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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
On 2/18/2012 9:07 PM, SC Tom wrote:
"W. eWatson" wrote in message ... ... I may be going by a Best Buy store in awhile. That's who I bought it froml. Maybe they know. According to site http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/...3913Rsp2.shtml yours should have the same touchpad as mine. Did your laptop come with Windows 7, or did you upgrade it from Vista? If an upgrade, then you would need to install the Gateway Synaptics driver to see it in Mouse settings. If you look here I had Win 7 put on about 3 weeks ago. XP Pro 32bit (I think) was the forerunner. I think I'm on Win 7 pro. http://support.gateway.com/us/en/pro...umber=1013913R you'll see there are no Windows 7 drivers for that laptop; you can install the Vista one for your version, and then follow the instructions I posted. The pretty much what I did with mine since there were no Windows 7 drivers for mine either. Maybe I can put paper across it with scotch tape. :-) I the driver link for XP Pro had a touchpad driver, but no messages there from you. The drive shows x64. Use the Vista 64-bit driver. This is the download link: http://global-download.gateway.com/G...EBOOK&Step2=MX SERIES&Step3=MX6450&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=GATEWAY&SC=PA_ 6G or the tiny.url link if that one doesn't show well: http://preview.tinyurl.com/8833tgp The "preview" shows you where it's going so you can verify that really IS where it's going :-) I do not understand this. I went to preview.tnyurl..... I did get the driver down, but have not applied it. Shouldn't I save the old driver somehow? |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
On 2/19/2012 9:37 AM, SC Tom wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , W. eWatson writes: On 2/18/2012 12:34 PM, SC Tom wrote: "W. eWatson" wrote in message ... Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad? [] Ah, touchpad, not keypad. OK, I went there are no Device tabs. Pointers, Pointer Options, Wheels, Hardware. OK, I'm on Hardware. I've looked here before. I an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse under devices. No touchpad. [] If you see (I presume the word "see" is missing from the above!) "an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse", after plugging in your mouse (you say you are using "the mouse", so I presume you are plugging one in), then one of those probably _is_ the touchpad; after all, for most software, it functions as a mouse. Try disabling each of those! (I suspect it'll be the PS/2 one.) [Don't disable both - that includes making sure the re-enabled one has started working again - if you find it's the wrong one, unless you're familiar with how to use the computer without a mouse; it's usually possible, but many people these days don't know how to.] Alternatively, and you'll kick yourself if you have something similar: on this Samsung NC-20, Fn-F10 toggles he touchpad on and off ... (-: I wish mine had that, or like my old Compaq had, an on/off pushbutton right above the touchpad. According to the manual for the OP's laptop, there IS a Fn toggle for the touchpad (I missed that earlier). It shows a finger touching a rectangular box with a "not" circle on it. Unfortunately, it doesn't show a picture of the keyboard clear enough to tell which key it is. It seems to be between the "Screen Blank" and "Play" F-keys, but doesn't state definitively which ones they are; it just shows the icons to look for. I wish I had my Gateway manuals with me. In any case, I tried every blue F-key and otherwise, and found nothing to indicate the pad was disabled. It did rattle me a little when f3 turned the screen black. I had to press the power button to get on. Then I got a little rattled again when I started to get numbers instead of letters when I tried typing a response here. The Scroll blue key is actually numlock. My wife noticed that. F4 sort of look like the right key. It has a rectangle with an ellipse in it, slash, then just a rectangle. It didn't help. Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site. |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
"W. eWatson" wrote in message ... On 2/19/2012 9:37 AM, SC Tom wrote: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , W. eWatson writes: On 2/18/2012 12:34 PM, SC Tom wrote: "W. eWatson" wrote in message ... Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad? [] Ah, touchpad, not keypad. OK, I went there are no Device tabs. Pointers, Pointer Options, Wheels, Hardware. OK, I'm on Hardware. I've looked here before. I an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse under devices. No touchpad. [] If you see (I presume the word "see" is missing from the above!) "an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse", after plugging in your mouse (you say you are using "the mouse", so I presume you are plugging one in), then one of those probably _is_ the touchpad; after all, for most software, it functions as a mouse. Try disabling each of those! (I suspect it'll be the PS/2 one.) [Don't disable both - that includes making sure the re-enabled one has started working again - if you find it's the wrong one, unless you're familiar with how to use the computer without a mouse; it's usually possible, but many people these days don't know how to.] Alternatively, and you'll kick yourself if you have something similar: on this Samsung NC-20, Fn-F10 toggles he touchpad on and off ... (-: I wish mine had that, or like my old Compaq had, an on/off pushbutton right above the touchpad. According to the manual for the OP's laptop, there IS a Fn toggle for the touchpad (I missed that earlier). It shows a finger touching a rectangular box with a "not" circle on it. Unfortunately, it doesn't show a picture of the keyboard clear enough to tell which key it is. It seems to be between the "Screen Blank" and "Play" F-keys, but doesn't state definitively which ones they are; it just shows the icons to look for. I wish I had my Gateway manuals with me. In any case, I tried every blue F-key and otherwise, and found nothing to indicate the pad was disabled. It did rattle me a little when f3 turned the screen black. I had to press the power button to get on. Then I got a little rattled again when I started to get numbers instead of letters when I tried typing a response here. The Scroll blue key is actually numlock. My wife noticed that. F4 sort of look like the right key. It has a rectangle with an ellipse in it, slash, then just a rectangle. It didn't help. Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site. Here's the link to your stuff: http://support.gateway.com/us/en/pro...1&modelId=3143 Go to the User Guides tab. Get the ones you want. In typical Gateway support fashion, all the zip files are the same name, so change the name as you download, or unzip them one at a time, then overwrite the first zip on the next download. I'm sorry I misled you on the Fn key to disable the touchpad; I was helping someone else with their NV laptop, and that was the manual I was looking at, not yours. To answer your other question about the driver installation, you really don't have a full driver installed, or the touchpad would show in Control Panel, whether under the Mouse item or Synaptics itself. You're basically running the generic Windows 7 touchpad driver, which is probably why it's not showing up anywhere. By installing the Gateway driver, you'll have the option to enable/disable it, adjust the sensitivity, scroll speed, etc., just like you can with a real mouse. -- SC Tom |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site. Here's the link to your stuff: http://support.gateway.com/us/en/pro...1&modelId=3143 Go to the User Guides tab. Get the ones you want. In typical Gateway support fashion, all the zip files are the same name, so change the name as you download, or unzip them one at a time, then overwrite the first zip on the next download. I'm sorry I misled you on the Fn key to disable the touchpad; I was helping someone else with their NV laptop, and that was the manual I was looking at, not yours. To answer your other question about the driver installation, you really don't have a full driver installed, or the touchpad would show in Control Panel, whether under the Mouse item or Synaptics itself. You're basically running the generic Windows 7 touchpad driver, which is probably why it's not showing up anywhere. By installing the Gateway driver, you'll have the option to enable/disable it, adjust the sensitivity, scroll speed, etc., just like you can with a real mouse. I have an MX6453, but I guess 6450 is close enough. I don't see anything in either manual about disabling with the keys. They seem to have missed Scroll, Pause, Ins,Del. |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
In message , W. eWatson
writes: [] I wish I had my Gateway manuals with me. In any case, I tried every blue F-key and otherwise, and found nothing to indicate the pad was disabled. It did rattle me a little when f3 turned the screen black. I (Did you find what that is _supposed_ to do?) had to press the power button to get on. Then I got a little rattled again when I started to get numbers instead of letters when I tried typing a response here. The Scroll blue key is actually numlock. My wife noticed that. F4 sort of look like the right key. It has a rectangle with an ellipse in it, slash, then just a rectangle. It didn't help. I think that's display switch - switch between laptop screen and external monitor, or toggle external monitor off/on, or cycle round between external/laptop/both. Does rectangle-with-ellipse have another rectangle under it, i. e. crude drawing of laptop? Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site. Have you tried just disabling one of your two mice (you said you had a PS/2 and a HID one according to Display Manager) to see if one is the touchpad? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "When I was young I used to scintillate now I only sin 'til ten past three" (Ogden Nash) [via Andy Breen] |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
"W. eWatson" wrote in message
... Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad? Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I ended up doing: Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable) Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel Uninstalled the one that was left Rebooted and plugged in the mouse Touchpad gone! |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
On 2/20/2012 1:26 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , W. eWatson writes: [] I wish I had my Gateway manuals with me. In any case, I tried every blue F-key and otherwise, and found nothing to indicate the pad was disabled. It did rattle me a little when f3 turned the screen black. I (Did you find what that is _supposed_ to do?) Exactly what it did. Took me off the laptop, and I had to signin. had to press the power button to get on. Then I got a little rattled again when I started to get numbers instead of letters when I tried typing a response here. The Scroll blue key is actually numlock. My wife noticed that. F4 sort of look like the right key. It has a rectangle with an ellipse in it, slash, then just a rectangle. It didn't help. I think that's display switch - switch between laptop screen and external monitor, or toggle external monitor off/on, or cycle round between external/laptop/both. Does rectangle-with-ellipse have another rectangle under it, i. e. crude drawing of laptop? Nothing under them. Maybe I can find the manual on Gateway's site. Have you tried just disabling one of your two mice (you said you had a PS/2 and a HID one according to Display Manager) to see if one is the touchpad? I only have one mouse. It's a Logitech. |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
On 2/20/2012 6:47 AM, Thip wrote:
"W. eWatson" wrote in message ... Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad? Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I ended up doing: Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable) Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel Uninstalled the one that was left Rebooted and plugged in the mouse Touchpad gone! Have you tried to restore the touchpad again to see if it works w/o the mouse? |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
