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  #46  
Old November 29th 17, 01:03 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:21:47 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| Do we think this guy (or gal) is a troll, guys and gals?
|

I think he's older, doesn't focus well, generally really
does want to understand and solve problems, but tends
to get impatient and blame others when he can't follow
the explanations.

In this case, though, I suspect he really just wants
to complain about his wife. He's already said that she's
giving him no say in the matter, so there's no issue to
solve.


Such behaviour might be symptomatic with ageing. Let's not get too
abusive here, people, support guys are supposed to empathise with
users, not blame them for their problems.
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  #47  
Old November 29th 17, 01:19 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mathedman" wrote in message
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Yes I'm sure! I searched it over. I would return it if there was a
suitable substitute. My wifes problem ---she only wants an "all in one".
As far as I can find out, only Dell makes one --- this one.


You didn't look real hard, did you?
https://www.newegg.com/All-in-One-Co...tegory/ID-3309


  #48  
Old November 29th 17, 03:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mark Lloyd" wrote

| Newer computers usually don't come with DVD drives, but you can add one.

The first all-in-one I found had one. I certainly
wouldn't buy a machine without one. But I also
wouldn't buy an all-in-one.

| If no other way, there's DVD drives that connect with USB.
|

Sounds like the fiasco when Lord Jobs announced
that Mac users had no further use for floppies and
removed the drives from Macs. Many Mac users, as
usual, stridently supported his decision. Lord Jobs
knows best. Then they went to Microcenter and
bought a USB version for $100.

If you have to buy an external DVD drive that would
be part of the cost of the computer. Not an economical
solution.

At the time Jobs nixed floppies, a magazine article
noted that it would have cost only $7.50 more per
$2,000-ish Mac to include a floppy drive. But Jobs
wanted slick.
Windows computers tended to have floppy IDE plugs
in the motherboards for many years after that, even
when they stopped shipping with floppy drives. I
put old drives into a number of computers.

A good DVD drive these days doesn't cost much more
that floppy drives did then. I think I paid about $20 for
a Samsung when I built my last computer, two years
ago. Recently I was fixing a Win8 laptop for someone.
It needed a new hard disk. I downloaded a Win8 ISO
from MS and put it onto a DVD. About 30 cents cost.
To do that with a USB stick would have cost maybe
$7-$10 and a trip to the store (so that I could give the
stick to the owner) and I don't even know for certain
that I could have booted to the USB stick.

All of which is to say that it seems very premature to
me to start leaving out DVD drives, or to buy computers
without them.


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Old November 29th 17, 03:39 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Op 27/11/2017 om 20:06 schreef Mathedman:
*Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !
* Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
* So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
*So what to do with the thing?


There is something very wrong in this discussion. And I'm afraid I know
what...


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Old November 29th 17, 03:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mayayana wrote:


If you have to buy an external DVD drive that would
be part of the cost of the computer. Not an economical
solution.


But when you buy USB peripherals, they can be
shared around the computer room. So buying one
is enough for the whole house.

When the CDRW in my current computer case was
declared "obsolete", I removed it and didn't replace
it. The "floater" USB DVDRW has taken its place,
and most of the time, isn't plugged in.

There are a few pieces of software that are *adamant*
that the optical drive appear (magically) on an
IDE cable. If you ever have to deal with that
kind of hard-coded software, you're screwed :-)
That's one situation where the floater isn't
good enough.

Paul
  #51  
Old November 29th 17, 03:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Paul" wrote
| When the CDRW in my current computer case was
| declared "obsolete", I removed it and didn't replace
| it. The "floater" USB DVDRW has taken its place,
| and most of the time, isn't plugged in.
|

If it works for you... I use the DVD drive often
enough that I don't want to go looking for a shared
drive, much less pay a lot of extra money for something
I shouldn't need. If it had been me I would have just
added an internal DVD drive, for less money. CDR-only
has not been common for many, many years now.
I have old DVD drive spares around.

| There are a few pieces of software that are *adamant*
| that the optical drive appear (magically) on an
| IDE cable. If you ever have to deal with that
| kind of hard-coded software, you're screwed :-)

I've never run into anything like that. Maybe it's
because I configure the BIOS for backward
compatibility. I did find, with my recent foray into
UEFI, that *many* DVDs won't boot from UEFI
mode. But I would guess putting those onto USB
sticks probably wouldn't work any better.


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Old November 29th 17, 04:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 11/29/2017 8:39 AM, Carpe Diem wrote:
Op 27/11/2017 om 20:06 schreef Mathedman:
**Dell computer with no input capability!
My wife just bought a New Dell "all in one" computer.
But the thing is bizarre. It has no DVD drive,
nor place to install one. It has one USB port ---
but the computer does not recognize anything plugged
into the USB slot !
** Further more, it has Windows 10 installed which
doesn't have "Control Panel (at least none I could find)
** So how do we do anything? We can access internet sites
It doesn't even have Internet Explorer!
**So what to do with the thing?


There is something very wrong in this discussion. And I'm afraid I know
what...



In one of his previous posts the OP wrote

" This is the one I have,a Dell, newly bought,
to replace an *identical* one which died."

So if this were true he would already Know that it was unusable. so his
story does not add up.

Rene


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Old November 29th 17, 05:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:48:33 -0500, Paul wrote:

When the CDRW in my current computer case was
declared "obsolete", I removed it and didn't replace
it. The "floater" USB DVDRW has taken its place,
and most of the time, isn't plugged in.


