's Taglines by http://tagzilla.mozdev.org Localizations by http://www.babelzilla.org/ Get Involved |
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End of UseNet ?
Alias wrote:
AOL nuked their Usenet access and no effect. MS nuking their Usenet groups will only have the effect of no MS groups. Usenet isn't dead yet as the old timers over 50 are still alive. When they kick, it may very well disappear. Even if MS shuts down their NNTP server farm, I think the microsoft.public.* groups will continue to exist on Usenet servers around the world. -- Tim Slattery http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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End of UseNet ?
Removing access from AOL users and Internet newbies only improves it for
the rest of us. Haha... good point. Even if MS decides to close the server, these newsgroups have been propagated too far and wide to just die, as long as they're being used. Agreed. Addiointially, even if MS does not "support" newsgroups, I'm sure there will be plently of Windows 7 newsgroups (and others) coming along. It was not a particulary special advantage to having a MS rep {{occasionally}} drop in. -Frank |
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End of UseNet ?
KristleBawl wrote:
Avatar expressed an opinion: Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? snip Usenet predates the Internet and will probably outlast it, too. :-D I don't think so. Usenet originally operated independent of the Internet, but my understanding is that the two Carolinians who created NNTP were inspired by Internet mailing lists. At that time, the Internet was very limited, and their schools were not included. So they came up with another way to have discussion groups. When the Internet expanded, it became the most convenient way to exchange Usenet traffic. -- Tim Slattery http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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End of UseNet ?
Spammers killed (are killing) UseNet.
Everyone talks about MS wanting to control things... what they're wanting to control is the nonsense that gets posted on UseNet forums. With web-based forums, there is a greater degree of control, by requiring a login. It isn't perfect, but it does help. I don't like it either. I'd prefer to view this forum with a newsreader like OE. It is the scum of society that always lowers the quality of life for others. "Avatar" wrote in message ... Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- |
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End of UseNet ?
Not only less convenient, but what I find particularly irritating on the MS
forums ( e.g. http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...estart/threads ) is the arrogance of the MS people's responses. They implicitly (sometimes explicitly) rubbish any competing third party software and if people have problems the first line is to blame 'conflicting' third party software, always recommend uninstalling the third party software and install/use the MS one (e.g. one user with ZA firewall had problems after installing MS security essentials. Answer: uninstall ZA and use Windows firewall (this in XP). Only as a last resort might they admit that the MS products are not perfect. "Antares 531" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:49:38 -0800 (PST), smlunatick wrote: On Dec 28, 9:28 am, "Avatar" wrote: Does the MS decision to leave out Windows 7 newsgroups as well as a newsreader in the OS a harbinger of the future? That the UseNet is being phased out - or is dying - after almost a third of a century? Does MS know (and control) something we don't? So is this also a social change dictated by technology's progress? - That people will now forgo these discussions and instead concentrate on 'faster' means of conversation. I don't really know where to stand on this but I feel we are witnessing another - rather uncelebrated - change in online sociology. Should I look forward to future newsgroups carried on Twitter someday? Just some year-end musings (meaningless perhaps). Wishing everybody a Happy New Year. :-) Jyanendra (Courtesy Avatar) ------------------- For Microsoft, YES it will be their end of supporting Usenet. They are / have moved to a web forum style of post support. See answers.microsoft.com I've visited their web forums and I don't like them at all. They're sort of like going back to horse and wagon transportation after having become adapted to modern automobiles. I guess this is the end of my communications privileges concerning MS products. Gordon |
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End of UseNet ?
"JohnB" wrote in message ... Spammers killed (are killing) UseNet. Everyone talks about MS wanting to control things... what they're wanting to control is the nonsense that gets posted on UseNet forums. With web-based forums, there is a greater degree of control, by requiring a login. It isn't perfect, but it does help. I don't like it either. I'd prefer to view this forum with a newsreader like OE. It is the scum of society that always lowers the quality of life for others. Like Alias |
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