In message , W. eWatson
writes: [] Have you tried just disabling one of your two mice (you said you had a PS/2 and a HID one according to Display Manager) to see if one is the touchpad? I only have one mouse. It's a Logitech. Yes, I know you only have one mouse. But you said Device Manager (sorry not Display Manager) said you had two, one HID (which stands for human interface device) and one PS2. As far as Windows and most of the applications you are running, you have two mice. The mouse cursor can be moved, and things can be clicked and right-clicked on; the fact that one of the devices that do these things is actually a trackpad and not a mouse, in unknown to Windows, I suspect. Just try disabling (at a guess) the PS2 "mouse" in Device Manager. I think there's a fair chance the trackpad will cease to function. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The hypothalamus is one of the most important parts of the brain, involved in many kinds of motivation, among other functions. The hypothalamus controls the "Four F's": fighting, fleeing, feeding, and mating. -Heard in a neuropsychology classroom |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
"W. eWatson" wrote in message
... Have you tried to restore the touchpad again to see if it works w/o the mouse? No. I hate touchpads. |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor (blocker)
I think I've considered every suggestion in the other branch. Someone
mentioned touchpad blocker. It may work fine, but it is not free as far as I can tell. Yes. it has a 30 day trial. I just put a business card across the pad area, and unless I press down fairly hard, it does not move the cursor. I think that will be my solution. Now to find some scotch tape. |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
On 2/19/2012, J. P. Gilliver (John) posted:
In message , W. eWatson writes: On 2/18/2012 12:34 PM, SC Tom wrote: "W. eWatson" wrote in message ... Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad? [] Ah, touchpad, not keypad. OK, I went there are no Device tabs. Pointers, Pointer Options, Wheels, Hardware. OK, I'm on Hardware. I've looked here before. I an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse under devices. No touchpad. [] If you see (I presume the word "see" is missing from the above!) "an HID-compliant mouse and PS/2 Compatible Mouse", after plugging in your mouse (you say you are using "the mouse", so I presume you are plugging one in), then one of those probably _is_ the touchpad; after all, for most software, it functions as a mouse. Try disabling each of those! (I suspect it'll be the PS/2 one.) [Don't disable both - that includes making sure the re-enabled one has started working again - if you find it's the wrong one, unless you're familiar with how to use the computer without a mouse; it's usually possible, but many people these days don't know how to.] Alternatively, and you'll kick yourself if you have something similar: on this Samsung NC-20, Fn-F10 toggles he touchpad on and off ... (-: Here's another algorithm for that: Unplug the external mouse. Disable the only remaining mouse. Plug the external mouse back in and reboot (with the Windows key if necessary). Or one could disable the trackpad, shut down, plug the external mouse in, and power on. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
On 2/20/2012, Thip posted:
"W. eWatson" wrote in message ... Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad? Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I ended up doing: Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable) Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel Uninstalled the one that was left Rebooted and plugged in the mouse Touchpad gone! I posted the same idea just two minutes before reading your post. Looks like I'm a day late and a dollar short! Great minds and so forth... -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes: On 2/20/2012, Thip posted: "W. eWatson" wrote in message ... Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad? Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I ended up doing: Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable) Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel Uninstalled the one that was left Rebooted and plugged in the mouse Touchpad gone! I posted the same idea just two minutes before reading your post. Looks like I'm a day late and a dollar short! Great minds and so forth... Strange, I didn't see that post initially, but anyway: no, I don't think you'll see an option to disable in Control Panel under mice. You'll find it in Device Manager. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Freedom of the press is limited to those who have one. |
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Controlling my laptop's keypad and cursor
On 2/21/2012, J. P. Gilliver (John) posted:
In message , Gene E. Bloch writes: On 2/20/2012, Thip posted: "W. eWatson" wrote in message ... Often I use the pad on my laptop to move the cursor. However, I began using the mouse more recently. I have a Gateway MX6453 laptop about 4 years old. My thumbs often accidentally hit the pad while typing, and the cursor goes to some random place where I'm typing, brings up a new window, or to a lot of other unintended places. How do I turn off the pad? Been following this thread because of my own problems. Here's what I ended up doing: Checked Mouse in Control Panel and saw two (no option to disable) Unplugged the mouse and went back to Control Panel Uninstalled the one that was left Rebooted and plugged in the mouse Touchpad gone! I posted the same idea just two minutes before reading your post. Looks like I'm a day late and a dollar short! Great minds and so forth... Strange, I didn't see that post initially, but anyway: no, I don't think you'll see an option to disable in Control Panel under mice. You'll find it in Device Manager. My bad. I didn't notice that Leon Manfredi had said Control Panel. I was thinking Device manager. Or maybe I wasn't actually thinking :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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