I haven't needed an optical drive in at least 4-5 years, whether it's
CD, DVD, or BR. I currently have a laptop with an optical drive, but
only because the laptop has 2 drive bays for hard drives so I didn't
have to scavenge an optical drive to make room. Two other laptops and a
desktop haven't had optical drives since before I moved, so maybe since
2010 or so.

I long ago placed optical drives in the obsolete category, but then
again, I removed all of my floppy drives back in the 90's while others
continued to use them well into the 2000's.

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Old November 29th 17, 06:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 11/28/2017 09:52 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 11/28/2017 9:12 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:

[snip]

There are literally dozens of All in one machines by

ACER
ASUS
HP
LENOVA


Is that like Lenovo?


Yep, It sounded better the way I spelled it.* :-)


OK. I also often think of Windows as windoes. I like deer.

By the way did you notice he is not even in the proper news group! He
said in his first post that the all in one had windows 10, And he is in
the windows 7 news group.
Pretty badly confused cowboy methinks.


Maybe he really likes Windows 7 better. I do. It may be possible to
install it on that machine, but do something about that defective USB
port first.

Rene


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Old November 29th 17, 06:10 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 11/29/2017 08:18 AM, Mayayana wrote:

[snip]

Windows computers tended to have floppy IDE


Floppy drives are not IDE. Perhaps there's an invisible "and" between those.

plugs
in the motherboards for many years after that, even
when they stopped shipping with floppy drives. I
put old drives into a number of computers.


My newest desktop computer has no floppy connector, but it does have
RS232 (serial) and parallel port connectors on the motherboard.

[snip]

All of which is to say that it seems very premature to
me to start leaving out DVD drives, or to buy computers
without them.


I have a small USB optical drive that's easy to connect to any PC if I
need it (which is very seldom).

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Old November 29th 17, 07:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 10:14:34 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


I haven't needed an optical drive in at least 4-5 years, whether it's
CD, DVD, or BR. I currently have a laptop with an optical drive, but
only because the laptop has 2 drive bays for hard drives so I didn't
have to scavenge an optical drive to make room. Two other laptops and a
desktop haven't had optical drives since before I moved, so maybe since
2010 or so.

I long ago placed optical drives in the obsolete category, but then



I have a fair number of things that I keep on optical disks and every
now and then, I buy a program that installs from a CD or DVD. I don't
use my drive often, but I do use it occasionally, so I wouldn't want
to be without one.




again, I removed all of my floppy drives back in the 90's while others
continued to use them well into the 2000's.



When I had my previous computer built. about 8 years ago, I insisted
on its having a floppy drive (just in case). I owned the computer for
about five years and never used it once, so when I had my current
computer built, I decided against having one.
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Old November 29th 17, 09:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 29 Nov 2017, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I haven't needed an optical drive in at least 4-5 years, whether
it's CD, DVD, or BR.


I use CDs and DVDs every single day.

I long ago placed optical drives in the obsolete category, but
then again, I removed all of my floppy drives back in the 90's
while others continued to use them well into the 2000's.


I have a floppy drive in my main computer, but I haven't used it for
years. I'm currently assembling a new parts computer and it hadn't
occurred to me to install a floppy. It will have an optical
reader/writer, though.
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Old November 30th 17, 12:07 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:45:26 -0500, Nil
wrote:

On 29 Nov 2017, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I haven't needed an optical drive in at least 4-5 years, whether
it's CD, DVD, or BR.


I use CDs and DVDs every single day.


I'm sure you're not the only one, but I think you're in a declining
category of users. Very long ago, I switched to other forms of storage
for all of the things that previously called for optical discs. I've
never looked back and wished I still used any of those media formats,
just like I've never looked back and wished I still had a floppy drive
available.

I long ago placed optical drives in the obsolete category, but
then again, I removed all of my floppy drives back in the 90's
while others continued to use them well into the 2000's.


I have a floppy drive in my main computer, but I haven't used it for
years. I'm currently assembling a new parts computer and it hadn't
occurred to me to install a floppy. It will have an optical
reader/writer, though.


Yep, by all means, if you still find a use for it.

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Old November 30th 17, 12:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 11:27:58 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 10:14:34 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

I haven't needed an optical drive in at least 4-5 years, whether it's
CD, DVD, or BR. I currently have a laptop with an optical drive, but
only because the laptop has 2 drive bays for hard drives so I didn't
have to scavenge an optical drive to make room. Two other laptops and a
desktop haven't had optical drives since before I moved, so maybe since
2010 or so.

I long ago placed optical drives in the obsolete category, but then



I have a fair number of things that I keep on optical disks and every
now and then, I buy a program that installs from a CD or DVD. I don't
use my drive often, but I do use it occasionally, so I wouldn't want
to be without one.


I have a lot of DVD and CD images, so if I need to access any of those I
load it in a virtual drive, but it's been ages since I've purchased
something that came on optical media.

again, I removed all of my floppy drives back in the 90's while others
continued to use them well into the 2000's.



When I had my previous computer built. about 8 years ago, I insisted
on its having a floppy drive (just in case). I owned the computer for
about five years and never used it once, so when I had my current
computer built, I decided against having one.


See? You're right where I am! :-) I just got there first, some 15+
years ahead of you.

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Old November 30th 17, 12:17 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:11:41 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


When I had my previous computer built. about 8 years ago, I insisted
on its having a floppy drive (just in case). I owned the computer for
about five years and never used it once, so when I had my current
computer built, I decided against having one.


See? You're right where I am! :-) I just got there first, some 15+
years ahead of you.




LOL. Right you are!

But I should also confess that since floppy drives are so cheap ($15
or so), I almost got one on my new computer too.
 




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