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Old November 27th 17, 08:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !
Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
So what to do with the thing?
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Old November 27th 17, 09:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Rene Lamontagne
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On 11/27/2017 1:06 PM, Mathedman wrote:
*Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !
* Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
* So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
*So what to do with the thing?


For control panel click on the search icon and type Control, this
should bring it up, I keep a shortcut on the desktop as I use it Often.

The trend is not to have optical dvd drives anymore, the alternative are
USB drives, You can add an external USB drive if you need it.

I may be wrong but I was sure that Internet Explorer 11 came with
Windows 10, Unless the newer version only comes with Edge.

The USB port should recognize any USB device, ONE USB port is totatly
unacceptable. My desktop has 8.

If it were me I would return it and ask them for a properly working
Computer.
I hope that helps a little, Others may pitch in and try and help you out
also.

BTW If you posted the model number it would make it easier to help.

Regards, Rene


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Old November 27th 17, 10:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
On 11/27/2017 1:06 PM, Mathedman wrote:
*Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought


Why - old one died, or she just liked the all-in-one idea?

a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !


Did you (she) buy it sight unseen online, or from a shop?

* Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
* So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
*So what to do with the thing?


See below ...
[]
I may be wrong but I was sure that Internet Explorer 11 came with
Windows 10, Unless the newer version only comes with Edge.


I think you're right.

The USB port should recognize any USB device, ONE USB port is totatly
unacceptable. My desktop has 8.


Seconded. I haven't even _seen_ a machine with less than three for
years, even laptops. (Are you _sure_ there aren't others in odd places -
top, bottom, sides, edge, keyboard? [How does the keyboard connect -
wireless?])

If it were me I would return it and ask them for a properly working
Computer.


Me too. Only one USB port would alone make it unacceptable to me -
especially if it doesn't work!

I hope that helps a little, Others may pitch in and try and help you
out also.


But I'd hold back on applying such fixes, lest you get too attached to
it - keep the "return it" option high in your mind.

What did she _intend_ to do with the computer when she bought it? (If
_she_ can do what she intended, then _you_ finding fault might lead to
domestic strife - though a single non-working USB port _should_ be a
reason to convince her.)

BTW If you posted the model number it would make it easier to help.

Regards, Rene


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Old November 27th 17, 10:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Mathedman" wrote

| So what to do with the thing?

Take it back?
Maybe she bought a tablet?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-in...?skuId=4205600

That's an all-in-one. DVD drive. 4 USB. Network
jack and audio jacks. HDMI jack. Sounds normal.
But why would you buy an all-in-one if you want
a desktop? It's usually more money for less flexibility.

If you've bought a tablet, or some kind of
Win10S hybrid device, then you don't really have
a computer and it won't run desktop software. As
Rene said, no one can say very much useful without
knowing what it is.


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Old November 27th 17, 11:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Mathedman wrote in news:9b679cd1-a68b-fcc6-b961-
:

Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !
Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
So what to do with the thing?


A cursory look shows that Dell does offer both AMD and Intel all-in-ones
with no DVD drive, but they have at least 4 USB ports.

Provide the model number to this news group:

alt.sys.pc-clone.dell

Windows 10 does have a Control Panel, and Internet Explorer.

Control Panel is he
StartWindows SystemControlPanel
From here, you could right click and Pin to Start, or righ clickMorePin
to taskbar
or
Type "Control Panel" into the Cortana orb

Internet Explorer is he
StartWindows AccessoriesInternet Explorer
From here, you could right click and Pin to Start, or righ clickMorePin
to taskbar

or
Type "Internet Explorer" in the Cortana orb
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Old November 28th 17, 12:50 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Mayayana
writes:
[]
But why would you buy an all-in-one if you want
a desktop? It's usually more money for less flexibility.

[]
Yes, but some people are willing to pay it for the tidier appearance. My
brother bought one (around Windows 8.1 time), and he's certainly no
dummy - just not "into" computers like most of us are here.
--
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enough experience to even recognise it as knowledge, let alone as useful
knowledge. - Wolf K , in alt.windows7.general, 2017-4-30
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Old November 28th 17, 01:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| But why would you buy an all-in-one if you want
| a desktop? It's usually more money for less flexibility.
| []
| Yes, but some people are willing to pay it for the tidier appearance. My
| brother bought one (around Windows 8.1 time), and he's certainly no
| dummy - just not "into" computers like most of us are here.

I think it's not just an idea of tidier. People get
seduced by compact and sleek -- dumb or not.
But smaller usually means more expensive. A good
example is the competition to make the thinnest
laptop. People get excited over cutting off a couple
of mm, even though the laptop itself isn't made any
lighter.

The idea of a thin client was marketed around
2000. Really it's a dumb client. A small, compact
computer meant to go online for functionality.
But it was just more money for less computer.
I can see buying less for more money (laptop)
in order to get mobility. But buying a limited
desktop with little or no upgradability, for more
money, makes no sense. (Even the Apple fans
knew enough not to buy Cubes, even though they
fell for iMacs.


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Old November 28th 17, 02:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , Mayayana
writes:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| But why would you buy an all-in-one if you want
| a desktop? It's usually more money for less flexibility.
| []
| Yes, but some people are willing to pay it for the tidier appearance. My
| brother bought one (around Windows 8.1 time), and he's certainly no
| dummy - just not "into" computers like most of us are here.

I think it's not just an idea of tidier. People get
seduced by compact and sleek -- dumb or not.
But smaller usually means more expensive. A good


Sleek, maybe, but not necessarily compact or smaller; the one my brother
bought is quite a big screen (bigger than the monitor he'd had on the
laptop it was replacing, by quite a bit IIRR). He just liked the idea of
only having one thing - monitor (or all-in-one) - on the desk, rather
than monitor plus another big box alongside, which would have given him
no extra functionality that he actually wanted. (He transfers with
memory sticks; OK, the optical drive is probably a bit more awkward to
use, but as he uses that once in a blue moon, it doesn't matter.)

example is the competition to make the thinnest
laptop. People get excited over cutting off a couple
of mm, even though the laptop itself isn't made any
lighter.


Like the concerns over weight - which don't include the power brick. My
W98 laptop (which may actually originally have been earlier; it doesn't
have Windows keys in the usual places. It had '9x on it when I bought
it) has the power brick inside (the mains lead just goes straight in the
back): much easier to transport around. (OK, it's thick and heavy! But
that's more to do with when it was made.) If I was buying a new laptop,
and one similar - especially as power bricks are now so much smaller
anyway - was offered, I'd put it high on my list; but it's never going
to happen anyway.

The idea of a thin client was marketed around
2000. Really it's a dumb client. A small, compact
computer meant to go online for functionality.


It oscillates. We originally had dumb terminals - glass teletypes (or
even printing ones!) that connected to a mainframe. Then we moved
towards machines that did a lot of the graphics etc., and even
processing, locally; then, for large companies anyway, there are dumb
clients (even if they have more power than the mainframes of old!) that
work with a central database. It drifted back, and now we are reverting
- although it is more the software and storage that is centralised,
rather than the processing and graphics capabilities. (When I've looked
into some of these machines with only 32G of solid-state storage in my
local stores, and seen how little of that is actually free once the OS
and a little software is installed, I've decided they're not for me, but
they might suit a lot of people.)

But it was just more money for less computer.
I can see buying less for more money (laptop)
in order to get mobility. But buying a limited
desktop with little or no upgradability, for more
money, makes no sense. (Even the Apple fans


To you. It does to some, especially in small homes. (Which, in UK
anyway, are becoming commoner.)

knew enough not to buy Cubes, even though they
fell for iMacs.


I use laptops, as you say for portability - though rarely on battery.
Though when I got my first one (the '9x one mentioned above), I thought
it would remain for use only when out and about, my desktop remaining my
main machine - but it soon became my main machine. Now, my desktop (I
still have one) hasn't been turned on for weeks if not months.
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Old November 28th 17, 02:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Boris wrote:
Mathedman wrote in news:9b679cd1-a68b-fcc6-b961-
:

Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !
Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
So what to do with the thing?


A cursory look shows that Dell does offer both AMD and Intel all-in-ones
with no DVD drive, but they have at least 4 USB ports.

Provide the model number to this news group:

alt.sys.pc-clone.dell

Windows 10 does have a Control Panel, and Internet Explorer.

Control Panel is he
StartWindows SystemControlPanel
From here, you could right click and Pin to Start, or righ clickMorePin
to taskbar
or
Type "Control Panel" into the Cortana orb

Internet Explorer is he
StartWindows AccessoriesInternet Explorer
From here, you could right click and Pin to Start, or righ clickMorePin
to taskbar

or
Type "Internet Explorer" in the Cortana orb


At the current time, "control.exe" when executed, will bring
up the Control Panel. If you right-click the Start Orb, there is
a Run box, and you can enter it there. The advantage of this
on a "slow slow" platform, is the Control Panel will start
faster without the Cortana Ceremony.

You can also vector to the control panel you want, by passing
a parameter to control.exe on the command line.

Paul
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Old November 28th 17, 02:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mathedman wrote:
Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !
Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
So what to do with the thing?


It does sound like a Windows10-S platform, a bit.

Windows10-S has only Metro Apps on it. So Internet Explorer
is not one of those.

If you right-click the Start Orb, and use the Run box,
you can type

iexplore.exe

and start some copy of Internet Explorer if it exists.
That would work on Win10 Home or Win10 Pro, which are
the conventional dual-purpose consumer OSes with legacy
support.

Internet Explorer, on a 64 bit OS platform, is stored
in two folders. There is a 32-bit version in Program Files (x86)
and a 64-bit version in "Program Files". When you type
iexplore.exe, the execution path is going to pick the
one it finds first in the path. But you can start
either one by locating the two executables, if you
wanted to compare the 32-bit IE11 to the 64-bit IE11
on a 64-bit OS. You could double-click one of those,
in its respective Program Files folder.

*******

Windows10-S can be "upgraded" to Windows 10 Pro, for $50.
And for a limited time (likely for the remainder of this year),
that upgrade is free. Seeing as there isn't a lot of
Windows10-S out there (I searched about a month ago),
I really wasn't expecting to run into that yet.

In the Run Box, type "winver" to collect information about the install.

Using "slmgr /dlv" will give details of the activation (irrelevant
for this discussion, but part of evidence collection otherwise).

And the System Control Panel will also have some strings
containing evidence of what you've got.

To date, only Microsoft Surface products list Windows10-S
as their OS, and I haven't seen evidence that companies
like Dell/HP/Lenovo are shipping that.

Windows10-S only runs Windows Store Apps, meaning the
MSEdge browser is your browser for the moment. If that's
the case, you can fix that by doing the free Pro upgrade,
before it's too late!

Why doesn't your USB port work ? Haven't a clue. Start
by cracking the owners manual.

If you'd mentioned the model number of the machine,
I would have investigated...

You probably don't have a Type-C USB connector, because
otherwise you would have mentioned the weird thing that
doesn't look like a USB port :-) You can adapt Type-C
to other connector types, in order to plug in your
existing junk room full of stuff.

Paul
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Old November 28th 17, 06:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article , am
says...

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| But why would you buy an all-in-one if you want
| a desktop? It's usually more money for less flexibility.
| []
| Yes, but some people are willing to pay it for the tidier appearance. My
| brother bought one (around Windows 8.1 time), and he's certainly no
| dummy - just not "into" computers like most of us are here.

I think it's not just an idea of tidier. People get
seduced by compact and sleek -- dumb or not.
But smaller usually means more expensive. A good
example is the competition to make the thinnest
laptop. People get excited over cutting off a couple
of mm, even though the laptop itself isn't made any
lighter.

The idea of a thin client was marketed around
2000. Really it's a dumb client. A small, compact
computer meant to go online for functionality.
But it was just more money for less computer.
I can see buying less for more money (laptop)
in order to get mobility. But buying a limited
desktop with little or no upgradability, for more
money, makes no sense. (Even the Apple fans
knew enough not to buy Cubes, even though they
fell for iMacs.


Geez, same as small desktops only have room for one hd and dvd drive and
don't even take full height add-on cards etc. Often have limited memory
upgrade capabilities etc. That's been going on since almost day 1 LOL
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Old November 28th 17, 04:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 11/27/2017 01:06 PM, Mathedman wrote:
*Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !
* Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
* So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
*So what to do with the thing?




I looked at the specs for the lowest end Dell I could find and it has
four USB ports.

I suspect you are doing something wrong
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Old November 28th 17, 04:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 21:20:40 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

I may be wrong but I was sure that Internet Explorer 11 came with
Windows 10, Unless the newer version only comes with Edge.


I think you're right.


My Creator Update has IE11. But Edge is default.
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Old November 28th 17, 04:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 13:06:45 -0600, Mathedman
wrote:


Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one.



The time to find out about things like that is *before* you buy it,
not after.


I always recommend against all-in-one computers. Nothing lasts
forever. If one part dies, you lose the whole thing.




It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !



You probably need drivers for what you plug in.



Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which




What edition?



doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)




Do a search for it.



So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!



It does. It also has Edge. Do searches for them.



So what to do with the thing?

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Old November 28th 17, 04:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 14:37:49 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:



I may be wrong but I was sure that Internet Explorer 11 came with
Windows 10, Unless the newer version only comes with Edge.



Windows 10 comes with both--IE11 and Edge. And you can use almost any
of the third-party choices available; as far as I'm concerned, they
are almost all better than either IE11 or Edge. My personal favorite
is FireFox.
 




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